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Nice one, Alex. Looking forward to the full review. I hope they put 128 MB RAM in it, such a powerhouse should have it.

More pictures: http://www.mrpalm.co...php?cont_id=869

About GPS: HTC (usually) uses the built-in gpsOne in the Qualcomm chipsets. It's not quite as good as SiRF Star III, but not that far behind either. Probably a little less power-hungry, though ;)

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theres no way this can be a kaiser killer, there's less Ram, no keyboard, it's usb 1.1, and it looks like it's one of those joysticks like the sp5 has when it gives out and gets "stuck".

the only better things i can see about this device is the camera flash, FM radio, and i cant tell if the processor is faster. wouldnt the kaiser's 400mhz qualcomm chip be faster than this xscale 520mhz one?

eh, i think the kaiser is still 1 step up from this.

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In the preliminary specifications a FM radio had been listed. Is this radio included now?


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So why do I think this is a Kaiser-killer? Ever since the crop of Smartphone-style Pocket PC devices from Gigabyte, I've longed for feature-packed device that I could use competently with one hand. This is it. It has almost every feature I could want, it's sexy looking, light, solid and I've only had to pull out the (full-size) stylus a few times in everyday use.

Wait, so the gist of this thing being the Kaiser-killer is that you took two strikingly similar PPCs and then decided based on your personal preference for form factor?

That's hardly an effective argument. Well, unless we can call the Kaiser the P750-killer. Someone could say, oh, "Ever since the crop of Smartphone-style Pocket PC devices from Gigabyte, I've longed for feature-packed device that I could use competently with a qwerty keyboard. The Kaiser is it. It has almost every feature I could want, it's sexy looking, light, solid and I've only had to pull out the (full-size) stylus a few times in everyday use."

Edited by Rush242, 08 October 2007 - 10:17 AM.

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Wait, so the gist of this thing being the Kaiser-killer is that you took two strikingly similar PPCs and then decided based on your personal preference for form factor?


I'm confused ;) how else is he supposed to form an opinion if its not based on his personal opinion/ pref?

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@ ALEX

In the preliminary specifications a FM radio had been listed. Can you confirm that this FM radio is supported?

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@ ALEX

In the preliminary specifications a FM radio had been listed. Can you confirm that this FM radio is supported?

Thanks,

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I cannot confirm this at present. It most like has but the software is just not part of the ROM yet.

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Nice device. I used an Asus P525 happily for 8 months without any any major problems. It was as good & in some areas better than the the HTC devices available at around the same time (most notably was the superior Broadcomm bluetooth stack that did stereo over bluetooth faultlessly & with very good sound quality).

Now is the Asus P750 a Tytn II killer, more a competitor I think. Spec wise they're on par but I'd choose it over the Tytn II anyday because
- I don't like slide out keypads of any kind
- It'll probably be thinner & smaller
- More suited to one handed use
- I actually prefer the old school joystick over a joypad

As you can see its horses for courses, one mans meat is another mans poison, dadadada....

Oh one more thing for the GPS users out there, the Sirf Star III chip is much more sensitive than the Qualcomm one used in the Tytn II. I borrowed a friends Tytyn II for a week & was running it alongside my O2 Orbit in the car & the Orbit consistently picked up more satellites that the Tytn II & generally held onto the signal more reliably.

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Everyone seems to be overlooking the forthcoming HP Ipaq 914C. Due 31st October.
  • WM6 Professional
  • 3MP auto focus camera
  • 3g/HSDPA (7.2 mbs version)
  • WIFI
  • A-GPS (with Google maps and optional HP navigation pack. Guess it takes TomTom fine also)
  • 520 mhz processor
  • Front keyboard (like Treo)
  • Blackberry style track wheel plus stylus
  • Good one handed and two handed use
  • 1840 battery (best bit imho)
  • Decent screen 320 x 240 (thank god, square treo 750 screen is a nightmare)
  • Only 16 mm thick, 146g.
What's not to like? Doesn't seem to be missing anything? ;)

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Nice device. I used an Asus P525 happily for 8 months without any any major problems. It was as good & in some areas better than the the HTC devices available at around the same time (most notably was the superior Broadcomm bluetooth stack that did stereo over bluetooth faultlessly & with very good sound quality).

Now is the Asus P750 a Tytn II killer, more a competitor I think. Spec wise they're on par but I'd choose it over the Tytn II anyday because
- I don't like slide out keypads of any kind
- It'll probably be thinner & smaller
- More suited to one handed use
- I actually prefer the old school joystick over a joypad

As you can see its horses for courses, one mans meat is another mans poison, dadadada....

Oh one more thing for the GPS users out there, the Sirf Star III chip is much more sensitive than the Qualcomm one used in the Tytn II. I borrowed a friends Tytyn II for a week & was running it alongside my O2 Orbit in the car & the Orbit consistently picked up more satellites that the Tytn II & generally held onto the signal more reliably.


Couldn't agree more ;)

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Hi Alex,

Great preview of the P750! Now that you've been using it as your primary device for a few weeks, how's the 1300 mAh battery life holding up in daily usage??

Batter life with heavy GPS usage?

Battery life with heavy HSDPA browsing?

Battery life with normal phone usage?

Battery life with wifi/bluetooh usage?

Currently I'm looking to ditch my Samsung i600 for the Asus P750 or the iPaq 910 (1840 mAh battery). A long battery life is a major consideration for me now as I'm fed up with barely making it to the end of the day with the i600 ;)

Understandably the P750 doesn't have the final ROM but if it has a decent battery life now, it can only get better with the final release right?

Thanks for the heads up!

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Wait, so the gist of this thing being the Kaiser-killer is that you took two strikingly similar PPCs and then decided based on your personal preference for form factor?

That's hardly an effective argument. Well, unless we can call the Kaiser the P750-killer. Someone could say, oh, "Ever since the crop of Smartphone-style Pocket PC devices from Gigabyte, I've longed for feature-packed device that I could use competently with a qwerty keyboard. The Kaiser is it. It has almost every feature I could want, it's sexy looking, light, solid and I've only had to pull out the (full-size) stylus a few times in everyday use."


I'm sorry my four and a half years of experience in this area aren't good enough for you...

In my experience, most people love the idea of a Pocket PC and its functionality but are put off by poor design (i.e. ugly bricks) and the fact that most cannot be used with one hand competently. The P750 is one of the few devices that has taken the opposite approach and actually managed to pull it off. The same, unfortunately, cannot be said of the Kaiser. Oh and for what it's worth, your re-hash of my sentence make absolutely no sense. Do some research ;)

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I'm sorry my four and a half years of experience in this area aren't good enough for you...

In my experience, most people love the idea of a Pocket PC and its functionality but are put off by poor design (i.e. ugly bricks) and the fact that most cannot be used with one hand competently. The P750 is one of the few devices that has taken the opposite approach and actually managed to pull it off. The same, unfortunately, cannot be said of the Kaiser. Oh and for what it's worth, your re-hash of my sentence make absolutely no sense. Do some research ;)


Amen, brother! The P750 is indeed what you describe, one-handed ease of use, with PPC flexibility. I almost went for an HTC s730, but I'm holding out now for a P750.

Edited by richair, 08 October 2007 - 03:06 PM.

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Hi Alex,

Great preview of the P750! Now that you've been using it as your primary device for a few weeks, how's the 1300 mAh battery life holding up in daily usage??

Batter life with heavy GPS usage?

Battery life with heavy HSDPA browsing?

Battery life with normal phone usage?

Battery life with wifi/bluetooh usage?

Currently I'm looking to ditch my Samsung i600 for the Asus P750 or the iPaq 910 (1840 mAh battery). A long battery life is a major consideration for me now as I'm fed up with barely making it to the end of the day with the i600 ;)

Understandably the P750 doesn't have the final ROM but if it has a decent battery life now, it can only get better with the final release right?

Thanks for the heads up!


Unfortunately I got the device only (no car holder), so no heavy GPS usage :wub: With average use it'll last a few days and about one day with heavy hsdpa/wifi usage. I'll do some proper testing when I get the retail unit :D

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Unfortunately I got the device only (no car holder), so no heavy GPS usage ;) With average use it'll last a few days and about one day with heavy hsdpa/wifi usage. I'll do some proper testing when I get the retail unit :wub:



Wow, real time feedback...good work! Sounds promising the P750 goes a few days being a pocket pc device. Heavy hsdpa/wifi usage and lasting a day is already way better than the i600.

Btw, can you confirm if it's quadband gsm /triband hsdpa? Thanks.

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Wow, real time feedback...good work! Sounds promising the P750 goes a few days being a pocket pc device. Heavy hsdpa/wifi usage and lasting a day is already way better than the i600.

Btw, can you confirm if it's quadband gsm /triband hsdpa? Thanks.


At the moment, no but I expect it will be.

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Hello,
I have some questions (hopefully they aren't too silly...):

What size is the display? Is it a 2,6" or a 2,8"?
What can you say about Music quality? Can the Mediaplayer handle AAC files? (I plan to use my files I recently bought from iTunes plus store)
How about the headphone connector? Do I need a special adapter or can I use a normal 2,5 to 3,5 adapter?
Is this device small enough to put it in my jeans pocket?

Thanks!


P.S. As you can see I'm not a native speaker, but I hope you can understand my questions.

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Hello,
I have some questions (hopefully they aren't too silly...):

What size is the display? Is it a 2,6" or a 2,8"?
What can you say about Music quality? Can the Mediaplayer handle AAC files? (I plan to use my files I recently bought from iTunes plus store)
How about the headphone connector? Do I need a special adapter or can I use a normal 2,5 to 3,5 adapter?
Is this device small enough to put it in my jeans pocket?

Thanks!
P.S. As you can see I'm not a native speaker, but I hope you can understand my questions.


Oh yeah another reason I'd get this over the Tytn II, Its got a separate headphone socket. Display size should be 2.8"

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What size is the display? Is it a 2,6" or a 2,8"?


2.6" if my measurements are correct

What can you say about Music quality? Can the Mediaplayer handle AAC files? (I plan to use my files I recently bought from iTunes plus store)


Not something i've really looked in to. Will do so in the full review ;)

How about the headphone connector? Do I need a special adapter or can I use a normal 2,5 to 3,5 adapter?


It has a standard 2.5mm socket

Is this device small enough to put it in my jeans pocket?


Yep! :wub:

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I think that in most minds this will be a far, far cry from a "Kaiser Killer". Between the lack of a keyboard and no touch screen the phone becomes effectively worthless to a great majority of WM users. On top of that the key pad seems reminiscent of the Nokia N73, my last phone, (which had the the most difficult keypad to do anything on, which is especially sad since I have very thin fingers). At best its features tie that of the kaiser (that is if they upgrade the RAM), and that isn't even really true due to the lack of a qwerty keyboard, and touchscreen, which I mentioned before. Coupled with the fact that there is no guarantee that this will be a world ready (quad-band and tri-band) phone, I think this has no chance of outselling the kaiser unless its significantly cheaper, which by your estimates seems as though it isn't going to happen.

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