Guest fusi Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 yo i originally bought a an unbranded kaiser back at the end of September ish (iirc) and it was great - i loved the cleanliness of not having operator crap strewn all over it - unfortunately that unit was duff and managed to get my money back (literally a few days ago - bloody long wait) - so anyway, the vario iii is out now and its on the network i wanna go on (for webnwalk) and its like 200+ quid cheaper on contract... HOWEVER! the vario iii is obviously customised by the operator - i was wondering how extensive is this customisation and how easily can every little bit of it be reversed/restored/uncorrupted? the actual casing of the vario iii is this nasty looking (from what videos ive seen) silver shite that im really not keen on (if i could get replacement casing i would!) but i feel it might be worth 200+ quid to just put up with it (im sure itll grow on me) so whaddaya reckon? expensive nice clean unbranded htc goodness or cheap fiddled-with customised nonsense? cheers fusi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Transform Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 i have a vario 3 and i must say i like the silver casing much more. if you arent happy with the phone customisation you can always flash it to the htc version but again, i am happy with the t-mobile rom. and from what i have read, it seems that there is only really msn messenger missing which is downloadable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest whatmeworry Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 I have the VIII too and am very happy with it - the software branding is unobtrusive (and easy to remove) and having web and walk (plus in my case) really brings the device to life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mandt Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 As the others here have already said, the Vario III ROM is very subtly customised, visit the debrander thread pinned to the top of this Forum to remove the pink icons. the only extra app installed is F-Secure anti-virus, which can be removed in 'Remove Programs' The only apps missing are Messenger and WorldCard Mobile I think, easily found on the web if you need them. Outwardly the T-Mobile badges on the casing are easily removed, I used a copper coin on mine >LINK<, the only thing remaining will be the W'n'W logo on the internet button. Overall I am very happy with my Vario III, and have never wished I had bought The TyTn II instead :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fusi Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 (edited) cheers for your input doods! yea i wanna get flext20 + webnwalk plus - cant see an option on the webshite for it though :s i called them up and they said just get the flext20 and bolt on webnwalk afterwards - whacks up the price of the handset by about 60 quid iirc but hmmm - 60 quid or an extra 5-6 quid a month for the flext25 :s anyway looks like im gonna go for the vario iii and maybe buy an eeeeeeeeeeeepc with the leftovers! ;D edit: copper coin! ouch! sounds precariously and potentially hazardous! i am however now reading your link with diligence! another edit: oooh that looks nice good job i shall be doing that me thinks - will it void warranty? :( Edited November 26, 2007 by fusi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mandt Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 (edited) Oh yeah! always stick web n walk on afterwards, and not when you sign up. If you include it in your sign up contract you're tied into it for the length of the contract (I think), put it on afterwards and you can take it off anytime :( Edited November 26, 2007 by mandt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fusi Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 thanks for the advice! gonna order now! woot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andrewkeith5 Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 so if i go and buy a vario 3 from a store you're saying I should just get the normal flext 20 and then phone customer services to activate web 'n' walk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mandt Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Yeah it's what I did, I'm positive you're tied into W n W for the contract length if you put it on as part of the initial sign-up. The only problem with that is that it's around £200 for the handset on Flext 20 :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fusi Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 (edited) i called em up and they told me exactly the same as what you said mandt - that its better to 'bolt-on' w`n`w as that wy your not tied into it over the whole contract period - quite nice tbh - though the girl i was speaking to was rather nice edit: 200 quid is a lot cheaper than 450 quid!!! another edit: just placed my order :( Edited November 27, 2007 by fusi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mandt Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Phew! it's nice to be right :( just placed my order :D Nice one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andrewkeith5 Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 i won't be buying anything till february at least, so i'm hoping the price will have fallen a bit by then and i'll be able to talk the nice guy in the t-mobile shop down, but thanks for the advice! i'll definately go with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fusi Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 (edited) woooh my vario 3 came today! (well yesterday, but it was at the post depot) and im very happy with it! the silver finish looks a lot better in real life than it does in pictures, and i also quite like the look and feel of the front buttons too - better than the stock ones imo - flatter and easier to press - ihave yet to test the wifi and bluetooth together - this is the reason my first kaiser went back as i couldnt get the two to work at the same time at all! D: all in all though very pleased - t-mobile dont seem to have screwed around with the rom too much (although allthe icons are pink!) which is nice - still in the process of teting everything to make sure it all works but yea! happy chappy! edit: also im very impressed by the customer service of t-mobile - top notch! Edited November 30, 2007 by fusi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dperren Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 (edited) As for the pink icons, they can easily be removed: http://www.modaco.com/content/HTC-Kaiser-K...-de-Brand-0-3-/ I'm going to be acquiring a T-Mobile tytnii soon, so it's good to hear that they haven't cocked about with it too much. One thing I was wonder though: The contract I'll be getting it on very probably won't have a data allowance - and I'm very unlikely to want to be able to get on the internet except through wifi. Is there any way to turn off all the data functionality to prevent accidentally running up charges (and presumably saving battery life as well?). Thanks, Edited November 30, 2007 by dperren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mandt Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 MoDaCo NoData will disable your connections: http://www.modaco.com/content/Pocket-PC-So...w-FREE-Utility/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fusi Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 (edited) cool cheers dperren as for the bluetooth and wifi i _still_ cant get them to co-exist! argh!!!?!1111 is this a rom issue, hardware issue or is it just a generally bad idea to use both at the same time :( edit: btw one thing that does peev me is that tmobile have replaced the battery icon with their own - i cant remember what the stock one locked like but i remember it having beter functionality - though i might be thinking of batti - icant remember! Edited November 30, 2007 by fusi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RapsKaiser Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 (edited) Is it possible to change the T-Mobile SIM icon for a standard one? (The one that appears in the 'Programs' group every time you soft-reset) Edited January 16, 2008 by RapsKaiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shootydogthing Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 I think that's just an issue with all of them, not sure. And I don't think they've changed that. Just use batti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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