Guest Paul (MVP) Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 You may have heard that there are 1 or 2 people who are unhappy with their HTC Kaisers, and it looks like they now have a similarly specced alternative... the Samsung i780. A first European Pocket PC release for Samsung (I think?), the i780 features a 320x320 screen, 3G + HSDPA, GPS and WiFi connectivity. Chuck in an innovative 'Optical Mouse' control stick (check out ), Line 2 support, a QWERTY thumboard, a 416MHz Marvell (formerly XScale) serious processor and 256MB ROM / 128MB RAM and we think this could be the new must-have device! Only the 2 Megapixel camera slightly disappoints, but we can forgive the numbers if the quality is at least half decent :) Did I also mention it's SMALL? Check out the picture below of the i780 mixing it up with it's Smartphone brother, the svelte i600 (aka Blackjack). The device is up on the Orange Business site already, pricing and exact release date (think 'any day now') are yet to be confirmed. I was kinda hoping that Samsung would finally drop their proprietary connector for the ubiquitous miniUSB, but the spec at the Orange site lists 'pop-port' connectivity. :D Got one? Getting one? Let us know! :D P [Via: CoolSmartphone, pic via CNet] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J273 Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 (edited) Im defo getting one...cant wait for this to be released...Looks perfect. Im just hopeing i can use the internal GPS with my tomtom.....Ive heard its locked the same way as with the BJ2. Think im going to wait for the sim free model estimated release on the 14th. Edited January 30, 2008 by J273 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J273 Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 (edited) Check these reviews out.... http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/sa...g-i780-en.shtml http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/sa...i780-2-en.shtml Edited January 30, 2008 by J273 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Good reviews, and performance seems great! My concerns... - Does GPS work? - Is the directional pad usable? - Why oh why the stupid proprietary connector! :) P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J273 Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Hmm yeah....they say thats a pre-release model though. Theres a few good vids on the unwired.....http://www.theunwired.net/?query=i780&amount=0&blogid=1 They've had GPS working with google maps..........he's also mentiond he's tried igo and it worked well....apart from the uncommon screen res. Another thing is battery life 1000mah ...i hope its better than the BJ2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cre8or Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 PAUL(MVP) the processor is the Marvell PXA a 624 MHz.... Not the 410 Mhz .... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Metoo Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 PAUL(MVP) the processor is the Marvell PXA a 624 MHz.... Not the 410 Mhz .... :) Yikes, how many batteries are they going to ship with this one? The battery life on the i600 was bad enough (in fact, on all Samsung phones I've ever known) But now they're stuffing in a third more display pixels, a faster CPU, double the RAM, and GPS, but 10% less battery? How are you going to get through a working day on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J273 Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 (edited) My only samsung phone was a samsung s100 years ago....So is samsung's battery life that bad? whats it down to just the 1000mah battery used? Could it be resolved with say a 3rd party battery? Im realy looking forward to this phone but if samsungs device battery life is that bad.....May have to give it a miss. Edited January 30, 2008 by J273 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Metoo Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 (edited) My only samsung phone was a samsung s100 years ago....So is samsung's battery life that bad? whats it down to just the 1000mah battery used? Could it be resolved with say a 3rd party battery? Im realy looking forward to this phone but if samsungs device battery life is that bad.....May have to give it a miss. Well there's a reason they're the only brand to bundle most of their phones with 2 batteries. If the BJ's anything to go by, form over function, unless you're a very light user. And another thing... After all the years ex-Palm users have been waiting for Microsoft to get their finger out and up screen resolutions, it's good to see how they've managed to achieve the full 240x240 experience with a 320x320 screen. Good old numpty Microsoft. What a waste. Edited January 30, 2008 by Metoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Monolithix Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 That is one sexy device, wish O did a decent data tarrif! Also, Line 2 on a PPC? A first surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nickcornaglia Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Square screens on a PPC always seem like a waste to me. Especially on the Today screen. Also...wasnt the Blackjack the i607? Or was the i600 a Blackjack too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Monolithix Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 The Blackjack in the US was the i607, the wifi-enabled i600 was released here in Europe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 PAUL(MVP) the processor is the Marvell PXA a 624 MHz.... Not the 410 Mhz .... :) Well, i've read it was gonna be 624MHz but is actually shipping clocked at 410MHz... P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alsicole Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 I'm still loving my i600, but I think him indoors will be in the market for one of these. He's got a Treo 750 at the moment, but would love the higher-res screen and built-in wi-fi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr Who Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Do Tmob do Samsung models? Any more news on the rumoured i900? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ovie Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 I think this will most probably be my next upgrade. This propietary jack then, are adapters available for it so I can use my own earphones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Monolithix Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Not found anything on a quick google. Hopefully its a standard Samsung port though so adapters for other models will work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Confucious Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 GPS - eats battery HSDPA - eats battery but not as much as WiFi No idea what the battery life is likebut with those 3 you need a lot of reserve. Personally I'm not a fan of this form factor but a nice spec phone and nice to see some competition for HTC available on contract in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Monolithix Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Yep, all true of any device. Same as your Athena, no? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Confucious Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Yep, all true of any device. Same as your Athena, no? :) Exactly - I'm lucky to get a days usage out of my Athena but can get through a full battery in 2 hours! My point was that if people were worried about the battery usage on a device without these features then it won't be any better with them. All those features are great but do come at a cost in terms of battery life. I'd rather have the features, just don't expect to go days without charging! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Monolithix Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Yep exactly :) If you want a decent standby then turn off UMTS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Metoo Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Yep exactly :) If you want a decent standby then turn off UMTS! But even that might not be enough. Nobody's explained to me yet how they expect to do all this (hi-res display, HSDPA, 128MB RAM, GPS, WiFi) on 10% less battery than the BJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Monolithix Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Well clearly you aren't going to be using all of them at the same time, but yes, 3G WinMo devices leave something to be desired in the standby time area :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ovie Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 I don't really use the 3G or GPS (yet..probably will use the latter when I get round to buying a car!) so battery life isn't really much of an issue for me, I s'pose I'd get an in-car charger anyway for GPS and I charge every night too. Reason why I like this is because I was looking for something with Kaiser-like specs (incl. QWERTY keyboard), but a lot smaller, I think this is probably as close as I can get! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Metoo Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Well clearly you aren't going to be using all of them at the same time, but yes, 3G WinMo devices leave something to be desired in the standby time area :/ You kind of miss my point - I'm talking about Samsungs not WM devices in general. All I want is a device that will get through a busy day without a charge. There are plenty of WM devices that will do this (especially if you turn off 3G). Samsungs are not one of them because they design their pphones for form (a.k.a. "style") over function by making them so thin. Samsungs have the worst reputation of all, which is why they're the only marque to supply 2 batteries as standard. Standby is only one part of the picture - this is supposed to be a serious business tool not a toy, but what's the point of paying all that money for something you daren't use for fear of flattening the battery? I'm intrigued how Samsung improving matters by putting more and more power sapping functions in the phone, whilst at the same time providing a smaller battery than previous models? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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