Guest nevawlkalone Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 I have tmobile web n walk with my kaiser however im one of these that after using data will terminate the connection after using it. Mainly to save battery life but also to keep data usage down but this defeats the idea of having push email set up. What i want to know is, if the kaiser isnt downloading anything from the net but the connection is active, will it actually transfer any data? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jimbouk Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 1) With web-n-walk you dont need to keep usage down (unless you are knocking on the fair usage policy limits - which is very unlikely) 2) With direct push your device basically sends 3kp every 15 mins or so (ok so its actually a little more complicated than that but thats basically it) 3) Other than the direct push heartbeat, having data connected doesnt send of receive any data (unless you have a web browser open with a page that auto refreshes or similar). So if direct push is off, then no data is flowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nevawlkalone Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 cool, All i gota do is find a decent lasting battery now lol M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotphil Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 cool, All i gota do is find a decent lasting battery now lol M If you do a quick search on here, there's a few threads where extra capacity batteries are mentioned/links to sellers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Neil5459 Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 cool, All i gota do is find a decent lasting battery now lol M Have you actually done a comparison of battery use with data always on, and with it only one when you switch it on? I'd would expect there to be very little difference. If battery life is a major concern, it's much more effective to turn off 3G and let the phone use GSM only, which is perfectly adequate for emal and light browsing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nevawlkalone Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 If you do a quick search on here, there's a few threads where extra capacity batteries are mentioned/links to sellers. Cheers for this, already been looking at a few threads. Have you actually done a comparison of battery use with data always on, and with it only one when you switch it on? I'd would expect there to be very little difference. If battery life is a major concern, it's much more effective to turn off 3G and let the phone use GSM only, which is perfectly adequate for emal and light browsing. No i havent done a full test/comparison but i have noticed depleted battery life when using data for long periods of time (spend a lot of time on messenger on the traing to and from work.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jimbouk Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Cheers for this, already been looking at a few threads. No i havent done a full test/comparison but i have noticed depleted battery life when using data for long periods of time (spend a lot of time on messenger on the traing to and from work.) Well thats different. That is using data - and on a 3g/H connection that will suck your battery dry very quickly - say three hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Subliminal Aura Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Well thats different. That is using data - and on a 3g/H connection that will suck your battery dry very quickly - say three hours? Probably about right... Streaming music or youtube for a solid hour reduces my battery by 40% from full charge. IE Solid HSDPA with bluetooth A2DP running. Not sure if that figure is linear ie with my usage it should mean I have 2.5 hours of capacity but the reality is probably 2hours. We warned though - The Kaiser does heat up a fair bit under such conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Webreaper Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 You're also forgetting that messenger on the train uses power because the screen's on. Push mail doesn't light up the screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Confucious Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 HSDPA can kill my battery (Athena not Kaiser) in about 2.5 hours. Running over 2.5G will vastly impove bayttery life but the other thing that drains the battery is the constant searching for new masts when used on the train. Turning off 3G but leaving the data connection on should be fine - messenger should be OK over 2.5G as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Subliminal Aura Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 You're also forgetting that messenger on the train uses power because the screen's on. Push mail doesn't light up the screen. IM+ for the win ? Just tried it over lunchtime and it works great running in the background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nevawlkalone Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Well thats different. That is using data - and on a 3g/H connection that will suck your battery dry very quickly - say three hours? That is what i am saying, i havent looked at having the connection on permanently, i have only noticed depletion during that usage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Confucious Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 That is what i am saying, i havent looked at having the connection on permanently, i have only noticed depletion during that usage. If you don't need 3G speed select 2.5G only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nevawlkalone Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 You're also forgetting that messenger on the train uses power because the screen's on. Push mail doesn't light up the screen. true, clocked that when using my old iPAQ so dropped the screen brightness, weirdly enough it made a vast difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nevawlkalone Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 If you don't need 3G speed select 2.5G only. hehe i dont need it but damn i want it lol...main reason i got the phone...old cliche, cant have your cake and eat it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Techy Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 (edited) My TyTn II is allways online for the lame fact that it rings and recives e-mails every 30 odd seconds, my battery lasts a good 43 hours running all the time while being on MSN, Push E-Mail on, the odd web browse and occasional video call. Mine came standard and didnt buy a new one. That's all WITHOUT my frequent injection on 4:4 pop-punk music :) Edited February 12, 2008 by Techy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Neil5459 Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 For IM and email use, you really won't notice much difference between GPRS and 3G. 3G/HSDPA only really becomes noticable when you are browsing large, graphic heavy websites, or downloading/streaming large files. The difference in battery usage however, is marked. If you have the 10 button Comm Manager, you can quickly switch 3G on/off as needed/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WearTheFoxHat Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Mine lasts about a day ... but I tend to use wifi and gps a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nevawlkalone Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 For IM and email use, you really won't notice much difference between GPRS and 3G. 3G/HSDPA only really becomes noticable when you are browsing large, graphic heavy websites, or downloading/streaming large files. The difference in battery usage however, is marked. If you have the 10 button Comm Manager, you can quickly switch 3G on/off as needed/ 10 button comm manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nevawlkalone Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Mine lasts about a day ... but I tend to use wifi and gps a lot! Me 3 except im using 3G and win media alot. Perhaps GPS if im feelin fruity! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Neil5459 Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 10 button comm manager? There is a thread about it on another site Here. You would need to register to download the file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nevawlkalone Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 There is a thread about it on another site Here. You would need to register to download the file. *swerve ball* cant install it as it doesnt have sufficeient permisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nevawlkalone Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 (edited) weird, done it now....had to soft reset me dog n bone before it would do it....wtf Edited February 13, 2008 by nevawlkalone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest crazyc Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 weird, done it now....had to soft reset me dog n bone before it would do it....wtf Comm manager tends to run in the background - won't do the change unless it is closed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nevawlkalone Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 (edited) Comm manager tends to run in the background - won't do the change unless it is closed... No, the installation itself failed even though i terminated the process etc...ah well all works now so... :) Edited February 13, 2008 by nevawlkalone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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