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[PaulOBrien]

Well they don't come much better than this... i'm excited to say that I have in my possesion a retail build and packaged HTC Shift, which I have unboxed for your pleasure and i'm ready to answer any tricky questions you can fire at me

For those who don't know, the Shift is HTC's first foray into the UMPC (UltraMobile PC) market, and has a very unique selling point with it's 'SnapVue' Windows Mobile based secondary interface!

The full product deets are on the HTC site and i've included the tech specs below, but I know there are a TON of questions people want to ask that aren't answered in the official pages... so ask away!

Official Specs:

• Intel® Processor A110, 800MHz
  
• Windows Vista® Business
  
• 1GB DDR2 microDIMM RAM
  
• 1.8-inch 40 GB hard disk with G-Sensor shock protection
  
• 207 mm (L) x 129 mm (W) x 25 mm (T)
  
• 800g with battery
  
• 7-inch, 800 x 480 TFT-LCD display with adjustable screen angle and touch-sensitive screen
  
• HSDPA/UMTS: Tri-band 850, 1900, 2100 MHz
  
• HSDPA: Up to 3.6Mbps for download and 384kbps for upload UMTS: Up to 384kbps for download and upload
  
• GSM/GPRS/EDGE: Quad-band 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz (The device will operate on frequencies available from the cellular network)
  
• Slide-out QWERTY keyboard
  
• Left/right mouse buttons and microPad
  
• Bluetooth® 2.0, Wi-Fi® (IEEE 802.11 b/g)
  
• 1 USB 2.0, VGA out, and 3.5mm stereo audio out with microphone
  
• 1.8/3V USIM/SIM card slot
  
• SDIO slot with hotswap functionality
  
• Fingerprint sensor
  
• Color CMOS VGA camera for videoconferencing
  
• Built-in microphone and dual speakers
  
• 2700 mAh rechargeable Lithium-ion polymer battery
  
• Windows Vista® operating time: Up to 2 hours
  
• SnapVUE™ standby time (push e-mail enabled): Up to 53 hours
  
• SnapVUE™ standby time (push e-mail disabled): Up to 10 days
  

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[adamzeit]

Congrats Paul....and hello from New York!  A few quick questions for you to start with:

1)  In the video, it appears that the Shift is a bit slow....a fairly long delay from when you launched applications to when they finally came up and were usable.  Is it a bit sluggish at 800Mhz?  Or was it just me?

2)  I noticed you performing all of your interactions on the Touch Screen with the Stylus.  I am hoping to be able to use this without the stylus...all with my fingers.  Pointing, tapping, swiping, etc.  So, two questions relating to this a) do you think this will work well as a finger-only touch device, and does it have TouchFlo 2.0 or some sort of multi-touch on it?

3)  From a typing stand-point, how exactly are you doing this?  Just like on a regular keyboard?  Are you thumbing it?  Two-fingers?  What seems to be the best way to achieve accurate, fast typing?

Thanks in advance....as always, you guys are terrific.

Best,
Adam

[mikeeey]

Paul, can you please take a picture of you talking on this phone. showing it up to your head, lol. (im actually half serious, how big is that?)

[thelondonthing]

mikeeey, on Mar 1 2008, 01:14, said:

Paul, can you please take a picture of you talking on this phone. showing it up to your head, lol. (im actually half serious, how big is that?)

It's not been designed as a phone - it's been designed as a UMPC.  Given that it's been designed as a UMPC, how can you say it's big?

Paul, or other members, will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the cellular capabilities of this device are data-based rather than voice-based.  

There are a great many phones out there to satisfy all kinds of requirements, but this really isn't a phone - and the fact that it runs Windows Vista (and a very cut-down version of Windows Mobile that isn't even marketed under that brand in this device (they call it SnapVUE rather than Windows Mobile) makes it pretty clear that it's not a phone.

[squilla]

Wow thanks for the video Paul, I have been avidly waiting for this video as you know!

I love the finger print recognition, can it be used as finger launch too, to launch applications?

Am I right in thinking it doesnt have GPS?

How does the size compare to the Ameo? The keyboard looks fab!

Your homescreen said T-Mobile, please corrent me if im wrong but I thought this was only coming out for Orange business customers, I am sure you probably got it from Expansys so do you know if it will be available at some point on T-Mobile? (God I hope so!)

While watching the video there were a million questions I wanted to ask but have completly forgotten now since I am so bedazzled by the device so I will ask them later when I remember! Or bombard you on Palringo at some point.

Edited to ask... With it being vista, does it sync ok with XP, does it still sync via Activesync? If not how?

Edited by squilla, 01 March 2008 - 10:41 AM.

[gerryr]

thelondonthing, on Mar 1 2008, 03:06, said:

Paul, or other members, will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the cellular capabilities of this device are data-based rather than voice-based.

Correct, it doesn't have cellular phone capabilities although you could of course add skype etc

Edited by gerryr, 01 March 2008 - 11:36 AM.

[Monolithix]

I can't help not getting excited about the Shift every time i see it, it's just a real shame about the price though

[spacerace]

Monolithix, on Mar 1 2008, 11:25, said:

I can't help not getting excited about the Shift every time i see it, it's just a real shame about the price though

I think the battery is the problem for me. I like the look of this but if I ended up using it mostly in 'WM' mode to preserve battery I think I'd be better off with something like the Redfly which will hopefully be about half the price too.

Edited by spacerace, 01 March 2008 - 11:53 AM.

[Syphon Filter]

Vista must be dog slow on that sucker surely?

[GuyAdams]

Just like to say that your unboxing video was fantastic Paul.

Very informative but not too long, keep up the great work.

Thanks

[Pawel062]

hmmm... paul contact me if u like to have full wm6 on their. its all there just hidden.... check xda's shift forum to see what im talking about. its Pawel062 from xda btw.

[Tech]

Paul - its been a while!

blimey! Have we evolved that much already in the space of 2 years? WOOHAAAA!!!! Thats bloody fantastic.....

shame about the size though. I mean how on earth would you really make a "mobile" call? Really its a laptop PC at the end of the day isnt it?

[PaulOBrien]

1) It doesn't really seem sluggish. It's not super fast like my Core Duo 2 machine, but it's perfectly usable!

2) I use my finger more actually. It doesn't have TouchFlo or Multitouch.

3) I am using the keyboard for touch typing (getting used to it now) on a surface, just about thumb typing when holding, or using Vista's excellent built in handwriting recognition.

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adamzeit, on Feb 29 2008, 23:32, said:

Congrats Paul....and hello from New York!  A few quick questions for you to start with:

1)  In the video, it appears that the Shift is a bit slow....a fairly long delay from when you launched applications to when they finally came up and were usable.  Is it a bit sluggish at 800Mhz?  Or was it just me?

2)  I noticed you performing all of your interactions on the Touch Screen with the Stylus.  I am hoping to be able to use this without the stylus...all with my fingers.  Pointing, tapping, swiping, etc.  So, two questions relating to this a) do you think this will work well as a finger-only touch device, and does it have TouchFlo 2.0 or some sort of multi-touch on it?

3)  From a typing stand-point, how exactly are you doing this?  Just like on a regular keyboard?  Are you thumbing it?  Two-fingers?  What seems to be the best way to achieve accurate, fast typing?

Thanks in advance....as always, you guys are terrific.

Best,
Adam

[PaulOBrien]

Data only!

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mikeeey, on Mar 1 2008, 01:14, said:

Paul, can you please take a picture of you talking on this phone. showing it up to your head, lol. (im actually half serious, how big is that?)

[PaulOBrien]

The fingerprint reader is for logging in, and authentication for stored credentials.

No GPS (yet!)

Keyboard is FAR better than the Ameo!

I didn't get it from eXpansys, and I have no info on operator releases other than Orange!

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squilla, on Mar 1 2008, 10:33, said:

Wow thanks for the video Paul, I have been avidly waiting for this video as you know!

I love the finger print recognition, can it be used as finger launch too, to launch applications?

Am I right in thinking it doesnt have GPS?

How does the size compare to the Ameo? The keyboard looks fab!

Your homescreen said T-Mobile, please corrent me if im wrong but I thought this was only coming out for Orange business customers, I am sure you probably got it from Expansys so do you know if it will be available at some point on T-Mobile? (God I hope so!)

While watching the video there were a million questions I wanted to ask but have completly forgotten now since I am so bedazzled by the device so I will ask them later when I remember! Or bombard you on Palringo at some point.

Edited to ask... With it being vista, does it sync ok with XP, does it still sync via Activesync? If not how?

[PaulOBrien]

Battery life is more of an issue than price IMHO!

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Monolithix, on Mar 1 2008, 11:25, said:

I can't help not getting excited about the Shift every time i see it, it's just a real shame about the price though

[PaulOBrien]

The redfly is exciting too, we have a great interview with them in the next Podcast!

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spacerace, on Mar 1 2008, 11:52, said:

I think the battery is the problem for me. I like the look of this but if I ended up using it mostly in 'WM' mode to preserve battery I think I'd be better off with something like the Redfly which will hopefully be about half the price too.

[PaulOBrien]

Au contraire, it's not bad! I'll shoot some more video when I get a chance

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Syphon Filter, on Mar 1 2008, 12:12, said:

Vista must be dog slow on that sucker surely?

[spacerace]

Paul (MVP), on Mar 2 2008, 20:32, said:

The redfly is exciting too, we have a great interview with them in the next Podcast!

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awesome, look forward to it. (did they mention any release dates?)

[PaulOBrien]

March IIRC, but check for the podcast soon!

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