UPDATE: Well, it's been a long week but the firmware has finally been released!
UPDATE: Asus P750 VGA Becomes A Reality!
Started by
Alex (nedge2k)
, Mar 21 2008 08:28 PM
#1
Posted 21 March 2008 - 08:28 PM
UPDATE: Well, it's been a long week but the firmware has finally been released!
#2
Posted 21 March 2008 - 08:55 PM
Wow, that's really nice 
Although I must say that the icons do look a bit (a lot actually) small and the text seems pretty hard to read.
I'm also wandering how the performance will be when it have to power a VGA resolution instead of QVGA?
EDIT: A larger picture is attached in the forum thread: http://4pda.ru/forum...ASUSP750VGA.jpg
Although I must say that the icons do look a bit (a lot actually) small and the text seems pretty hard to read.
I'm also wandering how the performance will be when it have to power a VGA resolution instead of QVGA?
EDIT: A larger picture is attached in the forum thread: http://4pda.ru/forum...ASUSP750VGA.jpg
Edited by Amplificator, 21 March 2008 - 08:56 PM.
#3
Posted 21 March 2008 - 09:41 PM
Am I ruining a prank by suggesting this is all too close to the 1st of April?
#4
Posted 22 March 2008 - 06:21 AM
Prank or not, I'm persuaded. I want one!
Smartphone enthusiast since the Nokia N9000i; owned almost everything since
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Current Android Devices: Advent Vega, Dell Streak, HTC Desire, Samsung Galaxy S2
Current iOS Devices: iPad, iPhone 4
#5
Posted 22 March 2008 - 07:24 AM
WOW, and my new P750 is here on tuesday.....
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#6
Posted 22 March 2008 - 09:34 AM
Google translator is awesome! I can now read Russian. Sweet.
So there was some discussion about programs that were written to work with QVGA and others that would work in VGA. So does a 240 x 320 screen become a 480 x 640? How many programs are going to display properly on a screen that is essentially 4 times bigger?
How much better is it that it's the same aspect ratio versus the Xperia X1 with a 800 x 480 ratio? I would think the P750 has a big advantage in this regard.
Now, I'm really torn between the two devices. I have grown to love a slide out keyboard, and am looking for a replacement for my S710, but after owning the S710 with screen rotation, I'm personally aware of screen display issues and also lack of some support by software.
So there was some discussion about programs that were written to work with QVGA and others that would work in VGA. So does a 240 x 320 screen become a 480 x 640? How many programs are going to display properly on a screen that is essentially 4 times bigger?
How much better is it that it's the same aspect ratio versus the Xperia X1 with a 800 x 480 ratio? I would think the P750 has a big advantage in this regard.
Now, I'm really torn between the two devices. I have grown to love a slide out keyboard, and am looking for a replacement for my S710, but after owning the S710 with screen rotation, I'm personally aware of screen display issues and also lack of some support by software.
#7
Posted 22 March 2008 - 10:47 AM
The official MS line on higher-res screens is that it's used to increase the quality of the GUI displayed on screen, so the ratio's stay the same and you don't actually gain any screen real estate.
The pic above is using something like RealVGA to enable the use of absolute ratios, eg the menu and softkey bars use the same number of pixels and retain their original quality, resulting in them being smaller on the screen (same as fiddling your PC's display resolution).
From my experience of using RealVGA the majority of applications (except games perhaps) seem to cope fine. In fact it's system icons that suffer the most (the spinning logo in activesync, phone pad, etc)
The pic above is using something like RealVGA to enable the use of absolute ratios, eg the menu and softkey bars use the same number of pixels and retain their original quality, resulting in them being smaller on the screen (same as fiddling your PC's display resolution).
From my experience of using RealVGA the majority of applications (except games perhaps) seem to cope fine. In fact it's system icons that suffer the most (the spinning logo in activesync, phone pad, etc)
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#8
Posted 22 March 2008 - 09:51 PM
lol my kaiser looks quite similar to this when im using Nydot Virtual Display to make it VGA. howeveri guess there's really no way to tell unless we saw it for ourselves. maybe a video would make it easier to see?
i mean, a camera can focus and take a huge picture, so of corse it looks crisp in that picture...
i mean, a camera can focus and take a huge picture, so of corse it looks crisp in that picture...
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#9
Posted 23 March 2008 - 10:48 AM
#10
Posted 24 March 2008 - 09:59 PM
Very, very interesting. Any hints on where to look for pics taken with the P750 cam? Could still be the deal breaker for me...
Edited by spvdk, 24 March 2008 - 10:00 PM.
#11
Posted 25 March 2008 - 05:13 PM
Definitely something to look at. Hopefully this the beginning of WM phones w/ vga screens becoming more and more common.
Tired of waiting for the Tilt, Kaiser, P4550, 8925, Vario III, TyTn II.
#12
Posted 25 March 2008 - 10:20 PM
Mikeeey: clearly you have never seen a VGA device or don't have any idea how digital imagery works! The green pic below was taken of my RealVGA'd Jasjar, the black of my Nyditot VD'd Hermes, no resolution photograph is going to clear up the mess on that qVGA screen
Edit: And a side by side blown up shot to boot....
Edit: And a side by side blown up shot to boot....
Attached Files
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#13
Posted 30 March 2008 - 04:57 PM
Firmware released! See first post for link. 
#14
Posted 02 April 2008 - 08:49 PM
hey there guys
i got my asus p750 about 2 weeks ago, havent had much time to play with it so was wondering if i used this firmware does it change the whole existing setup or not? and do i need to flash my rom.
another thing though, my GPS won't work any ideas on the port settings?
cheers.
i got my asus p750 about 2 weeks ago, havent had much time to play with it so was wondering if i used this firmware does it change the whole existing setup or not? and do i need to flash my rom.
another thing though, my GPS won't work any ideas on the port settings?
cheers.
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#15
Posted 13 April 2008 - 08:03 PM
Sudhir K, on Apr 2 2008, 21:49, said:
hey there guys
i got my asus p750 about 2 weeks ago, havent had much time to play with it so was wondering if i used this firmware does it change the whole existing setup or not? and do i need to flash my rom.
another thing though, my GPS won't work any ideas on the port settings?
cheers.
i got my asus p750 about 2 weeks ago, havent had much time to play with it so was wondering if i used this firmware does it change the whole existing setup or not? and do i need to flash my rom.
another thing though, my GPS won't work any ideas on the port settings?
cheers.
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I just got this working today after looking at the 'ask Nedge' thread/page 7
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#16
Posted 13 April 2008 - 08:45 PM
COM2 on the VGA setup...
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