Guest Paul (MVP) Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 If you've been into Windows Mobile for a while, you probably remember the i-mate 'glory days'. The days when they were the most sought after Windows Mobile devices - admittedly the days when they were reselling HTC kit. Since they parted company with HTC, their devices have been lacklustre... however they are now trying to regain some momentum with their 'Ultimate' range. The latest device to arrive on my doorstep is the 'Ultimate 9502', that you see unboxed here. Priced at $899 and supplied to me by Smart Mobile Gadgets, the 9502 leaves little out of the spec sheet... • Microsoft® Windows Mobile® 6.0 Professional • 116mm(L) x 60mm(W) x 17.8mm(T) • 200g with battery pack • 400 MHz Qualcomm® MSM 7200™ • 256 MB ROM • 128 MB RAM • 2.8” VGA (640×480) Touch-screen • GSM / GPRS / EDGE Quad-band 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 • Tri-band UMTS / WCDMA, Band 1 (2100 MHz), Band 2 (1900 MHz), Band 5 (850 MHz) • HSDPA and HSUPA • Slider LCD exposes 39-key Qwerty keypad • 360° Jog wheel and OK / Back • Removable 1620mAH, Lithium ion-Polymer battery • 3.0 Megapixel auto-focus camera • LED Compensation light • VGA camera for Video Calls • WiFi 802.11 b/g • Bluetooth® 2.0 + EDR • TV + Audio out cable • MicroSD™ card slot ...the question is, is it the sum of it's parts? That's what I plan to find out! Check out the unboxing video (including a demo of the TV out functionality!), and if you have any questions, feel free to ask away :D P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest awarner (MVP) Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 How easy is the keyboard to use ie similar to the wizard or the Universal? Not a bad looking device though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest smeg36 Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Good looking device. I have a question about the TV out. I had a Toshiba E800 back in the day, and it had VGA out. However, it had a really slow frame rate, and wasn't any good for trying to watch video. How is the frame rate on this device? Can you watch videos with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 How easy is the keyboard to use ie similar to the wizard or the Universal? Not a bad looking device though. A little small, but pretty usable! P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Good looking device. I have a question about the TV out. I had a Toshiba E800 back in the day, and it had VGA out. However, it had a really slow frame rate, and wasn't any good for trying to watch video. How is the frame rate on this device? Can you watch videos with it? Hmmm, haven't tried that, i'll give it a go! Incidentally, it's WAY faster than the Kaiser I think, despite sharing the same proc and having to drive a VGA screen! P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Syphon Filter Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 (edited) Hmmm, haven't tried that, i'll give it a go! Incidentally, it's WAY faster than the Kaiser I think, despite sharing the same proc and having to drive a VGA screen! P As muhc as we (the royal we) like HTC, I think their software could definitely use some tweaking. EDIT: Aesthetically, this device is like a hot poker in the eye. Edited April 30, 2008 by Syphon Filter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alp1ne Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Paul, if isn't a big effort for you, can you post a TCMP or CorePlayer benchmark? to see if VGA display isn't a dead load for that MSM7200 Thanks, great job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stesa Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 never seen a so ugly phone :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Boinng Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 (edited) It's an ugly beast, it has to be said. Looks better open I think, but at the same time, with the keyboard inset like that, it doesn't look particularly comfortable to use. I'm sure the spec is marvellous, but I suspect the looks will still put plenty off. I don't think the Xperia X1 (or Raphael) has anything to worry about here. Edited April 30, 2008 by Boinng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Boinng: Agreed... P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shootydogthing Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Interesting 2.5 INCH headphones there Paul :D Pretty big jack compared to the 3.5mm you thought it was :( The keyboard looks a LOT like the kaiser's to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Keyboard is VERY different to Kaiser... P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shootydogthing Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 I suppose it's smaller, but when I first saw a pic of this phone open i instantly thought "That's the kaiser keyboard" But I doubt there's much else you can do with keyboards this small without having weird-shaped keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ovie Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 It's really not the prettiest device on the market is it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mikeeey Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 (edited) Hmmm, haven't tried that, i'll give it a go! Incidentally, it's WAY faster than the Kaiser I think, despite sharing the same proc and having to drive a VGA screen! P well i hope it shares the same processor, and not the 7200A! if it shares the same processor then theres more hope for drivers on our kaisers. i really do like this phone, it seems slim AND it has a keyboard. i would have prefered that it slid out the other way, for a right handed person, but thats ok. Edited May 1, 2008 by mikeeey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Skeese Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Paul, could you check if the 9502 is compatible with MicroSDHC? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smart-Mobile-Gadgets Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Keyboard is VERY different to Kaiser... P Nice Video paul.. :D :( like your T.V I think the 9502 keyboard More Comfortable for typing long emails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nickcornaglia Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Saw the specs via RSS and was excited to see the phone......then I saw it! eeesh! c'mon....I need to come back to the fold! Gimme a nice looking, high spec'd, small device already! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hunyango_uk Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 not as nice as the kaiser, but i'd rather get this one co'z of vga display and tv out. paul, how bout the performance of the inbuilt gps? cheers mate. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NuShrike Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 paul, how bout the performance of the inbuilt gps? cheers mate. :DIf it's either using the Qualcomm GPSone, or the SiRFIII GPS chip that iMate traditionally used, it should be pretty good. Paul, got any benchmarks for us to compare to? From what I've been reading, it has some hardware acceleration in the video drivers in the same fashion as the KS20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 well i hope it shares the same processor, and not the 7200A! if it shares the same processor then theres more hope for drivers on our kaisers. i really do like this phone, it seems slim AND it has a keyboard. i would have prefered that it slid out the other way, for a right handed person, but thats ok. 7200A = same processor with minor tweaks to get round the broadcom patent issues. It's the 7201 which is the new, better one :D P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Paul, could you check if the 9502 is compatible with MicroSDHC? Thanks Not out of the box, I think it's easily fixed tho! P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 I have done some SPB Benchmarks, and it completely obliterates the Kaiser. P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest philpac Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Any chance you could comment on the video capabilities, i.e. how is the UI, video playback. esp compared to Tytn 2. I was looking at getting a vario 3, but if this remedies some of the issues from that (laggy UI, crappy video) I'll definitely get one, I can tolerate the ugly!! All I'm looking for is a phone/pda with: 1) GPS 2) A decent screen 3) Keyboard 4) Wifi 5) HSDPA/HSUPA 6) Decent video playback It'll kind of be a baby laptop for me, I've just moved and my commute has gone up 10 fold, so I need something to do on the trip, so if you can find anything that might ruin those features I'd be interested to know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mikeeey Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 7200A = same processor with minor tweaks to get round the broadcom patent issues. It's the 7201 which is the new, better one :D P no no no other way around. check this thread on xda: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385605 if i went into the AT&T store right now and if they had a new unit on display it would most likely have the 7201 chip. from what ive seen on pdadb, all 7200A devices are 520mhz... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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