Guest MMasia Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Hi all Just returned from a little shopping trip with a lovely new toy :-) Seems the HTC Touch Diamond was released today in Hong Kong, the area I was in had them in most of the shops, though they were selling out fast. First impressions are very positive, its cooooool! Having gone from an iphone to a touch dual to this in the last 6 months it gives me room for comparison. It is the most 'un-windows mobile' windows mobile experience I have ever had, its quick and responsive. However, don't be expecting it to be responsive like the iphone, it simply isn't (afterall this is still windows mobile, just with an overlay). But... it looks amazing, size is great and the 3d touch flo is nice and snappy. Two things I notice that are as good as the iphone are the touch keyboard, which even though the screen is smaller it really is excellent and the screen itself is so sharp, the vga display really makes this phone stunning to use. Opera is included and ready to use, the experience is great coming from netfront 3.5 on my touch dual, it's not as good at scrolling and moving as safari is, but it is the best browsing you will get on WM. Opera ocassionally twitches a little and moves the page in an odd way, but still very very good. The 7.2mbps HSDPA really does shift, the built in youtube application has videos playing almost instantly. It's currently pulling all my contacts and settings back through dashwire but will post some more indepth thoughts on this release version as soon as I can. And here it is: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ston Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Hi, I'm landing in HK tomorrow. Do you mind if I ask how much it was and where you got it from? Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MMasia Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Hi, I'm landing in HK tomorrow. Do you mind if I ask how much it was and where you got it from? Regards Sure, they are $5500 HKD and got it in Mongkok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Esko Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Yello :D Would like to know if it comes with a case or not? There has been some conflictuous reports about this. Thanks in advance, Esko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Sweet! :D P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest awarner (MVP) Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Not a bad price at all, good £80 cheaper than the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MMasia Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Yello :D Would like to know if it comes with a case or not? There has been some conflictuous reports about this. Thanks in advance, Esko Hi No case with it. Just phone, cool looking charger, headset, spare stylus and some instructions. Stu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xzces Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Hi there, congrats on your new phone :D I've read several things about the 4 hardware buttons below the screen. That they look like touch sensitive buttons but are actually just regular buttons. Can you give us some info about that? Also great to hear about the on-screen keyboard. It was a main issue for me between getting the diamond in a week or 2 or waiting 3 more months for the Raphael. (That and the raphael's tv-out, but that's not really important with 4gb I guess) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MMasia Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Hi there, congrats on your new phone :D I've read several things about the 4 hardware buttons below the screen. That they look like touch sensitive buttons but are actually just regular buttons. Can you give us some info about that? Also great to hear about the on-screen keyboard. It was a main issue for me between getting the diamond in a week or 2 or waiting 3 more months for the Raphael. (That and the raphael's tv-out, but that's not really important with 4gb I guess) Yes, they are hardware buttons. The plate over the bottom section kinda pushes down in that area, although I agree they do look like touch sensitive buttons. It's not like any advanced technology here, just a piece of plastic that can push in four areas. If that makes sense :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MMasia Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Not a bad price at all, good £80 cheaper than the UK. And that price is kinda first day price, they are being strict on it. Expect that to be about $5400 (350 quid) in fortress (dixons like shop) and down to $4500 (290 quid) ish in the smaller specialist centres in a few weeks time, always seems to be the pattern with new release handsets here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bosuul Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Does it have TomTom installed on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MMasia Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Does it have TomTom installed on it? No it doesn't, and it is not supplied on the cds either. They just have spb gprs monitor and a talking dictionary. The only gps related things on it are the quick gps download assistant and some settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest painkill Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 what is the amount of ram? 128 or 192? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mydexterid Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Can you pls run a benchmark on the device? Like SpbBenchmark? I'm really corious about the 2d/3d capabilities of this device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ovie Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Do you have the whole 4GB to use or is some of the memory taken up already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phill Tucker Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 It's appearence looks better than the iphone too. I get the over all impression you appreciate it better than the Iphone - is there a huge difference or is it just slightly better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MMasia Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 what is the amount of ram? 128 or 192? It has 192MB ram split 113 to programs and 82 to storage by default. Only has 41MB free in program memory with nothing extra running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MMasia Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Can you pls run a benchmark on the device? Like SpbBenchmark? I'm really corious about the 2d/3d capabilities of this device. Hi, I tried spb benchmark and it wouldn't install, just some unknown error. That could be because I don't use windows computers at home and had to extract the cab from the exe. I will try and install it at work tomorrow. I will be testing it with some games and emulators tomorrow to see what it can and can't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest markdotpeters5 Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 I'm warming considerable to the diamond, but I think i'm going to wait for the alleged iPhone announcement on the 9th before I vote with my wallet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MMasia Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Do you have the whole 4GB to use or is some of the memory taken up already? It comes with 3800 meg free in the internal storage. It is named 'internal storage' in the system in most places, but some bits still refer to it as storage card, i assume it's just an internally fitted micro sd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MMasia Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 It's appearence looks better than the iphone too. I get the over all impression you appreciate it better than the Iphone - is there a huge difference or is it just slightly better? In general usage I still think the iphone is probably better, ie internet browsing, making calls, navigating contacts, texting. But it's the other stuff I like better with the diamond, it just does more than an iphone. .... and it looks so much more stylish, as a macbook air owner I often appreciate style over substance in devices. The more I play with the diamond the more it keeps impressing me, it is unlike any windows mobile device I have ever used in that it just does things. It doesn't sit and wait around or lock up or crash (so far). I think you could show someone technophobic and it would look cool to them, not like some over-complicated nerd toy. Had time to play with the opera browser more today on my travels around hong kong on the underground, it's really quite good. Can actually read the bbc news pages when zoomed out in landscape mode.... did i mention that even the tilt sensor works well, not like the iphone in that it only works in certain apps, but works good. The teeter game is a great example of this working. Stu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MMasia Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 I'm warming considerable to the diamond, but I think i'm going to wait for the alleged iPhone announcement on the 9th before I vote with my wallet! That was my plan as well, but had a play in the shop with it and i worked out it is what i wanted. I moved from the iphone to the touch dual because I couldn't cope being back on 2G. I loved the better speed and more software options in the touch dual but the slow OS and crashes really pissed me off. So when I played with the diamond it struck me as being the perfect device. Sure I might be a bit down hearted if the new iphone has 3g, gps, smaller size, better camera but I doubt it will have any of these apart from the 3g, and I actually think this phone is, for the time being, the best available. On top of that the iphone is not officially available in hong kong until maybe xmas time, its a bit of a ball ache having to worry about unlocking and using different standard sim cards and stuff if i have an imported US one again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest braddybrad Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 The main reason I would choose the htc diamond over the iphone 3G is the size. My phone is always in my pocket (sometimes even shirt pocket) and the iphone is just too big for that: htc diamond: 4.0 inches 102 mm x 2.0 inches 51 mm x 0.45 inch 11.35 mm Iphone: 4.5 inches 115 mm x 2.4 inches 61 mm x 0.46 inch 11.6 mm I understand the iphone 3g will have the same screen as 2G so I doubt it will be smaller. Cheers, Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xzces Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Thanks for the info. The pricing is good as well, compared to the uk and other internet prices. It sells in the Netherlands for 475 euros or HKD 5780. I'm really anxcious to order it but I guess I'll wait until more info arrives of the Raphael (because of the ram, keyboard & tv-out). T-mobile will release that phone by sept/oct. Great to hear that the initial user impressions are good though! I don't really rely on press releases etc because they usually tend to hype new devices and not talk about their flaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peterock Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Thanks for the info. The pricing is good as well, compared to the uk and other internet prices. It sells in the Netherlands for 475 euros or HKD 5780. I'm really anxcious to order it but I guess I'll wait until more info arrives of the Raphael (because of the ram, keyboard & tv-out). T-mobile will release that phone by sept/oct. Great to hear that the initial user impressions are good though! I don't really rely on press releases etc because they usually tend to hype new devices and not talk about their flaws. What is the warranty on these phones? as I am in HK in july so maybe picking one up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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