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Because Paul hasn't ported CamerAware to Android

*grumble grumble grumble*

In all seriousness, iPhone seems like a toy compared to WinMo...the walled garden of Apple does not appeal to me. Android, I like the look it a lot, it promises so much, even the app store is order of magnitude more populated than the WinMo Marketplace BUT I have serious concerns about Google and privacy. Google are great, their apps/software are great...I mean REALLY great, considering it's mostly (all?) free? But what information is being collected along the way? I dunno, maybe I am too much of a cynic/am a bit paranoid but I have grave concerns about Googles privacy policy.


Yes you are a cynic :)
iPhone is more like a pocket computer - in terms of what I have seen. Awesome device. But not suited for all!
Likewise Android may not suit everyone, but as I mentioned beofre, you gotta try them out !

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For me its familiar interface, seamless intergration with Outlook and for me it just works.

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Yes you are a cynic B)
iPhone is more like a pocket computer - in terms of what I have seen. Awesome device. But not suited for all!
Likewise Android may not suit everyone, but as I mentioned beofre, you gotta try them out !


I know, 28 and a cynic!! My wife hates me for it!!

Does no one else worry about the data Google collects? As I said, if CamerAware was available for Android I would probably have ordered a Motorola Milestone today instead of an HD2!!! But alas, I am confined to WinMo because of our great and powerful leader Paul O'Brien :) Anyone would think he has shares in MSFT ;)

j/k Paul.

But seriously, that's about it. My favourite satnav (CoPilot) is available for Android, the marketplace is amazing (though not as vast as Apple's yet) and the whole OS feels really "fresh". But it's a little young and I think given some time to mature it will really come into it's own.

I have been a WinMo diehard since the days of the original Orange SPV then the E200, C500 and then I went over to the larger PPC style devices; Wizard, Hermes, Kaiser, Raphael and now Leo (well, hopefully tomorrow if the postie can fight through the snow!!).

Got a weird feeling though, if WM7 isn't the game-changer that I am hoping it will be I might have to ditch WinMo. I might keep a legacy device just for CamerAware (if Paul still has not ported it). In this even, I think Android will be my next choice.

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There are hardcore Apple iphone fanboys (and girls), those that live by Symbian, Blackberry addicts, a new mixed crowd following Android, and of course those that would die without their Windows Mobile...

Lately Windows Mobile has taken quite a bashing from other Mobile OS's and in some respects is lacking in some areas.
HTC who were dedicated to Windows Mobile, are now sharing that space with Android.

1) The question is why? Why do you stick with Windows Mobile?
2) What feature(s) make you stick with Windows Mobile?
3) What deters you from other Mobile OS devices?


First of all because of the customisation possibilities, the interoperability with Windows systems (Office, XP, Vista etc.), because the logic is the same (I know, same company) and, well, because I'm addicted now :) .

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There are hardcore Apple iphone fanboys (and girls), those that live by Symbian, Blackberry addicts, a new mixed crowd following Android, and of course those that would die without their Windows Mobile...

Lately Windows Mobile has taken quite a bashing from other Mobile OS's and in some respects is lacking in some areas.
HTC who were dedicated to Windows Mobile, are now sharing that space with Android.

1) The question is why? Why do you stick with Windows Mobile?
2) What feature(s) make you stick with Windows Mobile?
3) What deters you from other Mobile OS devices?


To answer the 3 questions. I got a ipod touch and love it to bits stopped me getting the iphone. So my Diamond 2 is mainly a phone and a web browser when im at work. The fact that my Diamond 2 has the potential to emulate android stopped me from getting a G2 at the last minute. Loyalty to the brand and the business features were the main reasons I have stayed since having my Orange SPV :)

However!! Im tempted to exchange my diamond 2 for the HTC Hero and make my judgement on whether to get another windows device when windows 7 comes out by then i'll be due an upgrade. Why do I say this?? Android and iphone are starting to catchup with the killer business features of win mo aka office. I could explain why i feel iphone and android are catching up and the reason why i stayed with winmo for so long. But i'll save it for another time unless you really wanna know lol

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To answer the 3 questions. I got a ipod touch and love it to bits stopped me getting the iphone. So my Diamond 2 is mainly a phone and a web browser when im at work. The fact that my Diamond 2 has the potential to emulate android stopped me from getting a G2 at the last minute. Loyalty to the brand and the business features were the main reasons I have stayed since having my Orange SPV :)

However!! Im tempted to exchange my diamond 2 for the HTC Hero and make my judgement on whether to get another windows device when windows 7 comes out by then i'll be due an upgrade. Why do I say this?? Android and iphone are starting to catchup with the killer business features of win mo aka office. I could explain why i feel iphone and android are catching up and the reason why i stayed with winmo for so long. But i'll save it for another time unless you really wanna know lol


Google and Apple are most certainly aiming into the Business Market - I think times are changing and these 2 vendors have proven that they can come along with a "fresh new look" and "Feel" to a phone that in my view surpasses WM in almost all ways.

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In my case, I switched over from Palm Treo about six months ago. Primarily because I wanted to become familiar with WinMo.

So far, I find it very stable (using Omnia i910 with WinMo 6.1). I do primarily email, web browsing, spreadsheets, and maybe 400 hours of phone usage per month. So far, it does everything I need it to do, with very little tinkering.

Admittedly, I installed spb Mobile Shell for the UI, which suits my needs better. I was OK with the provided UI, just like the ability to customize it more than WinMo provided.

Also, I am a full time RVer, so need to be on Verizon for widest coverage available. So, that limits the choices available. Will I switch to another OS? I doubt it. WinMo does what I need, and is very stable.

I like to explore new technologies, and Android picks my curiosity, but don't feel the need to try it yet.

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Google and Apple are most certainly aiming into the Business Market - I think times are changing and these 2 vendors have proven that they can come along with a "fresh new look" and "Feel" to a phone that in my view surpasses WM in almost all ways.


my thoughts exactly. Office is coming to iphone and andriod can edit word docs so i've heard.

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1) The question is why? Why do you stick with Windows Mobile?
2) What feature(s) make you stick with Windows Mobile?
3) What deters you from other Mobile OS devices?


1) The ability to customise every part of the phone, ROMS, GPS, activesync and exchange support, the ability to connect to a VPN connection and to join a windows domain.

2) Above + RDP client.

3) Honestly? Nothing anymore.

These last couple of weeks I've asked myself the same three questions you've been asking.
More specifically, do I upgrade to the HD2 or do I ditch windows and get the iPhone? After much reading and playing around with a lot of iphones I've noticed that the iPhone pretty much does what winmo does now. Plus it has an amazing screen and a great app store!
The only thing that was holding me back was, the lack of GPS, the lack of native exchange support, the lack of being able to connect to a VPN network and CamerAware!
Turns out the iPhone does all of this now and more! There is (unfortunately) a program that is very similar to CamerAware, (Paul if your reading this, please port it to the iPhone!) For the last couple of weeks I've been using an old nokia of mine for roaming purposes and I forgot what it was like to have a phone that just works, no crashing, no freezing, no soft-resets, no fidling around with CAB files, the list goes on...

I dunno, I think WinMo is stuck. It hasn't changed in the last 5years.
Gonna call vodafone and get me an iPhone...

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Well for me i've been with Winmo for years and now i'm thinking of changing

For me Apps and Games are the most important part and Winmo just seems to be lacking in these areas
having looked at the Iphone & Android apps i cant see anything that could not be done with these that Winmo already does but now they can do it better.

All over the net everyone with Winmo is searching for Finger Freindly apps mainly because however you want to try and defend it Winmo has not really improved much over the years.

HTC have helped with Touchflo but even they impose too many restrictions within Touchflo for it to be the ultimate Interface
and not to mention thet HTC cant even supply proper Drivers for their Chipset which does not help matters.

In all honesty even if Winmo 7 is the best user interface ever the apps still lag far behind.

The only good thing i can say about winmo is it's very easy to customise but thats not coz of MS its the community such as here which makes it possible.

For me The issues with the TYTN and touch HD drivers and the lack of really good games compared to the others (try them believe me they are miles ahead) have pretty much made me think of switching which is something i didn't think i would ever say.

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I am new to WinMo, my first WinMo device is like a week-old now. Switched from a Symbian Nokia (used it for a month) iPhone 3G(1 year) to Android feat. HTC G1(1.5 years), I no longer finding myself being attached to a particular OS platform. However, I do have some opinions regarding these devices. Apple really has done a great job in terms of its huge selection of apps and system stability. At some point I thought I wouldn't replace it with anything other that a iPhone 4G or something. But then when I am walking on the street I find myself holding the same color/looking handheld to my face I no longer find it cool... People like us can always find some good excuses to switch to another phone. ;)
And then I ran into Android. First impression is: User friendly and Fresh. The Mods at the xda are doing an excellent job making the OS sparkles even more. Though recently as Google began to get more involved with its so-called open-source project, the momentum is no longer the same. Though I have to say it is a very interesting OS and it can multi-task. I really recommend for those who haven't tried it should jump onto the ship! You will be amazed!

P.S. Something I found strange with WinMo is that the community, like MoDaCo, is way bigger than the MS official appstore (Marketplace) itself... For Apple there's 3rd-party appstore Cydia, but the Apple's one is just way bigger; and for Android users they solely rely on its own Market. Yet this is to my liking cuz its more interactive as people are always there to respond to ur problems :)

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althought it has only few applications available, it has the essential bit like microsoft office mobile and at the end of the day it is very similar to your laptop or desktop computer. you dont have a symbian or android computer do you? :)

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2) What feature(s) make you stick with Windows Mobile?

Nothing - hateful operating system - sorry to all the fans, I fully understand the flexibility, but I just upgraded to 6.5 on an OMNIA II (can't move off a stock ROM otherwise my device wouldn't meet corporate guidelines and I'd have my access removed) and it's pants, can't event surf the web and have the radio on, without it running out of memory and closing the radio, ok it may be a bad Samsung implementation, but seriously!



I had the same experience on Omnia 2 WM 6.5, crash every now and then, slow, out of memory, lousy interface. .. really sick of how they mess up the OS. Now my only hope is samsung not giving up the ROM updates now and custom ROM. Probably not going back samsung on my next if it's still WM.

currently trial HD2. Like it due to it's hardware capability and HTC sense but then again, it still crash often and requires soft reset every now and then and when tested against iphone.. the smoothness of the OS just beats WM HD2 handsdown. and the games available for iphone is simple yet innovative. Though I still won't buy a iphone now but who knows this july when Apple refresh iphone again. It may be hard to resist.

Edited by visions77, 23 December 2009 - 12:34 AM.

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I had previously stuck with Windows Mobile because of it relative ease of use with Windows Desktop, although I did have issues with each phone I used.

The iPhone showed the way forward, a new thinking on Mobile Phones, showed that more could be offer from a mobile phone. I was lucky that a friend had an iPhone I could try but with Apples refusal to have the basics like cut & paste and MMS messaging meant I would be looking elsewhere.

I have now, initially reluctantly, moved to Android. Before I had even tried one of these phones I was adamant that I would stay with WM, but WM7 hadn't materialised and the whole OS was looking dated to me so I jumped.

Best move I ever made, can't even look at my old WM phones any more :) , have 2, HTC TyTyn II & III, good as they were at the time,they feel dated, the reliance on a stylus etc.

Probably the wrong place for this post but the only WM phone worth a consideration would be HTC HD2.
My preferences would have to be
1) Android
2) iPhone
3) HTC HD2 (Yes I know this is a phone and not an OS, but the only WM (with the Sense UI) worth considering IMHO)

From here on in Android it is (much more exciting!!)

OK let me head on over back to my own forum

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Edited by masterpfa, 23 December 2009 - 01:02 AM.

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Why am I still with WinMo? Simple, I'm on a two year contract. As soon as they port a stable version of Android to the Omnia, I'm ditching WinMo in a heartbeat.

Edited by Abqcub, 23 December 2009 - 03:29 AM.

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my thoughts exactly. Office is coming to iphone and andriod can edit word docs so i've heard.


QuickOffice is well worth a look on th eiPhone. There are also some video reviews of the product in action.

http://download.cnet...4-10913717.html <-- review if interested :)

Documents 2 Go is another alternative.

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My first Pocket PC was the iPaq 5450, and then to the original XDA and a few more others. Got tired to using stylus (two-handed), and decided to switch to Symbian for more than 2.5 years.
Then I had the HTC Magic for a while, which I kinda like it, as I am a heavy Google user. Android is cool, and very different and refreshing. For example, you guys might prefer syncing with Outlook, but I feel that syncing with Google seamlessly is very much better.

Somehow, I decided to switch to my current Omnia 2 because of its screen size. But, I'm sure I will switch to Android again, very soon, when it has a bigger screen...

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I might try Android at some point in the future, I'm not particularly loyal :)

QAt the moment though, Android offers no real advantages to me - I can do everything I want to with WinMo, and it has the advantage of easy syncing with Outlook and full compatability with Office, without going through various kludges or hunting round for semi-decent replacement software. That and the fact that the HD2 is probably the best current phone on the marketplace and it happens to run WM. ;)


Completely agree!

Besides this several more factors:
1. I need strong support for several languages (English, Hebrew, Russian) at the same time, i.e. simultaneously, with keyboards layouts, documents reading/editing and browsers' support. Till now i didnt see serious frameworks neither in Android not in iPhone. I heard that iPhone recently has this support yet i wont buy iPhone only for checking this fact.

2. I have a set of application i need for WinMo and dont want to look for new set with uncertain functionality. Moreover - i bought some of these application and dont want to spend additional $$ for new set.

3. I know how to customize and tune my WinMos (i had several) and dont want to learn new trics

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Somehow, I decided to switch to my current Omnia 2 because of its screen size. But, I'm sure I will switch to Android again, very soon, when it has a bigger screen...


2010 will show HTC have some GREAT devices for Android! Watch this space..... :)

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sry ;-)

after years and years of HTC devices they lost me....

1) The question is why? Why don't you stick with Windows Mobile?
2) What feature(s) did not make you stick with Windows Mobile?
3) What deters you from other Mobile OS devices?


Answers

1) crappy camera , no flash, the need to reset the device every now and then.... the nokia just crashes and starts up again ;-)
2) the amount of software i needed to install after a hard reset
3) same old , same old...

again, after many HTC device, i must say, nokia e75 rules....

mayby the question should be, why do you guys keep making advertisment for those crappy ms devices ;-)

i would love to see a htc device with a 8 mega pixel camera, led flash, tv option, beamer.....

we need to wait like 5 years ?
well......

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