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[kendon]

fyremoon, on Jan 13 2010, 19:45, said:

wget is actually included in busybox, so there won't be any need for a separate binary.

Open up a shell and type busybox and you will be presented by the number of compiled in programs ready for use.

lol, i could've come up with this myself should check busybox features more often when fooling around with the phone... thx for the tip.

as for the debian idea: i had both debian and ubuntu on my phone, even ubuntu with gnome running  
it is just not that comfortable to use. you have to start it somehow via bootdeb, you need to shutdown before you can restart your phone and all this. imho this is too much trouble if you just want some simple tools at hand. for example i have an alias as='adb shell', so whenever i want a command executed on android i just put as in front of it.
i'd prefer to have them statically linked ( whatever that means, i guess something like standalone executable), as they are easy to include in roms this way. correct me if i am wrong, more than typing make to compile something and i am so out of there...

fwiw here is my list of aliases i use when fooling around with android, remount is a script i created in /system/bin, you can guess what it does:

alias as='adb shell'
alias asll='adb shell ls -alh'
alias aslog='adb logcat|tee logcat.txt'
alias asro='adb shell remount ro'
alias asrw='adb shell remount rw'
alias assd='adb shell mount /sdcard'
alias cdhero='cd /media/data/hero'
alias vnchero='vncviewer hero:5901'
alias sshero='ssh root@hero -p 2222'

[fyremoon]

freeasabeer, on Jan 13 2010, 12:29, said:

Once installed, you can start screen with: /data/xbin/screen and resume an ongoing session with /data/xbin/screen -r

Enjoy !

I copied screen and screen.real into /system thinking that I wouldn't have to type the path, but it then asks for files in /var/run/utmp.

screen still runs though, bizarre!

[PaulOBrien]

/data/init.sh is run at first boot, so you could run inetd from there.

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[stevenz]

I realise this is probably a stupid question, but do you guys have any examples of what you're wanting to achieve by running this level of shell functionality on the Hero? As much as I'd like to have a fully functional remote Linux shell to ssh into from my Windows PC at work, I'm not sure it'd be of a great deal of use.

Please prove me wrong, I might stick Ubuntu onto it just "because I can", but I doubt I'd get a lot of use out of it, pretty sure I've seen someone's (Kendon's?) screenshots of remote X11 VNC sessions which would be amusing, but is vnc practical on such a "low-end" device? (this from someone who used to run Slackware on a PC with a crusty DX/2 66Mhz Cyrix CPU o/clocked to 80mhz years ago).

Suggestions of uses would be interesting

@Kendon - Statically linked binaries have any required library code embedded, dynamically linked ones call the external libraries (smaller executables). Portability vs. size.

Edited by stevenz, 14 January 2010 - 02:55 AM.

[pulser]

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kendon, on Jan 13 2010, 16:34, said:

just tested tree in connectbot, works great.

Cheers, kendon. Must have missed this post during a merge, either that or I'm going blind. :???

[Olatho]

Now, if there only were a nice terminal-widget (not application, but a 4x4 widget I could stick on one of mye homescreens), this would be really great.
But thanks a lot for your work, all of you!

[kendon]

stevenz, on Jan 14 2010, 03:14, said:

I realise this is probably a stupid question, but do you guys have any examples of what you're wanting to achieve by running this level of shell functionality on the Hero? As much as I'd like to have a fully functional remote Linux shell to ssh into from my Windows PC at work, I'm not sure it'd be of a great deal of use.

well, you could use rsync to syncronize directories when toying around with the bootscreen for example, also tree. actually it is all just a matter of how easy it can be to do something. with these tools many things become a one-click thing, you can't do anything you couldn't do before, but you can do it more easily.

edit: and yes, actually just because we can.

Edited by kendon, 14 January 2010 - 08:38 AM.

[paulsmith]

thanks for rsync - much appreciated.

Im assuming as its in update.zip format - we install by using the RA tools (rebooting , holding home key - like you would another ROM or radio)?

[Vano13]

Paul, it would be nice if you include mc in the MCR. Android's shell is almost unusable comparing to complete linux shell (bash, csh, etc). mc can help doing many things much faster:)

Edited by Vano13, 14 January 2010 - 09:43 AM.

[PaulOBrien]

I wonder how I can get rsync running as a CRON job?

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[paulsmith]

Cron job running on the phone would be ace for rsync - especially if it will turn on the wi-fi and turn off when finished.

My old iPhone had rsync but no cron,  I used to have a cron job running on my main media box that would try and rsync every 10mins. Not great but it was great for backing up my phone camera photos and adding audio/video to the phone. Saved my bacon when I dropped it in a cup of tea - phone was kaput but all my photos were safe.

I've tried to play around with the android app locale - but I think it COULD be the cause of slow downs on my phone. Giving up on it

[PaulOBrien]

I use Y5 to turn on wifi when i'm at home and off when I go out. I use locale too tho.

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[freeasabeer]

cron and crond are already in busybox, so isn't it just a matter of tweaking the init.sh to get crond started ?

[Marcony0]

this soo feels like many of the familiar Linux forums sometime's i feel i should have continued my computer science degree rather doing medical science :\ oh well..

cron job would be interesting

[kieranc]

Paul, on Jan 13 2010, 20:03, said:

vi? Pah! Nano ftw!

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n00b nano sux!
nice idea though, screen is very useful, i can see rsync being handy too!

[PaulOBrien]

Interesting, should have checked busybox, didn't realise crond is in there!

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[stevenz]

By default BB crontab seems to look in /var/spool/cron/ and doesn't like working with a uid of 0. The folder can be specified with the -c switch, but if I point this at /etc/ and put the crontab in there the log says "ignoring crontab", along with all the other files in /etc/ - so it either doesn't like the filename or something within it.

I've just got;

* * * * *  echo "New line" >> /data/cronout

in the crontab at the moment, guessing it's looking for a user-level file and not finding it due to no uid's?

[redcow]

If somebody needs it, I compiled for myself at the beginning of my android experience nmap, netcat, joe, hts/htc, kismet, aircrack, wireless-tools,gpsd.. as static compiled binaries. For all the non daily use stuff I'm using debian in a chroot environment (bootdeb) much more flexible.

Edited by redcow, 14 January 2010 - 07:34 PM.

[kendon]

redcow, on Jan 14 2010, 20:31, said:

If somebody needs it, I compiled for myself at the beginning of my android experience nmap, netcat, joe, hts/htc, kismet, aircrack, wireless-tools,gpsd.. as static compiled binaries. For all the non daily use stuff I'm using debian in a chroot environment (bootdeb) much more flexible.

nmap please

has anyone tried tcpdump?

[Andcr]

YAY! rsync on my Hero!!
thanks a lot for this, I have been googling for this the last few weeks but nothing turned up.
This is amazing, gonna have a play with it

I checked for cron earlier this week but got the message "crontab: unknown uid 0" when running crontab -e
rsync + cron would be even more amazing