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Hello all

Background:
I'm a Pocket PC phone lover and have my HTC Wizard for already 3 years. Time to change.
I've opted using Samsung Omnia2 instead of HTC Touch HD due to it's very powerful hardware. But I was really worried about it's performance. Lots of youtube's videos show TouchWiz2 very laggy, so it's a shame for a such powerful hardware.

The point:
When I saw this video on Youtube I've got very happy.

Omnia2 : Compare speed to main menu


You may also take a look at the performance on this one:

NeoMtel Smax in Omnia phone - Speed UP!


Let's agree guys, stock Omnia2, specially with TouchWiz2 is very laggy. I've read a lot and removing TouchWiz2 will help a little, but the interface is quite eye-candy and useful to be throwed away.

Then I thought it would be simple to tweak the device in order to improve O2's performance... but...
I thought this video was just showing a simple tweak or custom ROM...
But I was wrong...

I tried to search this Neomtel Platform (SMAX) to see what was it about, but I've got no idea. Also Neomtel's website looks to directed to manufacturers and not end-users like me. So there were no downloads or trials and whatever...

Please, let me know what do you think about this.
Is there any chance of some chef start working on/searching this?


Thanks in advance
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Wow that's an interesting looking UI, very snappy. Not exactly sure what's going on in the first video though. It's compairing the same UI, but one is somehow faster? Searching for info on this UI seems to be useless, must be a work in progress GUI. Can't wait to get more information/trying it out myself.

I'm using a raw version of PointUI right now. I used to use SPB Mobile Shell, but found it too heavy and sometimes sluggish. I'd love to try out a nice new light GUI.

Thanks for sharing the videos you found, hopefully we can dig up some more info about this UI soon.

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If it's the UI that is speedy, then I guess I'll use the UI right away.
Looks so speedy. It's like lag-less.

Btw, I hope it's some driver or so on that they developed that makes it so speedy. That will increase the overall speed of the phone!

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oh myyyy this is very good where can we get that ?

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Yeah guys! Speed! That's what I'm wanting...
Btw, PointUI is a very nice and fast UI. Users should also try the PointSense addon.
SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 is very nice, however is not so fast as the 3.0 version at least on my granny HTC Wizard.

We must agree Touchwiz 2.0 is quite good, but it's laggy... I it could be fast like in the video, I would probably use it...

Thanks for your observation guys!

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No way...this is sick!!
It's just as fast as the iphone 3gs!
This would be a dream come true for the lag-ridden Omnia2...seriously.
I mean, it's quicker than 80% of windows mobile devices, but that isn't saying much.
Compared to newer android devices and iphone, and even the newer symbian phones (satio, kurara, omnia HD), the Omnia2 is slow!

Wow that's an interesting looking UI, very snappy. Not exactly sure what's going on in the first video though. It's compairing the same UI, but one is somehow faster?


I thought the same thing as well...but the only conclusion I could come up with is they are both using standard samsung touchjizz with a dark blue \ black theme, and for some reason the phone on the right has some kind of accelerated graphics?  Perhaps this new UI is more than just a UI...maybe it actually makes use of the graphics acceleration?  But they are both touchwizz without a doubt, unless they copied everything about the touchwizz startmenu to the T (hard to believe...).  This would be revolutionary..

Oh my god, they have more vids on their youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.c...u/2/CN2xys43uzI -- omg.....

This is almost too goo to be true...

Edited by surgex, 17 January 2010 - 06:11 PM.

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anyone else notice the black bar at the bottom(on the second vid)? its like its supposed to be qvga or something.

Edited by KILLvino, 17 January 2010 - 09:00 PM.

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anyone else notice the black bar at the bottom(on the second vid)? its like its supposed to be qvga or something.


It's not QVGA, it's WVGA.

WOW. Whatever they did to that Omnia, it's amazing. I suspect it has to do with the video driver too, because that's the TouchWiz UI that they're playing with. Now that's what I would expect from Samsung! And I hope they will deliver soon for all of us.
Btw, the phone shown is Samsung SCH-M715 (aka T* Omnia II), korean. If anyone has the new device's rom, we're in business!

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waiting to do that!!

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Just found this video, looks related. It says Hypertouch for Omnia 2, and it's definitely korean.

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i don't think it's the touchwiz ui on the second "fast" phone, its the SMAX ui made to look like touchwiz. if you compare them when he's scrolling the touchwiz (on the left) has a scroll bar but the phone with SMAX on the right does not. Must be a work in progress and he/she is just demonstrating the different capabilities and implementation.

but yes, it does look fast and smooth, im hoping for a release

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I know the answer!

That is Flash 10.1, or a Flash speed up tool, so Touchwiz to be speed up!

Touchwiz, TouchPlayer, ...... all Samsung app are Flash.

Edited by jojo0821, 18 January 2010 - 01:10 AM.

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Taken from:

OS/Platform : Windows Mobile 6.x
Resolution : 480*800
Chipset : Samsung / Qualcomm
Smax engine + OpenGL ES 2.x


hmmm?

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i don't think it's the touchwiz ui on the second "fast" phone, its the SMAX ui made to look like touchwiz. if you compare them when he's scrolling the touchwiz (on the left) has a scroll bar but the phone with SMAX on the right does not. Must be a work in progress and he/she is just demonstrating the different capabilities and implementation.

but yes, it does look fast and smooth, im hoping for a release


I think you might be right. Neomtel looks like they're doing some sort of UI engines: Hive, Ispin, Sis. There's some blog about them, too. My guess is that's an engine and might be OS independent. As you can see, Neomtel appear to do (G)UI for a lot of platforms. So I think it can be a cab :) thus, extractable and usable. :) We just need the rom, for now from that Omnia 2.

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Now that i've seen these videos, and cant find those cabs, Errr m so restless.

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Now that i've seen these videos, and cant find those cabs, Errr m so restless.


Agreed...this is the kind of stuff that can make or break a device's usability (if that's a word)... :)

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the company is on the stock market.
there will be no way that this smax UI will be free.
but i will gladly pay for it

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Taken from:

OS/Platform : Windows Mobile 6.x
Resolution : 480*800
Chipset : Samsung / Qualcomm
Smax engine + OpenGL ES 2.x


hmmm?


That means fast performance not only on the TouchWiz UI. But also other UI such as SPB Mobile Shell and so on right? Great to hear that!
So does that mean better game performance too?

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That means fast performance not only on the TouchWiz UI. But also other UI such as SPB Mobile Shell and so on right? Great to hear that!
So does that mean better game performance too?


i think, you guys took it wrong.
The video showing "accelerated" main menu of omnia II is semi-fake.
What developers wanted to show is their engine and how it works. So, they mimic main menu, i.e. wrote their own application using their Smax engine which pretends to look like main menu. So they showed how the same amount of icons/graphics can be moved much smoother than engine used by samsung.
What i understood is that they advertising their engine for MANUFACTURERS, not for customers. So, if samsung will be interested in their engine then they will able to buy it and write slick and fast applications.

Don't look for a black cat in the dark room because there are no cats there :)

Edited by sorg, 19 January 2010 - 07:13 PM.

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^^ much to our disappointment, that makes sense.

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