Guest MrLong Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 (edited) Here's a silly question, but if I'm running with around 30MB of free RAM most of the time, what is the advantage of running with, say, 70MB of free RAM most of the time? I would think that 30MB is *plenty* of free RAM to load up pretty much any application. From what I understand of the way Android works ( and I may be completely wrong here ) the system uses your free RAM as a vm_cache ( so it's not really "free", the system just reduces the cache when apps need the RAM ) that tries to predict what you *might* want to do next. For example, it can keep all the home screens loaded on your "free RAM" so that when you press the HOME key and scroll from screen to screen, there won't be stutter. This really helps on the HTC Hero with all 7 screens loaded with widgets ( like mine ). Another example is during a screen rotation, the system can use the "free RAM" to store a rotated state of the app you're using. This helps a lot with things like Google Maps and email or SMS with the keyboard out. Hope this helps. Edited February 12, 2010 by MrLong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RatSon Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 From what I understand of the way Android works ( and I may be completely wrong here ) the system uses your free RAM as a vm_cache ( so it's not really "free", the system just reduces the cache when apps need the RAM ) that tries to predict what you *might* want to do next. For example, it can keep all the home screens loaded on your "free RAM" so that when you press the HOME key and scroll from screen to screen, there won't be stutter. This really helps on the HTC Hero with all 7 screens loaded with widgets ( like mine ). Another example is during a screen rotation, the system can use the "free RAM" to store a rotated state of the app you're using. This helps a lot with things like Google Maps and email or SMS with the keyboard out. Hope this helps. that's the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RatSon Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 @RatSon I like it, seems to work well. May I make a UI suggestion? As we're all running pure touch devices, a UI that's perhaps slider-control based may be more user friendly. I've attached the Tone Picker UI as an example, easily fits 6 slider on a portrait screen. What do you think? i will consider this, but only as an option. exact values give more flexibility, and are in this case a better choise. i am right now working on a social database which would collect the setting from you, users and give suggestions based on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ermacwins Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 ratson, I am using hero kagudroid 1.2.2 do i just download you app and hit apply? or do i need to muck around with settings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RatSon Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 ratson, I am using hero kagudroid 1.2.2 do i just download you app and hit apply? or do i need to muck around with settings? you shall start with the presets, only set custom values if you know what you are doing. presets can be found in the application menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkrogh Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Yep, made changes, rebooted - no difference regardless of which preset I use. I'm using Advance Task Killer to check my free memory. Doesnt this app need root ? I have set my Hero ud with these settings in a file, which will set my settings in effect when I boot. (doesnt have this app installed) But I could def. feel the differences. Before I would hover around 30 meg free ram, and the system would feel buggy, and would lag. This is completely gone now, and I hover around 60-70 gig free ram now. Checking ram with advanced task killer, and does never have to close any apps manual anymore. Really nice, and a big difference for me :D BTW - Im on MoDaCo 2.9. BR Mkrogh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ermacwins Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 you shall start with the presets, only set custom values if you know what you are doing. presets can be found in the application menu. so if i wanna save battery do i go for moderate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RatSon Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 Doesnt this app need root ? ... BR Mkrogh it definitely needs root, but no reboot required, it is just a feature, that settings remain after reboot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RatSon Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 so if i wanna save battery do i go for moderate? battery saving is only a side effect, feel free to play with different settings and see what suits you best. btw i will release new version soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkrogh Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 it definitely needs root, but no reboot required, it is just a feature, that settings remain after reboot. OK thought so, the manual settings req. root as well :D Maybe thats why some in this post doesnt feel any differenses with this app !! BR. Mkrogh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheAshMan Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 This is pretty good, I tried it out and have now replaced Auto Task Killer with this. I tried opening about 15 applications, and with the exception of CoPilot they all opened smoothly as older tasks were killed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RatSon Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 0.9b is out, go check it :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ZiCoN Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Love this app.... just love it... I've tried a lot of different apps, but this one takes the cake... good work :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RatSon Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 0.9.1b is out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest richdoc Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 This is a fantastic app, its like a turbo for my Hero. I have one suggestion, it would be good to have a setting which you can define then save as an available preset. Also I am intrigued how these settings are preserved after reboot. Are you adding an 'echo' to an existing file? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RatSon Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 This is a fantastic app, its like a turbo for my Hero. I have one suggestion, it would be good to have a setting which you can define then save as an available preset. Also I am intrigued how these settings are preserved after reboot. Are you adding an 'echo' to an existing file? no, I set it after boot is finished. i will think about the preset save function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RatSon Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 hmmm something cool is coming to AutoKiller... I will keep you posted :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RatSon Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 hmmm something cool is coming to AutoKiller... I will keep you posted :( AutoKiller 1.0 is out: come, check the new home page please tell me how you like it :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest arielext Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Although this is in the hero topic I have a question about the droid/milestone. When i use this program and press apply the spinner never stops, don't have the feeling the new settings are set, On my hero it works like a champ though. My milestone is a rooted 2.0.1 with french firmware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RatSon Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Although this is in the hero topic I have a question about the droid/milestone. When i use this program and press apply the spinner never stops, don't have the feeling the new settings are set, On my hero it works like a champ though. My milestone is a rooted 2.0.1 with french firmware do other root related apps run fine on your droid? if so could you please send me a logcat? andrs.studio ...... is my gmail address Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest masterpfa Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Hi for all those who are having trouble understanding the concept behind this app should check out androcheck over at xda forums, he first brought this to the general attention of most people back in January this year, this was the first place I read about the taskkiller. I have been using this method in one form or another for over a month with nothing but positive feedback. Try it, play around with a few setting, hopefully you will see the benefits. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest psionandy Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Hi for all those who are having trouble understanding the concept behind this app should check out androcheck over at xda forums, he first brought this to the general attention of most people back in January this year, this was the first place I read about the taskkiller. I have been using this method in one form or another for over a month with nothing but positive feedback. Try it, play around with a few setting, hopefully you will see the benefits. :( Thanks for that... I've seen it mentioned elsewhere, but was a bit wary as I didn't understand what it was doing... now that I've read a bit of the background it does look like its worth exploring. I'll give it a go and see how it works for me :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eViL D: Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 You have misspelled Agressive. It is actually, Aggressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RatSon Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 You have misspelled Agressive. It is actually, Aggressive. This will be fixed in next release, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chamby Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 been using this for a few days now on the optimum setting and it seems 110% better than the last task manager/killer i used the last one seemed to only keep things fast when i manually killed the apps where as this seems to keep things quick and smooth with out any mesing about thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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