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[David Horvath]

Hey Everyone!

The new Long Term Support Ubuntu is out now, i dont think i have to introduce it, but a screenshot is always a nice thing to see

Introduction: Official Canonical Ubuntu homepage



You can download it from Torrent download from official Canonical server

(If you think this is an inappropriate topic, just delete it, but it could support people who are having trouble while working with Android/Pulse.)

[davbren]

W00T!

[BigBearMDC]

David Horvath, on Apr 29 2010, 18:43, said:

Hey Everyone!

The new Long Term Support Ubuntu is out now, i dont think i have to introduce it, but a screenshot is always a nice thing to see

Introduction: Official Canonical Ubuntu homepage



You can download it from Torrent download from official Canonical server

(If you think this is an inappropriate topic, just delete it, but it could support people who are having trouble while working with Android/Pulse.)

That's cool, thanks

I think I'll install Lucid Lynx on my multimedia PC, which is running Karmic Koala at the moment (my old dev PC).

Micro ITX Board with an Intel Atom 330 @2x 1.6 GHz with HT, 2GB RAM and 80GB HDD, totally passive cooled

Greetings,
BigBear

[David Horvath]

Sounds good, i always wanted to have a minimalistic pc what is always reachable (server?) based on similar specs maybe someday.

[BigBearMDC]

David Horvath, on Apr 29 2010, 19:37, said:

Sounds good, i always wanted to have a minimalistic pc what is always reachable (server?) based on similar specs maybe someday.

[Dr Who]

I have only ever used Ubuntu (well Mandriva as well) but does anyone have any preference for Kubuntu or Xubuntu and if so, why?

[Ashbeard]

Dr Who, on Apr 29 2010, 22:23, said:

I have only ever used Ubuntu (well Mandriva as well) but does anyone have any preference for Kubuntu or Xubuntu and if so, why?

I'm not a big fan of KDE over Gnome but some people like it so Kubuntu suits them I suppose. Xubuntu is better if you have a really old PC with low specs. XFCE is a better window manager for hat sort of computer.

[peanut_rvm]

Dr Who, on Apr 29 2010, 23:23, said:

I have only ever used Ubuntu (well Mandriva as well) but does anyone have any preference for Kubuntu or Xubuntu and if so, why?

Well it is mainly personal preference. Kubuntu comes standard with the kde window manager. this basically mean that is looks and feels like windows, with the bar at the bottom and the start icon, etc...
Xubuntu ofcource uses Xfe as standard wm. Personally i'm not a fan. It is like gnome (which is standard ubuntu) but not as feature rich...
In the end they're all ubuntu, so they all have the wide pro's ubuntu gives you above other distro's. They have the ubuntu software center, and the ubuntu repositories, which are awesome... Apple AND microsoft could learn something from this...

[John Hamelink]

I've been using it for some time now, and I must say that Lucid is frankly awesome.

I gets the thumbs up from me, that's for sure

[Azurren]

I'm probably going to get slaughtered over this but.. I enjoyed using ubuntu but i refuse to touch it again untill the terminal is made optional

Seriously.. I had to google every problem I faced to find what to copy and paste, from installing programs to using the browser. Things that I don't even have to think about when using windows.

Sure you can tell me all the advantages ubuntu has but you surely can't argue against that.. Can you?

[John Hamelink]

Azurren, on Apr 29 2010, 23:11, said:

I'm probably going to get slaughtered over this but.. I enjoyed using ubuntu but i refuse to touch it again untill the terminal is made optional

Seriously.. I had to google every problem I faced to find what to copy and paste, from installing programs to using the browser. Things that I don't even have to think about when using windows.

Sure you can tell me all the advantages ubuntu has but you surely can't argue against that.. Can you?

Umm, you don't need to use the terminal to install programs or use the browser? The reason why you copy and paste programs is because its much easier to copy and paste than to follow a step-by-step graphical tutorial and get it wrong. Just copy and paste some commands and it does all the hard work for you! The terminal is optional.

[jmmL]

Azurren, on Apr 29 2010, 23:11, said:

I'm probably going to get slaughtered over this but.. I enjoyed using ubuntu but i refuse to touch it again untill the terminal is made optional

Seriously.. I had to google every problem I faced to find what to copy and paste, from installing programs to using the browser. Things that I don't even have to think about when using windows.

Sure you can tell me all the advantages ubuntu has but you surely can't argue against that.. Can you?

I really do think the terminal is wholly optional for ubuntu. I can't think of a single "average joe" utility that doesn't have a GUI to go with it.

I think the reason why you see solutions to problems posted as terminal commands is because these are easier to replicate online. It's much easier for someone to type out a command, and then the other person copy and paste into their terminal that for someone to write "click here, then there, type this, click ok" etc and then for the other person to follow their commands click-by-click.

To get specific - installing programs can be done any multitude of ways. You can use two nifty terminal applications (apt-get and aptitude), you could use the GUI program synaptic or you could go App Store style with Ubuntu Software Centre. You can even download .debs and install-by-double-click in the same way that some windows users seem to prefer doing with exes (although you generally lose the nice updating through repos this way).

Which problem with the browser did you have to go to the terminal for? And were you using a stable release or a pre-release? I think it's fair enough that some problems (if not most) during pre-releases are fixed primarily with package updates and terminal commands. It's alpha or beta for a reason, and it's expected that testers will be somewhat capable when it comes to this.

[David Horvath]

I totally agree, and even bigger companies (Microsoft) are developing similar soutions, see PowerShell for example. If you get use to it it will become the most advanced administration and repair tool for you, if not the GUI's are still working great. A good example is me and my girlfriend. I always use terminal, she always uses GUI's. Both of us have the same result, with different paths.

[Dr Who]

Azurren, on Apr 29 2010, 22:11, said:

I'm probably going to get slaughtered over this but.. I enjoyed using ubuntu but i refuse to touch it again untill the terminal is made optional

Seriously.. I had to google every problem I faced to find what to copy and paste, from installing programs to using the browser. Things that I don't even have to think about when using windows.

Sure you can tell me all the advantages ubuntu has but you surely can't argue against that.. Can you?

Well, to some extent I agree. I quit using Ubuntu a few versions ago because I spent a week trying to get output to a second monitor to work in a 1440x900 resolution. A week of following every guide going and it STILL didn't work. Also, a subsequent dabble revealed that support of Broadcom wireless cards was dire in Ubuntu, again took a couple of days of command line action and it still didn't work properly. Installed Mandriva and it worked instantly.

However, I have a variety of laptops around in various stages of decrepitude and I am going to try the latest version of Ubuntu on one of them. I also have an Acer Aspire One which I am going to try and put Netbook Edition on although if that fails (or rather if the missus can't cope outside of a Windows environment) then I will use Win7.

You have to remember though that the only reason you don't have to think about them in Windows is you are so used to the environment. Give a non-computer user a Windows or Ubuntu system and I suspect they would have equal trouble with either. And at least Ubuntu is a safer playground for the computer illiterate.

[_melchett]

Dr Who, on Apr 29 2010, 21:23, said:

I have only ever used Ubuntu (well Mandriva as well) but does anyone have any preference for Kubuntu or Xubuntu and if so, why?

I've used Kubuntu (briefly) twice, and Ubuntu since 7.10. I always find that Kubuntu takes alot more effort to get running, whereas Ubuntu is brilliantly simple. As for people's comments on the Terminal, its easy to use for simple things like apt-get install etc, which is all the average joe (like me) would want it for (i remember learning so much about the terminal getting linux on a pendrive in 2007!).

But i hope 10.04 is better than 9.10, 9.10 took ages to boot up compared to 9.04 (So much so i reinstalled 9.04).
Look forward to installing it when i get the chance!

[davos1]

Azurren, on Apr 30 2010, 09:11, said:

I'm probably going to get slaughtered over this but.. I enjoyed using ubuntu but i refuse to touch it again untill the terminal is made optional

Seriously.. I had to google every problem I faced to find what to copy and paste, from installing programs to using the browser. Things that I don't even have to think about when using windows.

Sure you can tell me all the advantages ubuntu has but you surely can't argue against that.. Can you?

If you feel that way, you should really try out the newer versions of Ubuntu. One of their main goals is to directly compete with other operating systems, such as Windows and OSX, and to do this, they are making it much more user friendly than your standard linux distro.

Give it a go and see if it suits you

_melchett, on Apr 30 2010, 21:00, said:

I've used Kubuntu (briefly) twice, and Ubuntu since 7.10. I always find that Kubuntu takes alot more effort to get running, whereas Ubuntu is brilliantly simple.

That's mainly becuase Kubuntu is just Ubuntu hacked together with KDE. Ubuntu is meant to be a Gnome distro and not KDE, which is why it is verry buggy (at least for me) and a pain to set up.

[BigBearMDC]

LoL, Opera Mini is probably not the best browser to make new posts with ...

What I wanted to say is that my whole system costs about 300 euros

Greetings,
BigBear

[Daz555]

I think I'll leave it a bit longer before I update my NAS (Ubuntu Server, no GUI) to this version.

I hear they had a couple of last minute bugs and even had to re-spin on release day because of a GRUB/dual boot issue.

Edited by Daz555, 30 April 2010 - 11:23 AM.

[David Horvath]

Daz555, on Apr 30 2010, 12:22, said:

I think I'll leave it a bit longer before I update my NAS (Ubuntu Server, no GUI) to this version.

I hear they had a couple of last minute bugs and even had to re-spin on release day because of a GRUB/dual boot issue.

I agree, i'll wait a few days too.

[davbren]

Although I'm very excited about the new release. I'm not sure I'll install it. I may wait for 10.10 when theres gonna be something revolutionary. Its a great alternative but in reality it doesn't touch win7. I know its petty but I like my OS to be pretty. They've managed to go some distance with what they have but its still not on par with M$ or Apple.