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i'm using 2.1 since the first offical (taiwan) rom. it's been working great for me, modaco r4 and r5 are also great, stable and smooth. the only thing that iritates me are sense fc's that i'm having now and then, once or twice a day. mostly they happen when i press back button to return back to desktop from some application (mainly android market but also others). desktop than disappears and it takes a few seconds to come back.

i installed r4 and r5 without wiping, i only wiped before flashing my first 2.1 - the official taiwan rom. i would wipe my phone again and reflash r5 if it helps. i just hesitate because it takes some time and energy to do it. does this helped anyone yet???

i know i'm not the only one with this problem and hope that somebody knows a solution for it.

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i'm using 2.1 since the first offical (taiwan) rom. it's been working great for me, modaco r4 and r5 are also great, stable and smooth. the only thing that iritates me are sense fc's that i'm having now and then, once or twice a day. mostly they happen when i press back button to return back to desktop from some application (mainly android market but also others). desktop than disappears and it takes a few seconds to come back.

i installed r4 and r5 without wiping, i only wiped before flashing my first 2.1 - the official taiwan rom. i would wipe my phone again and reflash r5 if it helps. i just hesitate because it takes some time and energy to do it. does this helped anyone yet???

i know i'm not the only one with this problem and hope that somebody knows a solution for it.

Are you using AutoKiller ?

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no, i don't use it.

Try a wipe and then flash r5 because it is recommended to wipe before flashing r5

EDIT : Does it FC's or it just restarts ?

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Try a wipe and then flash r5 because it is recommended to wipe before flashing r5

EDIT : Does it FC's or it just restarts ?

i don't think wipe is really needed when upgrading from r4 to r5 normaly. and, sadly, it also didn't help in my case.

it restarts. first i see the white screen with htc logo and then it slowly comes back.

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I don't have a solution unfortunately but I am seeing the same issue. I'm getting fairly frequent spontaneous restarts of Sense when returning to the home screens from an app (i.e pressing back or home). These are not FCs, it looks like Sense is being quietly killed by Android's memory management while it's in the background. I did a wipe before installing r5, and I'm not using Autokiller or any other app/memory management tweaks.

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i don't think wipe is really needed when upgrading from r4 to r5 normaly. and, sadly, it also didn't help in my case.

it restarts. first i see the white screen with htc logo and then it slowly comes back.

Are you using any kind of task manager which automatically kills task when a specified amount free RAM is left, because in your case HTC Sense is killed and then it is restarted, that's the same problem I'm facing but I have manged to adjust the RAM usage so it does kill it sometimes but it's ok.

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Are you using any kind of task manager which automatically kills task when a specified amount free RAM is left, because in your case HTC Sense is killed and then it is restarted, that's the same problem I'm facing but I have manged to adjust the RAM usage so it does kill it sometimes but it's ok.

no, i don't use any app of such kind. is it possible that there's some script doing this installed together with r5 rom?

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no, i don't use any app of such kind. is it possible that there's some script doing this installed together with r5 rom?

Then it can be a problem because of some app :)

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Same problem here on a freshly wiped phone, installed vr12 in the end.

so, do you experience the same issue on vr12 or not?

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Then it can be a problem because of some app :)

i'm investigating this rihgt now. then it must be some app that always runs in the background...

@steveh2, @Drhotdog:

do any of you maybe use LockBot?

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i'm investigating this rihgt now. then it must be some app that always runs in the background...

@steveh2, @Drhotdog:

do any of you maybe use LockBot?

Nope, I haven't even heard of that app.

It is does seem that what is happening is that the phone is running low on memory and killing apps, but that's the way Android is supposed to work and that's always happened all the time. Android has an algorithm for deciding what the lowest priority apps are and killing them first, the real question here is what's changed to cause Sense to regularly be considered lowest priority when it wasn't happening before.

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i'm investigating this rihgt now. then it must be some app that always runs in the background...

@steveh2, @Drhotdog:

do any of you maybe use LockBot?

Nope, I haven't even heard of that app.

It is does seem that what is happening is that the phone is running low on memory and killing apps, but that's the way Android is supposed to work and that's always happened all the time. Android has an algorithm for deciding what the lowest priority apps are and killing them first, the real question here is what's changed to cause Sense to regularly end up the lowest priority app still running when it wasn't happening before.

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I'm getting this issue, too.

Sometimes when I hit home, I'm met with the white HTC screen, and Sense has to reload.

To me, it seems as if it's the memory manager being a bit too aggressive.

FWIW, I've find that Twidroid is closing more often than it used to (On Android 1.5), ie after following a link (or even emailing one) from Twidroid, when I "back" to Twidroid, it has to load my timeline again, as if it had been killed.

Maybe there is just less available RAM in Android 2.1? Or has the mem manager been set a little more aggressively?

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Vr12 is fine, haven't heard of lockbot.

That is because it's memory management has been modified which kills more empty apps than other apps.

I'll suggest all you guys to install AutoKiller and set the preset to 'Optimum' and try using your phones after that :)

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That is because it's memory management has been modified which kills more empty apps than other apps.

I'll suggest all you guys to install AutoKiller and set the preset to 'Optimum' and try using your phones after that :)

let's give it a try...

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That is because it's memory management has been modified which kills more empty apps than other apps.

I'll suggest all you guys to install AutoKiller and set the preset to 'Optimum' and try using your phones after that :)

i just had my first sense fc since i've installed autokiller and set it to optimum.

i'll later upload a log file here from the time that happened. i hope someone will find something useful in it...

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i just had my first sense fc since i've installed autokiller and set it to optimum.

i'll later upload a log file here from the time that happened. i hope someone will find something useful in it...

But are the FC's less as compared to before installation of AutoKiller

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But are the FC's less as compared to before installation of AutoKiller

it's hard to say, because it only hapens one to three times a day...

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here's the log. fc happened at 17.59. i don't know if someone could tell something from this:

07/12/2010 17:59:14 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) Rosie launcher will have a 32MB heap

07/12/2010 17:59:14 [WARNING] dalvikvm(26336) Refusing to reopen boot DEX '/system/framework/com.htc.framework.jar'

07/12/2010 17:59:15 [iNFORMATION] ActivityThread(26336) Publishing provider com.htc.launcher.settings: com.htc.launcher.LauncherProvider

07/12/2010 17:59:15 [WARNING] SettingUtil(26336) loadSettings(), cursor == null, content provider is not exist

07/12/2010 17:59:16 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GC freed 4630 objects / 296616 bytes in 101ms

07/12/2010 17:59:16 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GC freed 402 objects / 24520 bytes in 92ms

07/12/2010 17:59:17 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GC freed 727 objects / 58368 bytes in 93ms

07/12/2010 17:59:17 [iNFORMATION] AlertDialog(26336) [onCreate] auto launch SIP.

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:18 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:19 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GC freed 6891 objects / 374688 bytes in 185ms

07/12/2010 17:59:19 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:19 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:19 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:19 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:19 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:19 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:19 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:19 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:19 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:19 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:19 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:19 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:19 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:19 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:26 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:26 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GC freed 8019 objects / 567504 bytes in 208ms

07/12/2010 17:59:27 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GC freed 1248 objects / 56264 bytes in 113ms

07/12/2010 17:59:28 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GC freed 791 objects / 42304 bytes in 114ms

07/12/2010 17:59:28 [WARNING] WidgetFramwView(26336) Null content view

07/12/2010 17:59:28 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GetFieldID: unable to find field Ljava/util/Hashtable;.loadFactor:F

07/12/2010 17:59:28 [iNFORMATION] ContactWidgetXL(26336) Selected group is 2_VIP

07/12/2010 17:59:35 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GC freed 10132 objects / 539208 bytes in 156ms

07/12/2010 17:59:40 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GC freed 7472 objects / 395160 bytes in 189ms

07/12/2010 17:59:40 [WARNING] Rosie_3D(26336) onWorkspaceStopScroll , CurrentScreen = 1, mIsAnimation = false, mStopAnimation = false

07/12/2010 17:59:41 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GC freed 1774 objects / 129120 bytes in 313ms

07/12/2010 17:59:42 [WARNING] Rosie_3D(26336) TIME_SHOW_CURRECT_PAGE , CurrentScreen = 1

07/12/2010 17:59:44 [WARNING] Addapter(26336) info.icon:2130837554

07/12/2010 17:59:44 [WARNING] Addapter(26336) info.icon:2130837538

07/12/2010 17:59:44 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GC freed 1425 objects / 118640 bytes in 188ms

07/12/2010 17:59:47 [DEBUG] DragLayer(26336) touch event action ACTION_DOWN

07/12/2010 17:59:47 [WARNING] dalvikvm(26336) disableGcForExternalAlloc: true

07/12/2010 17:59:47 [DEBUG] DragLayer(26336) touch event action ACTION_UP

07/12/2010 17:59:48 [WARNING] dalvikvm(26336) disableGcForExternalAlloc: false

07/12/2010 17:59:48 [WARNING] Addapter(26336) info.icon:2130837525

07/12/2010 17:59:48 [VERBOSE] ContactWidgetXL(26336) handleMessage: WHAT_ON_RESUMEfalse false

07/12/2010 17:59:48 [WARNING] Addapter(26336) info.icon:2130837886

07/12/2010 17:59:48 [WARNING] Addapter(26336) info.icon:2130837509

07/12/2010 17:59:48 [WARNING] Addapter(26336) info.icon:2130837505

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07/12/2010 17:59:49 [WARNING] Addapter(26336) info.icon:2130837511

07/12/2010 17:59:49 [WARNING] Addapter(26336) info.icon:2130837524

07/12/2010 17:59:49 [WARNING] ContactWidgetXL(26336) Renew favorite contacts

07/12/2010 17:59:49 [WARNING] ContactWidgetXL(26336) Renew group contacts: 2_VIP

07/12/2010 17:59:49 [WARNING] Addapter(26336) info.icon:2130837513

07/12/2010 17:59:49 [WARNING] Addapter(26336) info.icon:2130837506

07/12/2010 17:59:49 [WARNING] Addapter(26336) info.icon:2130837522

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07/12/2010 17:59:49 [WARNING] Addapter(26336) info.icon:2130837522

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07/12/2010 17:59:51 [WARNING] Addapter(26336) info.icon:2130837593

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07/12/2010 17:59:52 [WARNING] Addapter(26336) info.icon:2130837521

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07/12/2010 17:59:52 [WARNING] Addapter(26336) info.icon:2130837678

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07/12/2010 17:59:52 [WARNING] Addapter(26336) info.icon:2130837678

07/12/2010 17:59:52 [WARNING] Addapter(26336) info.icon:2130837678

07/12/2010 17:59:52 [ERROR] ContactWidgetXL(26336) onQueryComplete....

07/12/2010 17:59:52 [DEBUG] ContactWidgetXL(26336) mContactAry size:0, current cursor size:11

07/12/2010 17:59:53 [DEBUG] Addapter(26336) text : Get more HTC widgets

07/12/2010 17:59:55 [ERROR] ActivityThread(26336) Failed to find provider info for mail

07/12/2010 17:59:55 [DEBUG] DragLayer(26336) touch event action ACTION_DOWN

07/12/2010 17:59:55 [WARNING] dalvikvm(26336) disableGcForExternalAlloc: true

07/12/2010 17:59:55 [DEBUG] DragLayer(26336) touch event action ACTION_UP

07/12/2010 17:59:55 [WARNING] dalvikvm(26336) disableGcForExternalAlloc: false

07/12/2010 17:59:57 [DEBUG] DragLayer(26336) touch event action ACTION_DOWN

07/12/2010 17:59:57 [WARNING] dalvikvm(26336) disableGcForExternalAlloc: true

07/12/2010 17:59:57 [DEBUG] DragLayer(26336) touch event action ACTION_UP

07/12/2010 17:59:57 [WARNING] dalvikvm(26336) disableGcForExternalAlloc: false

07/12/2010 17:59:57 [VERBOSE] ContactWidgetXL(26336) handleMessage: WHAT_ON_RESUMEtrue false

07/12/2010 17:59:58 [DEBUG] DragLayer(26336) touch event action ACTION_DOWN

07/12/2010 17:59:58 [WARNING] dalvikvm(26336) disableGcForExternalAlloc: true

07/12/2010 17:59:58 [DEBUG] DragLayer(26336) touch event action ACTION_UP

07/12/2010 17:59:58 [WARNING] dalvikvm(26336) disableGcForExternalAlloc: false

07/12/2010 17:59:59 [DEBUG] dalvikvm(26336) GC freed 21410 objects / 1793720 bytes in 347ms

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Add me to the list... it appears to be random and happens a couple of times a week. I press "home" and Sens has to restart.

Using r5 after a wipe. Didn't experience this in r4.

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Add me to the list... it appears to be random and happens a couple of times a week. I press "home" and Sens has to restart.

Using r5 after a wipe. Didn't experience this in r4.

same problem for me.

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Same problem here. Not FC, but Sense is restarting whenever I return from almost any program. Same is true for other apps, but this is the most annoying one. Having the browser restart on every occasion is annoying, but having to wait for the launcher all the time is rendering the phone almost useless :-/ Any hints on how to improve this are most welcome.

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