Verizon pulled navigation from bing

[Guest Dork6243]

new update available for bing on internet explorer default homepage, called bing for verizon. install to find amazing agps capabilities - lock and locate in seconds - just don't expect to use navagation as it has been replaced with a link to sign up for vznavigator - how embarrassing

[Guest bmt10]

Tried that download on a new flash, the navigation link was replaced by a vznavigator shortcut alright but it couldn't locate me...downloaded the latest bing from their website and it located me more quickly than bing ever has in the past and the navigation option was there...go figure.

Though I suppose some poor saps will get stuck with verizons version without ever knowing they can download the normal one.

Edited August 5, 2010 by bmt10

[Guest Dork6243]

yeah, when i installed from a hard reset it goes to a permissions screen just like the one from vznavigator asking what days and what times it is allowed to be located, thought nothing of it until i tried to navigate - what a bunch of crap - greedy bastards

[Guest tedkord]

yeah, when i installed from a hard reset it goes to a permissions screen just like the one from vznavigator asking what days and what times it is allowed to be located, thought nothing of it until i tried to navigate - what a bunch of crap - greedy bastards

The only thing that should surprise anyone is that Verizon has even let third party access to the GPS at all. This is the company of mandatory data plans for "3G multimedia" phones (i.e. any decent phone that is better than a 2004 clamshell). Verizon fully believes that it owns your handset, not you.

[Guest T DAWGv12]

The only thing that should surprise anyone is that Verizon has even let third party access to the GPS at all. This is the company of mandatory data plans for "3G multimedia" phones (i.e. any decent phone that is better than a 2004 clamshell). Verizon fully believes that it owns your handset, not you.

I absolutely agree with this! Despite the fact that I have verizon and I would not switch to any other carrier unless verizon vanished from existence, I HATE verizon as a company. They are basically the apple of cell phone providers. A bucnh of greedy shysters doing their best to bend their customers over every chance they get! In case anyone is wondering I personally have not had any issues with verizon. I just have a brain so I do whatever I can to subvert their shitty money grubbing tactics. If I have to deal with any more garbage VZW bullshit apps....seriously. I can't wait till I can pirate cell service RRR!

-Tyler

[Guest pw-man]

The only thing that should surprise anyone is that Verizon has even let third party access to the GPS at all. This is the company of mandatory data plans for "3G multimedia" phones (i.e. any decent phone that is better than a 2004 clamshell). Verizon fully believes that it owns your handset, not you.

Remember, there was a bit stink with the locked GPS on the original Omnia 910... that eventually was unlocked to other apps... so at least they did that.. but I wish we could turn the crank on the providers and be more European about it... open phones, pick your carrier, have a nice day...

[Guest tedkord]

Remember, there was a bit stink with the locked GPS on the original Omnia 910... that eventually was unlocked to other apps... so at least they did that.. but I wish we could turn the crank on the providers and be more European about it... open phones, pick your carrier, have a nice day...

I installed the Verizon version, just to try switching .dll files with the original and see if it enabled aGPS - but aGPS didn't work with the Verizon version on my phone. If I didn't have a GPS lock, it gave the error, "No GPS Connection." Are you sure you were getting aGPS functionality? I'm getting a pretty quick lock these days, maybe that's what you got?

[Guest pw-man]

I installed the Verizon version, just to try switching .dll files with the original and see if it enabled aGPS - but aGPS didn't work with the Verizon version on my phone. If I didn't have a GPS lock, it gave the error, "No GPS Connection." Are you sure you were getting aGPS functionality? I'm getting a pretty quick lock these days, maybe that's what you got?

hmm... I don't remember, as I packed away my 910 a while ago. I thought both aGPS and GPS were working on the 910, but I could be wrong...

[Guest Dork6243]

I installed the Verizon version, just to try switching .dll files with the original and see if it enabled aGPS - but aGPS didn't work with the Verizon version on my phone. If I didn't have a GPS lock, it gave the error, "No GPS Connection." Are you sure you were getting aGPS functionality? I'm getting a pretty quick lock these days, maybe that's what you got?

before my i910 I had a lg-vx9400, and on it I had vznavigator. when you first run navigator it goes to a permissions screen and asks when and what days it is allowed to locate. vznavigator took seconds to locate almost no waiting, and that was on an old phone. this version of bing does the same thing, asking permissions on when and what days it is allowed to locate and then locks in seconds. when it first says"allow bing to access your location?" that takes about 5 seconds then hit maps and it locates in less than 10 sec. last bing I had was nowhere near as quick

[Guest kev033]

Tried that download on a new flash, the navigation link was replaced by a vznavigator shortcut alright but it couldn't locate me...downloaded the latest bing from their website and it located me more quickly than bing ever has in the past and the navigation option was there...go figure.

Though I suppose some poor saps will get stuck with verizons version without ever knowing they can download the normal one.

I had a similar issue with Bing, not sure though it was the Bing for Verizon, but the voice recognition stopped. I was able to re-install the previous version that now works but the gps lock is slow. Can you post the link to the "latest bing from their website" that you mention, so those here can avoid being a "poor sap"?...Thanks,

[Guest tedkord]

I had a similar issue with Bing, not sure though it was the Bing for Verizon, but the voice recognition stopped. I was able to re-install the previous version that now works but the gps lock is slow. Can you post the link to the "latest bing from their website" that you mention, so those here can avoid being a "poor sap"?...Thanks,

Latest Bing mobile for winmo is here.

[Guest jaycarl]

Latest Bing mobile for winmo is here.

Thanks, was looking for that.

[Guest LordSith]

Ok, so I never use Bing, but do you Google Maps on my O2.

Anyone care to explain which is better? From what I've been reading, they sound like they both do exactly the same thing.

PS: VZNav SUCKS donkey balls. I had to use it on an old phone, and it got me so lost, always lost signal. VZNav doesn't even use GPS it uses the repeater towers to locate you. Well, if you're in the mountains (of NY) it has NO CLUE where you are. LOL

[Guest Omega Ra]

Ok, so I never use Bing, but do you Google Maps on my O2.

Anyone care to explain which is better? From what I've been reading, they sound like they both do exactly the same thing.

PS: VZNav SUCKS donkey balls. I had to use it on an old phone, and it got me so lost, always lost signal. VZNav doesn't even use GPS it uses the repeater towers to locate you. Well, if you're in the mountains (of NY) it has NO CLUE where you are. LOL

they do both do the same thing, though the bing app has a nice web search built in too, it isn't just maps. Though at the moment, Google Maps works better. Bing still needs a bit of polishing and debugging, as it will randomly freeze on me or shut down.

[Guest bmt10]

Ok, so I never use Bing, but do you Google Maps on my O2.

Anyone care to explain which is better? From what I've been reading, they sound like they both do exactly the same thing.

PS: VZNav SUCKS donkey balls. I had to use it on an old phone, and it got me so lost, always lost signal. VZNav doesn't even use GPS it uses the repeater towers to locate you. Well, if you're in the mountains (of NY) it has NO CLUE where you are. LOL

Bing has navigation for windows mobile devices while google maps only has it for androids. They're new features in both programs though and google maps will probably eventually have navigation for all platforms. Bing does have a much more user friendly search built into the program than google maps search but I still would rather just open up a web browser. Like the above poster said though bing is buggy but surprisingly it does run considerably lighter than google maps.

Edited August 10, 2010 by bmt10

[Guest LordSith]

Bing has navigation for windows mobile devices while google maps only has it for androids. They're new features in both programs though and google maps will probably eventually have navigation for all platforms. Bing does have a much more user friendly search built into the program than google maps search but I still would rather just open up a web browser. Like the above poster said though bing is buggy but surprisingly it does run considerably lighter than google maps.

What do you mean google navigation is only for droids? I use my google maps on my O2 all the time, with navigation. It helped me drive back from Ca to NY using the GPS. When we stopped for a night, I would use the GPS to pin point my location, then give me detailed navigations back to the highway we needed, then pick back up on my saved course.

I've never had a problem with my google maps. I even tried out the voice recognition in it, and it would go into the contact name I "said", grab their address from the contact details, and plot a course from wherever I was to their address.

[Guest Dork6243]

What do you mean google navigation is only for droids? I use my google maps on my O2 all the time, with navigation. It helped me drive back from Ca to NY using the GPS. When we stopped for a night, I would use the GPS to pin point my location, then give me detailed navigations back to the highway we needed, then pick back up on my saved course.

I've never had a problem with my google maps. I even tried out the voice recognition in it, and it would go into the contact name I "said", grab their address from the contact details, and plot a course from wherever I was to their address.

right, but bing gives you (or at least did) voice turn-by-turn navigation, where as google maps just gives you a route

[Guest tntopspin]

What do you mean google navigation is only for droids? I use my google maps on my O2 all the time, with navigation. It helped me drive back from Ca to NY using the GPS. When we stopped for a night, I would use the GPS to pin point my location, then give me detailed navigations back to the highway we needed, then pick back up on my saved course.

I've never had a problem with my google maps. I even tried out the voice recognition in it, and it would go into the contact name I "said", grab their address from the contact details, and plot a course from wherever I was to their address.

Google 4.1.0 DOES NOT pull up contacts via the "speak" option nor does it allow you to choose from your contacts when picking an endpoint for directions. Go ahead.... TRY to pick a contact via "speak" or as an endpoint. Not allowing me to easily access my contacts as endpoints, has led me to use Bing and I'm actually glad I tried it.

What I've found is that Bing is quite good for a traveler. Bing allows me to quickly alter my "location" for searches so I can sit in an airport in Boston and search for restaurants or businesses near my hotel in Chicago, save those places to Favorites, and access them very quickly and easily when I need them. When I reach the city. my Favorites is already loaded with a mini-itinerary of potential places to visit OR I can very easily choose a contact from the directions/navigation screen. When the trip is done, I can just delete the Favorites in one step and I'm ready for the next trip.

Google blew it when they "lost" the ability to use a contact as an endpoint AND they don't provide an easy way to save multiple locations for a trip. I suspect they thought we'd all me using "Latitude" or "Starred Items" or "MyMaps" or something, but Bing wins because it's easy and intuitive.

[Guest bmt10]

What do you mean google navigation is only for droids? I use my google maps on my O2 all the time, with navigation. It helped me drive back from Ca to NY using the GPS. When we stopped for a night, I would use the GPS to pin point my location, then give me detailed navigations back to the highway we needed, then pick back up on my saved course.

I've never had a problem with my google maps. I even tried out the voice recognition in it, and it would go into the contact name I "said", grab their address from the contact details, and plot a course from wherever I was to their address.

Google maps will give you directions yes but it on androids and bing on winmos will work just like a "normal" dedicated gps device. I believe they also do voice commands for adjusting the navigation.

I used to prefer google maps for just looking up locations but I switched over to bing when I couldn't add a pin to the map if the connection was laggy and it timed out before it could locate the address...bing lets you put a pin anywhere without needing a address for that specific point, and frankly it's a lot easier to search in it.

Edited August 11, 2010 by bmt10

[Guest LordSith]

< To many to quote here LOL >

I'm not sure what version I'm using of Google Maps, but I know when I was coming back from CA, I was able to add favorites, locate gas stations and such, and "move" the "pin" around.

If Bing works like a standard GPS and gives audio directions, then that's a pretty cool feature coming from a "phone" LOL

Thanks to everyone for clearing all this up for me. I think I'm going to have to get the official Bing release that was posted here and give it a run. :-)

[Guest amdzero]

< To many to quote here LOL >

I'm not sure what version I'm using of Google Maps, but I know when I was coming back from CA, I was able to add favorites, locate gas stations and such, and "move" the "pin" around.

If Bing works like a standard GPS and gives audio directions, then that's a pretty cool feature coming from a "phone" LOL

Thanks to everyone for clearing all this up for me. I think I'm going to have to get the official Bing release that was posted here and give it a run. :-)

google maps, and bing are free programs that provide quite a lot for "FREE".

But I still fall back to my Garmin XT for Windows Mobile. Not Free, but it has traffic updates, and looks JUST like my Garmin nuvi, only its faster and has Google search built in!!!

[Guest Omega Ra]

google maps, and bing are free programs that provide quite a lot for "FREE".

But I still fall back to my Garmin XT for Windows Mobile. Not Free, but it has traffic updates, and looks JUST like my Garmin nuvi, only its faster and has Google search built in!!!

yeah for navigation I am using iGO Primo with 2009 q4 maps :D