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[tedkord]

jaycarl, on Sep 24 2010, 10:46, said:

I have never used the widget store. What is the difference between widget store and marketplace?

I've never used the widget store, either, but I'm pretty sure it's just a place to get new widgets for TouchWIZ. Since TouchWIZ (IMO) sucks and is slow and laggy, I use SPB MS3.5. Why would I want to buy more slow and laggy?

[urphonesux]

when i first installed the latest update i was able to cruise thru the widget store with no problem.
There were alot but i didnt find anything i needed. Mostly silly stuff

[Snow02]

With the update downloaded widgets just don't install. But this has already been discussed in this thread, I was just making sure he was aware.

[jaycarl]

Thanks for the info guys. I too use MS3.5.5, works great on the O2.

Guess the widget store was designed for people who use touchwiz. Still not sure who would want to do that though.

[teege51]

jaycarl, on Sep 24 2010, 13:46, said:

Thanks for the info guys. I too use MS3.5.5, works great on the O2.

Guess the widget store was designed for people who use touchwiz. Still not sure who would want to do that though.

   Widgets and Touch Wiz use less resources. I would certainly try Touch Wiz again should the new widgets become available.
IMO, there are plenty of widgets available to accomplish many tasks both useful and not...
   -The main difference between SPB-MS and Touch Wiz, is that SPB MS is a resource hog....yet I too still use it because of overall integration. There are many things about SPB-MS that i don't like, and because it cannot access proprietary hardware control (samsung and all handset manufacturers effectively prevent this). Also, Touch Wiz is more akin to Droid and iPhone OS's in that there is a less integrated or centralized GUI....instead, control is more individualized 'App'-oriented.
  ( I am not referring to overall systems integration which Droid/iPhone OS are superior, but to integration OF all the Apps into a GUI.)
There lies the rub...  MS-SPB sucks up resources because it is always running as an interface between the user and the system hardware. Touch Wiz uses less resources because it has proprietary control of system hardware, and if there are enough 'widgets' (apps), can be more user friendly, configureable, and useful.

Fortunately or unfortunately, SPB and TouchWiz must also integrate with WinMo...adding yet another layer of interface to cause lag and/or GUI conflicts. The 'fortunate' aspect to this is: WinMo is highly adaptable to custom Roms.

-  WM7 is attempting to address all these issues much the same way Win7 integrates PC systems....the CAVEAT is that handset and hardware manufacturers MUST relinquish proprietary rights and conform to standardized WM7 drivers.
IF this can be accomplished/partnered, then ONLY THE HARDWARE will differentiate handsets and performance.

[Ryoukoe]

I am sure that I am missing it somewhere but I have done a lot of searching with no luck so I will ask here...I currently have a rom of ninja's loaded on my phone but want to try out the new update from verizon...how do I install it? I downloaded but it seems that activesync does not work with my phone ><.

[xlightwaverx]

Try removing the drivers?

The MIT Drivers that is?

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Ryoukoe, on Sep 26 2010, 04:04, said:

I am sure that I am missing it somewhere but I have done a lot of searching with no luck so I will ask here...I currently have a rom of ninja's loaded on my phone but want to try out the new update from verizon...how do I install it? I downloaded but it seems that activesync does not work with my phone ><.

[Corki2]

Well, I was so unhappy about the widget situation that I ordered an LG Ally to see if I would like Android. (I got it free, so no reason not to).  Here's the irony.  I'm lovin' the Ally and all the cool apps you can get from the "Market". Then I get an OTA system update and install the update. Guess what? Some of the Android widgets are now broken!  They have not been able to get it resolved either. So for those of you who might be thinking the grass is greener in the Android pasture.....  Meanwhile, I'm thinking about giving up widgets.  Is there a twelve step program for that?  

[abuttio]

So, what's the story with DG21? Is it pulled for being defective?

[Snow02]

Looks like it. If you want to download it anyways, check the link in my sig. It seems the only defective part is the widget store, so if you don't use that, go ahead. Wow, it's not showing up in my sig. Here's the link.

Edited by Snow02, 29 September 2010 - 08:18 PM.

[johncal]

Snow02, on Sep 29 2010, 15:15, said:

Looks like it. If you want to download it anyways, check the link in my sig. It seems the only defective part is the widget store, so if you don't use that, go ahead. Wow, it's not showing up in my sig. Here's the link.

Here's the fix for the DG21 broken Widgets straight from Samsung Tech dept.

Attached Files

•  i920_WidgetPlusUpdate.cab   81.58K   36 downloads

[Corki2]

johncal, on Sep 29 2010, 17:46, said:

Here's the fix for the DG21 broken Widgets straight from Samsung Tech dept.

This works! Yay!! Thank you!!!!!

[snave7]

Awesome!! Thanks for posting it.

[amdzero]

They only thing they screwed up was:

WidgetPlus.dll
WidgetPlus.swf

If you take them from DC23 you won't have a problem anymore.

[snave7]

Finally Samsung released the ROM update SCH-i920_User_Upgrade_Tool_DG21_V1.0.2.3.  I downloaded it this morning , but when I went back to download  the instructions the download page was down.  Im sure it's overloaded with download requests right now. Im guessing the only difference from 1.0.2.1 will be the widget fix.

Edited by snave7, 02 October 2010 - 01:57 AM.

[amdzero]

snave7, on Oct 1 2010, 21:30, said:

Finally Samsung released the ROM update SCH-i920_User_Upgrade_Tool_DG21_V1.0.2.3.  I downloaded it this morning , but when I went back to download  the instructions the download page was down.  Im sure it's overloaded with download requests right now. Im guessing the only difference from 1.0.2.1 will be the widget fix.

Well I guess I'll have to d/l this and see what has changed.  I'll post the results when I get a change, right now with 50Mbps download speed its going to take a while.

[snave7]

amdzero, on Oct 1 2010, 18:15, said:

Well I guess I'll have to d/l this and see what has changed.  I'll post the results when I get a change, right now with 50Mbps download speed its going to take a while.

Thanks amdzero, I was kinda hoping you would check it out.  I won't bother updating if its just the widgets.

[amdzero]

As far as the "version" its still 21906 just like DG21, but they did update the CSC to i920.DI16

I'll post back later with a more thorough report.

Update:
Well that was a waste of time, the DG21 update from September and the DG21 update from Today are IDENTICAL.  bit for bit they are exactly the same (PDA wise).

They ONLY changed the CSC and I don't know why, but this seems to have fixed the widget problem.  Again NO FILES were changed from the update last month, only the CSC portion of the rom.

I suggest only updating if you either DON'T have DG21 (September) or you want widgets to work and don't want to use a custom rom.

Edited by amdzero, 02 October 2010 - 04:52 AM.

[snave7]

amdzero, on Oct 1 2010, 20:32, said:

As far as the "version" its still 21906 just like DG21, but they did update the CSC to i920.DI16

I'll post back later with a more thorough report.

Yeah, I was hoping Samsung rearranged the ROM exes to give us a little more ram.  It seems like they could offload some of the non essential stuff to 8 gig storage.  I guess i should look at some of the cooked roms if I want that kind of modification. I wait for your final report before I update.  Thanks again.


I guess I will do the update so i don't have to worry about reinstalling the widget fix after a H/R.

Edited by snave7, 02 October 2010 - 04:59 AM.

[snave7]

amdzero, on Oct 1 2010, 20:32, said:

As far as the "version" its still 21906 just like DG21, but they did update the CSC to i920.DI16

I'll post back later with a more thorough report.

Update:
Well that was a waste of time, the DG21 update from September and the DG21 update from Today are IDENTICAL.  bit for bit they are exactly the same (PDA wise).

They ONLY changed the CSC and I don't know why, but this seems to have fixed the widget problem.  Again NO FILES were changed from the update last month, only the CSC portion of the rom.

I suggest only updating if you either DON'T have DG21 (September) or you want widgets to work and don't want to use a custom rom.

if I understand you right, why didn't the two files in the widget cab fix show up modified?

Edited by snave7, 02 October 2010 - 07:32 AM.