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[fradleyp]

flibblesan, on Oct 6 2010, 20:18, said:

Instructions are written by Paul on the first page of this thread.

sorry mate just re read, didn't see it first time round

[fradleyp]

sweet backing up now, I love stuff like this. Can't wait for my 16GB to arrive.

so in future R's would I just select load update.zip?

[flibblesan]

fradleyp, on Oct 6 2010, 20:32, said:

sweet backing up now, I love stuff like this. Can't wait for my 16GB to arrive.

so in future R's would I just select load update.zip?

Yep thats the plan  

[fradleyp]

That is very cool, if we could get froyo this phone would be the dogs dangly bits

[Fransis.co]

stuartmc, on Oct 6 2010, 19:40, said:

After I try the Dell Streak recovery do I need to go through the fastboot (power on and volume up at the same teime etc) sequence again to reinstall/flash the clockwork recovery boot routine.

It would appear not.
I installed RomManager and made a backup after flashing the Clockwork Recovery. Just ignore the `must have Clockwork` message and make a backup.
Back into RomManager, select the Streak backup and exit.
Going back into RomManager I was able to Select/Manage my previous backup made earlier today.

Saves flashing the Clockwork twice.

Francis.co

[rjm2k]

Fransis.co, on Oct 6 2010, 21:17, said:

It would appear not.
I installed RomManager and made a backup after flashing the Clockwork Recovery. Just ignore the `must have Clockwork` message and make a backup.
Back into RomManager, select the Streak backup and exit.
Going back into RomManager I was able to Select/Manage my previous backup made earlier today.

Saves flashing the Clockwork twice.

Francis.co

Did you already have a clockwork directory on the sd from a previous phone?

If the file is still needed it should be possible to just create it rather than installing a wrong recovery first

Name
/sdcard/clockworkmod/.settings

Contents
{"is_clockworkmod":true,"current_recovery_version":"2.5.0.1","readonly_recovery":false,"recovery_timestamp":1286383549874,"detected_device":"streak","reboot_recovery":""}

[Fransis.co]

rjm2k, on Oct 6 2010, 21:21, said:

Did you already have a clockwork directory on the sd from a previous phone?

If the file is still needed it should be possible to just create it rather than installing a wrong recovery first

Name
/sdcard/clockworkmod/.settings

Contents
{"is_clockworkmod":true,"current_recovery_version":"2.5.0.1","readonly_recovery":false,"recovery_timestamp":1286383549874,"detected_device":"streak","reboot_recovery":""}

No, I didn`t have a  previous clockwork directory.
Your right, must be a better way than to install a ghost recovery. I`m new to all this.  

Fr.

[rjm2k]

Fransis.co, on Oct 6 2010, 21:17, said:

It would appear not.
I installed RomManager and made a backup after flashing the Clockwork Recovery. Just ignore the `must have Clockwork` message and make a backup.
Back into RomManager, select the Streak backup and exit.
Going back into RomManager I was able to Select/Manage my previous backup made earlier today.

Saves flashing the Clockwork twice.

Francis.co

I missread, so you are sayins you flashed clockwork (for streak) through rom manager and then did a backup using that version?  I guess that's possible, I assume the list of recoveries rom manager gives you is somehow based on a match of some kind based on your hardware.  You probably wouldn't be able to boot directly into that recovery and use it though

[Fransis.co]

No, t`other way `round.
Flashed the Blade Clockwork Recovery -
Installed RomManager -
Made a Recovery backup -
Installed the Streak Recovery -
RomManager now gives access to the Recovery (Blade) backup made earlier.

I haven`t tried a recovery from the SDCard, do you think it would work ?

Fr.

Edited by Fransis.co, 06 October 2010 - 09:03 PM.

[PaulOBrien]

rjm2k, on Oct 6 2010, 19:01, said:

more good news, we have a boot key sequence!

ftm mode now gives us recovery but the keys dont work, something paul can fix i hope, power on and vol -

enjoy

Good call, I reckon I can do something with this!

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[PaulOBrien]

Hmm, the system is definitely going into some kind of special mode (no keypad, no USB) on powering on with volume down pressed... could be challenging to make it do anything useful.

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[rjm2k]

Paul, on Oct 7 2010, 09:18, said:

Hmm, the system is definitely going into some kind of special mode (no keypad, no USB) on powering on with volume down pressed... could be challenging to make it do anything useful.

P

If you can detect this FTM mode, can you then do a reboot into proper recovery?

alternatively

Is the SD there, if so then it could be used for some kind of last chance disaster recovery if you can detect this mode, eg flash any MCRi image which is on the sd card, maybe even a boot image too?  Maybe from a seperate /sdcard/disaster  directory

The biggest issue that a boot key sequence into recovery helps with is when you can't boot normally and haven't got access to a pc like when you are on holiday, the options above might help with that and at least get you in a position where you can restore a backup.

Edited by rjm2k, 07 October 2010 - 08:35 AM.

[PaulOBrien]

Yeah, and therein lies the problem, detecting FTM mode.

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[PaulOBrien]

For now i'm trying to determine whether I can just always reboot into recovery, but even that is proving troublesome atm...

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[rjm2k]

Paul, on Oct 7 2010, 09:54, said:

For now i'm trying to determine whether I can just always reboot into recovery, but even that is proving troublesome atm...

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can you do it by testing how many usb devices are there, or if the usb controller device is there etc?

I guess if sd is there then whether or not you have booted into proper recovery you can write a file out and force boot into what you know is proper recovery, detect/remove the file and not force a reboot again?

ie

FTM Mode
if not file exists then
  create file
  reboot recovery
else 'should never be hit in ftm mode
remove file
carry on
endif

proper recovery Mode
if not file exists then 'hit 1st time into recovery
  create file
  reboot recovery
else 'hit 2nd time into recovery and 1st time into recovery after ftm
remove file
carry on
endif

Edited by rjm2k, 07 October 2010 - 09:24 AM.

[PaulOBrien]

DONE IT!

New version coming later today.

*pats self on back*



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[rjm2k]

Paul, on Oct 7 2010, 10:29, said:

DONE IT!

New version coming later today.

*pats self on back*



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great, what was the solution?

[PaulOBrien]

Writing a temporary custom recovery that dumped the contents of /sys to a file, running it 'volume' down, running it 'normally', comparing the 2 files to find the difference in the 'volume down' start, then modifying the recovery startup script to 'reboot recovery' if it detects it's in that mode.

Huzzah!

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[rjm2k]

Paul, on Oct 7 2010, 10:34, said:

Writing a temporary custom recovery that dumped the contents of /sys to a file, running it 'volume' down, running it 'normally', comparing the 2 files to find the difference in the 'volume down' start, then modifying the recovery startup script to 'reboot recovery' if it detects it's in that mode.

Huzzah!

P

interesting, I wonder where the different /sys comes from, another ramdisk hidden away for FTM mode?  wonder if it's the mystery "oem"/"persist" partition?

[PaulOBrien]

No, that comes from the kernel...

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