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I have a set of bose mobile ear phones, which I didn't know it was for iphones! When I plug it into my SF the sound is quiet and if I press the mic button it is louder.

Anyone know of a converter that changes the iphone pin out to the standard TRRS pin out? All I can find is the opposite.

Or will these work as it is just the mic and ground that are swapped supposedly

Edited by sikhcentral, 13 October 2010 - 01:46 PM.

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I have ipod earphones and it goes quiet with them too. The wierd thing is that even with stock my phone is quiet and I use it as a music device so need to make choices and fast.

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It might be this that we need....

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...=item35ab72183f

I have noticed that on the ipod earphones it's a different connection alough they are both TRRS on mine.

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I have a set of bose mobile ear phones, which I didn't know it was for iphones! When I plug it into my SF the sound is quiet and if I press the mic button it is louder.

Anyone know of a converter that changes the iphone pin out to the standard TRRS pin out? All I can find is the opposite.

Or will these work as it is just the mic and ground that are swapped supposedly


Pretty sure its using the same pinout/wiring as a nokia phone which isnt compatible with iphone headsets ( i think the right channel and mic ar the wrong way round)

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Pretty sure its using the same pinout/wiring as a nokia phone which isnt compatible with iphone headsets ( i think the right channel and mic ar the wrong way round)

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You're right - I've used my SanFran with my old Nokia headphone/mic adapter.

Why have Apple gone and screwed with the connection though - surely the left/right/ground should always be in the same place?

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It might be this that we need....

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...=item35ab72183f

I have noticed that on the ipod earphones it's a different connection alough they are both TRRS on mine.


I bought this and just received it today!!!!!!!!!!

But it doesn't work argh!!!! makes it louder but only one channel is working argh I hate apple!!!!!!!

I might have to make one up myself!

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Anyone got a working solution for the loudness???

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Anyone got a working solution for the loudness???


I think there might besome kind of audio hack somewhere.

I ended up making my own cable which works!

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Alright, so it's the cable issue, what's the audio like on yours with stock earphones as it still is quiet on mine with stock earphones.

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well i am used to smartphones in general being quiet so to me it is about normal, but i would like it to go louderby about 33%

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I think there might besome kind of audio hack somewhere.

I ended up making my own cable which works!


If you made your own cable, any guides on how to make one? or buy a converter from somewhere?

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If you made your own cable, any guides on how to make one? or buy a converter from somewhere?

We had the excact same problem with the Pulse Mini. It's to do with something incredibly annoying. This might help

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It might be this that we need....

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...=item35ab72183f

I have noticed that on the ipod earphones it's a different connection alough they are both TRRS on mine.


That's an iPhone to iPhone adapter that exists purely because the older iPhones had recessed jacks and regular headsets were too thick to fit into it. This adapter allows you to fit a regular headset into the recessed area.

What you want is an adapter that undoes the iphone only wiring and turns it into a more 'standardized' pin-out. (Standardized only in that previous wiring for TRS jacks going back 40 yrs used one pin-out while the iPhone has changed that up and almost all products are now iPhone only, a new standard)

This is more like what you want: http://www.kvconnect...-354r3m-r2f.htm

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Hey guys I got my earphones designed for iphones to work by swaping the ground and mic wires over.

The normal TRRS connectors have Tip/Ring/Ring/Sleave which translates into something like this: Left/Right/Mic/Ground.

Apple being so innovative swapped mic and ground to something like this: Right/Left/Ground/Mic.

So you can get a cable to swap the ground and mic over but the one I bought on ebay didnt work. This is because the female jack was a 3 point not 4 point. You need to make sure the converter is 4 pin male to 4 point female with the mic and ground swapped over.

The Left and Right are also swapped but at least it works....I hope this makes sence the phone is not at fault here using other 4 point jack earphones from other brands such as apple or nokia will probably not work as they use a different system not the standard one.

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Hey guys I got my earphones designed for iphones to work by swaping the ground and mic wires over.

The normal TRRS connectors have Tip/Ring/Ring/Sleave which translates into something like this: Left/Right/Mic/Ground.

Apple being so innovative swapped mic and ground to something like this: Right/Left/Ground/Mic.

So you can get a cable to swap the ground and mic over but the one I bought on ebay didnt work. This is because the female jack was a 3 point not 4 point. You need to make sure the converter is 4 pin male to 4 point female with the mic and ground swapped over.

The Left and Right are also swapped but at least it works....I hope this makes sence the phone is not at fault here using other 4 point jack earphones from other brands such as apple or nokia will probably not work as they use a different system not the standard one.


Hi there! Did you have to modify the jack on your actual headphones or did you modify an adaptor? If so, where did you get the adaptor from? I bought an iphone adaptor which had a 4 pole jack but similar to your experience, the female socket was only 3 pole. Cheers for any info as I really would like to get my new earphones working properly! : )

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i have been working on building this but im not able to find the 4pin male and female connectors in my place.

for those who have accessibility.

The connector layout is:-

from tip to the base:

For Standard Layout:
Left
Right
Mic
Ground


what apple does is:
Left
Right
Ground
Mic

Apple will not change positions of Left and Right channel at any cost since it would result innto other 3point connectors working improperly over apple devices.. I dont think apple would be that stupid

The converter will work both ways..
That is, to use apple devices with Standard headsets and to use Apple compatible headsets with standard 4point audio jack devices.

Edited by madnav, 09 February 2011 - 07:51 PM.

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I have a set of bose mobile ear phones, ... for iphones! When I plug it into my SF the sound is quiet and if I press the mic button it is louder.

Anyone know of a converter that changes the iphone pin out to the standard {Blade/SanFran socket} pin out?


This adaptor plugs into the Blade/SanFran and takes an iPhone headset.
It is reported to work but it costs $17.50 http://www.kvconnect...s...2F&CartID=1
reported here
http://android.modac...p...t&p=1533994

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This adaptor plugs into the Blade/SanFran and takes an iPhone headset.
It is reported to work but it costs $17.50 http://www.kvconnect...s...2F&CartID=1
reported here
http://android.modac...p...t&p=1533994


Yes, seen this cable but at $17.50 plus whatever postage is makes the adaptor more expensive than the headset that I want to use!! hence, I was looking for a cheapo solution to get me going. Sounds like I may have to strip the jack on the headphones themselves and swap the mic and ground wires over to get the headset to work correctly with the SF!!! :P Otherwise, it's buy another earphone set with no mic and plug that into the Nokia mic lead that I also have but wanted to avoid having to manage the excessive length of cable. Thanks for responding though!

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it's strange when i put the sf headset in computer i hear the music but not the voices :P
no it's not a problem with the pc because my nokia headset works well

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it's strange when i put the sf headset in computer i hear the music but not the voices :P
no it's not a problem with the pc because my nokia headset works well

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