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Hi,

I bought one of these phones yesterday and the main 2 things I use MS Operating system devices on have been discontinued.

a) Activsync does not work so I can't sync my works calender up from OutLook

:P Cab files don't work, in fact I can't even transfer any files apart from Video and Music using Zune.

I'm very unhappy.

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Hi,

I bought one of these phones yesterday and the main 2 things I use MS Operating system devices on have been discontinued.

a) Activsync does not work so I can't sync my works calender up from OutLook

:P Cab files don't work, in fact I can't even transfer any files apart from Video and Music using Zune.

I'm very unhappy.



Without wanting to appear unkind, it would appear you've done very little research into the new OS before buying your phone. I'll try to address your issues though (the ones to do with WP7 at least):

A) ActiveSync is no longer the synchronisation method. You should use the Zune Desktop software from the Microsoft website (version 4.7 onwards will be available internationally), use Windows Live for synchronisation, or speak to your IT department at work about Exchange ActiveSync details.

:D Cab files don't work. Indeed. You'll need to make purchases or downloads from the Marketplace. This is the way the market is going, sadly. I expect there will eventually be a method for businesses to side-load custom applications to their devices, but for now you'll need to use the marketplace and Zune desktop.

Enjoy.

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Without wanting to appear unkind, it would appear you've done very little research into the new OS before buying your phone. I'll try to address your issues though (the ones to do with WP7 at least):

A) ActiveSync is no longer the synchronisation method. You should use the Zune Desktop software from the Microsoft website (version 4.7 onwards will be available internationally), use Windows Live for synchronisation, or speak to your IT department at work about Exchange ActiveSync details.

:P Cab files don't work. Indeed. You'll need to make purchases or downloads from the Marketplace. This is the way the market is going, sadly. I expect there will eventually be a method for businesses to side-load custom applications to their devices, but for now you'll need to use the marketplace and Zune desktop.

Enjoy.


Hi, You are correct, should have looked into this before as above is my main 2 things I use. Can't use Exchange as their is no way in unless the phone allows ftp connections, which it appears it does not. I'm only interested in Calender Sync, is their no way I can do this without using my data connection and vpn ?

Cab files ovouisly I used alot and having to purchase everthing through marketplace is going to kill me as I love things like TomTom navigation.

No SD Slot either, that's poor, does the HD7 have SD Slot ?

Thankyou for your time.

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No WP7 phone will have an sd port, this means HD7 does not have one.

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where did you get it from Adrian?

i've yet to find anywhere i can get one & am determined not to break and buy the PAYG HD7 from O2!

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where did you get it from Adrian?

i've yet to find anywhere i can get one & am determined not to break and buy the PAYG HD7 from O2!



Hi, I bought it from Orange Store, they have plenty, I also seen them in 3 stores. I paid a premium though, 40PM * 18 Months + £50.

T-Mobile offering a better deal

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Hi, I bought it from Orange Store, they have plenty, I also seen them in 3 stores. I paid a premium though, 40PM * 18 Months + £50.

T-Mobile offering a better deal



dude same deal on t-mob

http://www.t-mobile....mobile-tariffs/ except u get a flexible booster

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dude same deal on t-mob

http://www.t-mobile....mobile-tariffs/ except u get a flexible booster


and more minutes, I only get 600. I beleive the internet is only 750MB also, where T-Mobile have a better limit and it's fair use.

Should be a T-Mobile rep.

If I can just get TomTom on my phone and syncing calender with Outlook, i'll be happy again.

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tmob fup is 1gb, so yeh slightly better with extra bolt on and a lil more data

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No WP7 phone will have an sd port, this means HD7 does not have one.


Not true, then do have them and some devices are more accessible than others.
The problem is they are non removable and removing them will cause a hard reset as there is now just one storage and not lots of seperate units as in the older WM devices.

Outlook does need to be addressed though as I'm pretty screwed without it.

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I expect there will eventually be a method for businesses to side-load custom applications to their devices, but for now you'll need to use the marketplace and Zune desktop.


As of the last tech day I went to( 16th April) the only way was using a 'developer' mode to test apps, not designed for actual deployment. There were quite a few q's about this and Microsoft were adament the only way to get your custom app deployed in the field was to publish it to market place. Que lots of sharp intakes of breath in tha auditorium....

M.S

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For now to solve the calender sync issue i've joind google calender which syncs with outlook fine and then pulled the google account easily using the windows phone. A bit about the bush and it's costing me data, which is not good. But until a better resolution. It will do.

Please MS, I want Tom Tom, its not fair, bring us back cab file loading and activesync and ill be happy.

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MS is not stopping you from using TomTom, TomTom are stopping you until they make a compatible version.
Activesync will not happen and the same with cab files I expect, but technically you don't need cab files when the only compatible apps at the moment are on the Market Place.

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MS is not stopping you from using TomTom, TomTom are stopping you until they make a compatible version.
Activesync will not happen and the same with cab files I expect, but technically you don't need cab files when the only compatible apps at the moment are on the Market Place.



I guess you are right, does seem silly being forced to use data allowance to sync calender etc, anything that works via usb data cable would be fine for me. Theirs no setup allowing ftp connection either, I'm sure i saw it on my Omnia 2.

Considering my solution is Google, surely MS should be thinking, don't like that solution must sort that out.

I have apps on my Omnia 2 that are useless now, I likes being able to plug it in and then drag and drop files of my choice to it. I know MS are clamping down but the whole reason I likes Windows Phones were ease of use and not being clamped down on. To me, MS are going the apple way as Zune is basically ITunes as far as I see.

BTW, Surely i'm not the only one with one of these phones, perhaps i'm just the first poster on the forum

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I got my Omnia 7 today.

Just finished charging it. Giving it a quick play with after work. Fingers crossed its all good :P

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Hi all!
How can I get one? Is there anybody that can buy/ship it to me?
...not for free of course...:P

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its a great phone!

I'm really happy with the os, i'm actually please that the buggy active sync and installing cab files have gone well done ms!

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With Outlook and the calender, contacts and email, you can sync this to a Hotmail/Live account and then sync over the air.
Remeber you can sync using a data plan but you can also do it when connected to a WiFi or USB at home etc.

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Hey all,

Im researching WP7s and looking for my first. What phone do you you guys suggest? It looks to me like either the Dell Venue or Omnia, but neither are offered on AT&T. (I spend a lot of time in Idaho and Montana so T-Mobile is not an option). Im okay to buy an unlocked one I just would like some opinions on available phones.

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maybe in near future when Nokia start to develop WM7 phones, situation for software support be better then now... WM7 phones not support WM5 and WM6.x applications and that is major minus for WM7... if you look for WM7 phone, look for HTC, LG and Samsung models....

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