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:huh: nuff said



:huh: :D :D

OH MY GOSH!!!! WTF sorry again but i had to post this, MoDaCo admin if i am doing wrong please let me know because all i want to do is let people know the truth!!!

AVOID TOSHIBA LIKE THE PLAGUE

Their forums are Severely moderated and they try to tell you its a user to user forum < BULLLLLL, Im having topics removed left right and center when it concerns anything remotley negative regarding their crap, then high ranking forum posters trying to tell me that i agree with them when they post a reply disregarding what i had said .. WTF!!

Funny how these members have appeared from knowhere now they realise how much BAD press this device is getting and trying to spout positive dribble about it when they know it has severe flaws hence it being removed from the market!!!

MoDaCo Keep up the good work, sorry if i have gone against forum rules, but it seems like this is one of the few places left where your views can be aired without moderation. :rolleyes:

Edited by tdouble, 15 November 2010 - 01:55 PM.

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Quote taken from PC Advisor site from Dixons group

"We can confirm that we have taken the Toshiba Folio off sale temporarily as we have had a high level of returns and we do not want to give our customers a bad experience of what is actually a very good product," said Anina Castle from PC World.

"We are working with Toshiba to identify what the issue is and hope to have a resolution very soon."

Toshiba confirmed it was aware of the returns and "is currently working with Dixons Retail to provide a solution".

"An update on availability will be provided in due course."

Meanwhile, Dixons, which is also owned to DSGi, has increased the price of the device to £999, in a bid to dissuade consumers from buying the device. According to a post on the MoDaCo forums, an internal memo detailed the price rise.

"There seems to be a number of issues, and not one specific issue," the memo read.


That is the sort of info we (purchasers) need to be told - Silence is not golden in this case.

Now it is out and official, all folio owners should be able to rest a little easier, reassured that Toshiba and Dixons group are at least going to do something about it.

When I wrote to PCW to air my concerns, they mailed back and asked for info about the issues from me. Can I suggest that if folio owners have issues that they think need looking at, then they forward them to one of the Dixons group customer service addresses. I used- [email protected]

I know that some of you have had balls of steel and unswerving faith in Toshiba doing something about it and refused to return it - I hope they get fixes and software out to you ASAP

This thread has turned into an 'Anne Robinson watchdog consumer group bitchy moan', when It should be a hack, flash and test fest!

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Quote taken from PC Advisor site from Dixons group
That is the sort of info we (purchasers) need to be told - Silence is not golden in this case.

Now it is out and official, all folio owners should be able to rest a little easier, reassured that Toshiba and Dixons group are at least going to do something about it.

When I wrote to PCW to air my concerns, they mailed back and asked for info about the issues from me. Can I suggest that if folio owners have issues that they think need looking at, then they forward them to one of the Dixons group customer service addresses. I used- [email protected]

I know that some of you have had balls of steel and unswerving faith in Toshiba doing something about it and refused to return it - I hope they get fixes and software out to you ASAP

This thread has turned into an 'Anne Robinson watchdog consumer group bitchy moan', when It should be a hack, flash and test fest!


Sorry but needed to get it off my chest.. Can rest now there is solid proof.. will shut my mouth.. sorry again to all who i may have offended.

Edited by tdouble, 15 November 2010 - 02:28 PM.

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When I wrote to PCW to air my concerns, they mailed back and asked for info about the issues from me.


I'm guessing these are:
1) Flash (which seems to work, but seems to still be in testing)
2) FUD

Clearly the release was rushed, but it does seem to work. Given the state of returns, flash is probably no longer a priority for Toshiba if there are other issues which need to be investigated - but are the other issues real? (and I'm not blaming you for deciding it is not the right place for your £330, just interested...)

Yeah I was pretty happy with it.

I know it sounds a bit weird to return a product that is generally ok, but yes I took it back as a precautionary measure (mostly)

Toshiba's support has been non existent, you could visualise them shrugging their shoulder as you spoke to them on the phone and I did not like the fact that you had to modify it to get a proper user experience (at least to satisfy me)
It is always true that people (I include myself) will always find time to complain about things, but will be quite silent if the are happy :rolleyes:

I do think that the Toshiba needed some complaining about - both the Launch and the implementation of the hardware and software were Vpoor.

Good luck to those of you who still have one - if they release refurbs on Morgan's for £150 I would snap one up without question. The viewsonic boys in the states are buying them, returning them and the Sears open box policy to resell in the same store is keeping quite a few of them happy :huh: $100 discount in one afternoon

Moving back to this thread - If the Vega is like the Folio (I will take an SD card with a few bits on it into PCW to help prove it :huh: ) I would probably get one - for £80 less and knowing what I know now about the Toshiba it could well be a bargain.

We will have to wait and see what the real final specs are and whether it comes with bl**dy flash or not!


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I'm guessing these are:
1) Flash (which seems to work, but seems to still be in testing)
2) FUD

Clearly the release was rushed, but it does seem to work. Given the state of returns, flash is probably no longer a priority for Toshiba if there are other issues which need to be investigated - but are the other issues real? (and I'm not blaming you for deciding it is not the right place for your £330, just interested...)


Thought about returning long and hard - As far as I was concerned it was 'faulty' I have played with quite a few of them mine, PCW Aylesbury, PCW London x 2, PCW Staples corner and they all locked up/froze on me while using them with the Toshiba Interface.

Flash - not a fault but a bloody stupid thing for Toshiba to do
FUD (Fracked Up Display?) Yeah, not good, but you need to take it home away from the store and use it before you can make a real decision - could live with it, but why should I.
Hard Buttons - bit weird beacause they are not really hardware, but they need sorting the frack out (software fix I assume)
And the bloody on/off thing (software again I assume?)

I did like it, but not enough. Just had a play with a Galaxy tab and the quality of the screen is just so much better (but we all knew that), 7 inch is too small though - isn't it?

I think I need to be locked in a room until the Advent is released or the £330 and £100 goodboy tokens are in real danger of going before the 18th.............

I want to be strong, but I insist that someone give me a good android tablet NOW!

In six months time (after lots of updates!) I hope that I did actually own a good one and just returned it too quickly :rolleyes:

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:huh: :D :D

OH MY GOSH!!!! WTF sorry again but i had to post this, MoDaCo admin if i am doing wrong please let me know because all i want to do is let people know the truth!!!

AVOID TOSHIBA LIKE THE PLAGUE

Their forums are Severely moderated and they try to tell you its a user to user forum < BULLLLLL, Im having topics removed left right and center when it concerns anything remotley negative regarding their crap, then high ranking forum posters trying to tell me that i agree with them when they post a reply disregarding what i had said .. WTF!!

Funny how these members have appeared from knowhere now they realise how much BAD press this device is getting and trying to spout positive dribble about it when they know it has severe flaws hence it being removed from the market!!!

MoDaCo Keep up the good work, sorry if i have gone against forum rules, but it seems like this is one of the few places left where your views can be aired without moderation. :rolleyes:


Oh man!!! Just spent the last hour looking at the Toshiba 'user-user' forum

Sorry if this is not appropriate but I had to post something on this.

I believe following are Toshiba employees on damage limitation, either that or TOSH has some fanatical fan boys. In fact I would go as far as saying it is the same employee as the language style is the same in all 3 :-
zackblood
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Quote from MasterG when challenged by knobby

First of all this is a user to user forum.
You will not meet anybody from Toshiba here… you can talk and discuss technology from Toshiba here but don't ask for answers from Toshiba people because you will not gety any... it's a community

Everything what I can say about this device is that it’s more powerful as other similar tablet devices… so it’s powerful if you compare it to other devices…
Flash should be supported by the Folio 100
http://www.toshiba-multimedia.com/ ...so don’t speak about bluff…

I found many informations and movies and read a lot articles about the Folio 100 and in my opinion it's great device...


I found many informations and in my opinion you are not a user :huh:

Also a MoDaCo link was moderated to 'Message was edited: wrong link has been removed'

You and knobby Keep spreading the word mate!


I have to say that if they get flash and sort the buttons, I'll keep mine. But it's disappointing that the TOSH moderator think he need to go to these lengths.

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FUD (Fracked Up Display?) Yeah, not good, but you need to take it home away from the store and use it before you can make a real decision - could live with it, but why should I.

Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt was what I actually meant. All the hype on the forums from a few very noisy individuals (but I guess that is what comes from signing an exclusive with DSG - not exactly ideal early adopter territory)

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Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt was what I actually meant. All the hype on the forums from a few very noisy individuals (but I guess that is what comes from signing an exclusive with DSG - not exactly ideal early adopter territory)


The noisy individuals may actually have helped those folio owners that decided to keep theirs.
I bet the withdrawal could be the best thing to happen to the folio - it has focused them on the fact that it is not right.

I assume you mean that the average casual DSG customer bamboozled into buying a folio, when he only came in to get a mouse mat, then complaining when flash is not on it and the screen make his eyes hurt and why oh why wont the sodding buttons work, is not the best type of early adopter?

Early adopters are early adopters - the name is on the tin - DSG exclusive or otherwise, if they want one they will get one.

They need to sell lots of these thing to decrease prices and see value in progressing the product - big high street chain stores are the ideal place to do this and then those of us that want to watch the Developers work their magic (sometimes via the odd brick or two) can rest easy that the good stable base product will be around for a while - with useful updates that the Developers can further modify.

That reminds me, I have just got to pop to PCW - I need to return a mouse mat.
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does anyone with a folio know if its compatible with any 3g internet dongles or 3's mifi.

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does anyone with a folio know if its compatible with any 3g internet dongles or 3's mifi.


I have a Mifi on 3, and it's working perfectly with ir.

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I have a Mifi on 3, and it's working perfectly with ir.

thanks

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the advent is up on the PCW site now!

and flavours of archos

http://www.pcworld.c...258762-pdt.html

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Just noticed it is still on sale in France, so it's just people in the UK who can't buy one now.

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the advent is up on the PCW site now!

and flavours of archos

http://www.pcworld.c...258762-pdt.html


:rolleyes: :huh: :huh: Now choose the right one!!

Edited by tdouble, 16 November 2010 - 01:13 PM.

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LOL! How they tease me!

Still.. its only the 8gb Archos.. I'd want the 16gb one.. which you can get online (when its in stock) for the same price they're doing the the 8gb at..

But still Tegra is lure on the Advent... and I dont like the super wide aspect of the Archos, I dont think it would be great in portrait mode for reading that narrow.

*bites fingernails*


the advent is up on the PCW site now!

and flavours of archos

http://www.pcworld.c...258762-pdt.html


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just spoke to a contact at pc world,he said they have a "provisional" date of next wednesday for the toshiba folio 100 to be back on sale.

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Mine went back last night. Its a shame, I did like it, but it was driving me mad. Just when I thought I'd got it tamed and working how I wanted it too, it would freeze or become laggy. I just wasn't prepared to risk having a device that had the plug pulled on it early.

I still think the 512MB space on the Vega will be a problem. I'm now going on the fact that once the PCW exclusive expires, and more retails offer the Folio, when it's issues are resolved, then the price will come down. Plus I might hold off and see what devices come out when Gingerbread is released and available.

I'm actually going to try and be patient now instead of buying something on its day of release!!

Lets see what happens in the next month or two!

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just spoke to a contact at pc world,he said they have a "provisional" date of next wednesday for the toshiba folio 100 to be back on sale.


that’s good news Simon. Shows that when they get their act together they can probably do it right. WhyTF did they not delay for two weeks to bring it out in a better state still amazes me.
Bet they won’t rush the next Tablet/Android product to market and you can be sure as s*** that PCW will not want a 21 day exclusive if they do :rolleyes:

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Mine went back last night. Its a shame, I did like it, but it was driving me mad. Just when I thought I'd got it tamed and working how I wanted it too, it would freeze or become laggy. I just wasn't prepared to risk having a device that had the plug pulled on it early.

I still think the 512MB space on the Vega will be a problem. I'm now going on the fact that once the PCW exclusive expires, and more retails offer the Folio, when it's issues are resolved, then the price will come down. Plus I might hold off and see what devices come out when Gingerbread is released and available.

I'm actually going to try and be patient now instead of buying something on its day of release!!

Lets see what happens in the next month or two!

Mine also went back yesterday. Shame!

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just spoke to a contact at pc world,he said they have a "provisional" date of next wednesday for the toshiba folio 100 to be back on sale.



how can they be putting it back on sale next wednesday, if it has the same software?. because the problem is not with the hardware but the software., so does this mean that tosh is releasing an upgrade to its firmware by next wednesday?
really hope they pick up on their bad UI and make at least those hardware buttons more responsive as well as the screen. I will be keeping mine until next thursday, and will see if there is any dev on tosh side, or on xda. if not then i will be using my return policy. unitl now its not been my way, so it has to be the highway then with the folio.

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