18 replies to this topic

[gremlinman]

Can anyone help me?

[wbaw]

Less is more. Just include essentials & maybe a few small simple apps. Ideally you'd want it to fit in a reduced size /system partition (122mb & 128mb are common sizes). Large apps which are available in the market should be left out, then the user can decide whether they want them or not. Any apps which get frequent updates should be left out too, because they'll use twice as much space on your phone as it keeps the old copy in /system & puts the update in /data, it creates more hassle for you updating your rom too.

Google Talk isn't available on the market, so that should be included. Blade WiFi Fix is small & doesn't seem to get updated, that could be included. Flash Light (American torch, not to be confused with Flash Lite) is also really small, useful & doesn't get updated. Youtube & Gmail are worth including too, they don't get updated often, aren't huge & most people use them. Google Maps is quite large & has frequent updates, I wouldn't include that, same for Facebook.

You'll also want the working FM Radio app, it's been posted on Modaco, use the search to find it.

Edited by wbaw, 05 February 2011 - 06:49 PM.

[gremlinman]

Thanks alot wbaw
Gremlinman


Any chance of a step by step guide on the easyiest way to make a rom?
I have looked everywhere!

Edited by gremlinman, 05 February 2011 - 10:18 PM.

[TheChill]

gremlinman, on Feb 5 2011, 10:33, said:

Can anyone help me?

Personally?  As little as possible.  The fundamental Google apps: Market, EMail, GMail, the stock Dialler, Music, Video and Gallery players, Contacts, etc.  Keep it minimal.  The rest of Google's Apps can be downloaded via Market.  

Then, if you want, install any additional apps directly from the Market.  This allows the user to easily uninstall them via Settings/Market instead of going the Term+su route of rm'ing+pm uninstall'ing any packages the user doesn't want.

Creating a satisfying custom ROM is challenging not only because you've gotta build the thing, but you've also gotta try satisfy your intended audience; the only problem with the audience, though, is that everyone is different.  So do what you can to pacify the average modder, while allowing the purists the opportunity to easily remove anything they don't want and revert as closely to a vanilla Android distribution as feasible.

[IronDoc]

wbaw, on Feb 5 2011, 19:47, said:

Less is more. Just include essentials & maybe a few small simple apps. Ideally you'd want it to fit in a reduced size /system partition (122mb & 128mb are common sizes). Large apps which are available in the market should be left out, then the user can decide whether they want them or not. Any apps which get frequent updates should be left out too, because they'll use twice as much space on your phone as it keeps the old copy in /system & puts the update in /data, it creates more hassle for you updating your rom too.

Google Talk isn't available on the market, so that should be included. Blade WiFi Fix is small & doesn't seem to get updated, that could be included. Flash Light (American torch, not to be confused with Flash Lite) is also really small, useful & doesn't get updated. Youtube & Gmail are worth including too, they don't get updated often, aren't huge & most people use them. Google Maps is quite large & has frequent updates, I wouldn't include that, same for Facebook.

You'll also want the working FM Radio app, it's been posted on Modaco, use the search to find it.

Do updated apps really take up double the room if they were in system? You can integrate the update with Titanium anyway, so it's a moot point.

I wouldn't include Blade Wifi Fix, it can be more annoying than the problem itself.

[That-Guy]

As said above really!

Just have standard apps included like Maps, Gmail, YouTube etc.

Make sure they are the latest versions

[gremlinman]

Thanks for all the replies
Almost finished my rom now
its based on modaco r7
does anyone no how to change the build number from mcr7 to my rom name?

[hecatae]

edit build.prop with a text editor.

I use dsixda's kitchen to pull roms apart

Edited by hecatae, 06 February 2011 - 12:34 PM.

[blade2011]

+1 for a slim system partition, maybe even shrinked with tpt

My Whishlist for system would contain:
- The latest gapps
- Working FM Radio
- Alarmclock with captcha support
- Root support
- Wifi Fix
- Gingerbread keyboard

My personal removal list:
- default calculator
- gtalk (the parts that may be removed without breaking the market)
- car home
- provider apps

And the things I always install but get updated to often to put them into system
- RealCalc
- Widgetsoid
- AdFree Android
- myBackup Root
- ADW Launcher
- Data counter Widget
- OI filemanager and notes
- Stopwatch & Countdown
- most important: shaver
- maps
Maybe those could come preinstalled on the userdata partition to be easily removed and updated.


cheers, blade

[Kthulhu]

For me the less apps the better, for example: if you include launcher pro it would not help people who likes ADW.

I would just like to see Titanium backup or Mybackup root  (Titanium is far more better) or other.....to make easy restore apps from rom to rom.

[Phoenix Silver]

Kthulhu, on Feb 6 2011, 14:23, said:

For me the less apps the better, for example: if you include launcher pro it would not help people who likes ADW.

I would just like to see Titanium backup or Mybackup root  (Titanium is far more better) or other.....to make easy restore apps from rom to rom.

yes minimal rom is the best
best way
install minimal rom
install your backup app
restore all your preferred apps and datas
et voila !

[beggin]

Don't include any 3rd party apps unless they are fixes.  100% stock Google Android is the way to go.

[gremlinman]

hecatae, on Feb 6 2011, 12:34, said:

edit build.prop with a text editor.

I use dsixda's kitchen to pull roms apart

Does this work with the blade rom as it says htc

[gremlinman]

hecatae, on Feb 6 2011, 12:34, said:

edit build.prop with a text editor.

Can you provide the full file path please
ive had a look for it but cant find

[jt_mcg]

gremlinman, on Feb 7 2011, 17:55, said:

Can you provide the full file path please
ive had a look for it but cant find

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[Len Ash]

gremlinman, on Feb 7 2011, 17:55, said:

Can you provide the full file path please
ive had a look for it but cant find

Suggest you give this mission a swerve... with respect.

(build.prop is in the root of /system and to say it stands out like a youth whit his pants pulled up is an understatement)

[wbaw]

IronDoc, on Feb 5 2011, 21:19, said:

Do updated apps really take up double the room if they were in system? You can integrate the update with Titanium anyway, so it's a moot point.

Yeah, the old version stays in system (it's mounted read only) & the update takes up room in /data. You can't integrate them with the free version of titanium, only with the paid for app.

[gremlinman]

Ok thanks guys!
What is the best kernal to use im stuck for choice!
Can anyone recomened one

[metzench]

What do you plan to do? Just get some experiences first, you are only around asking strange questions... Sorry but seems you should have a deeper look into the whole thing before modding one more rom that is basically one that already is fine. Or perhaps try to help some other rom devs to get theirs better. Would be nicer to have some good working ones instead of many that no one really uses.

Just my 2 cents...

Regards,
Christian