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[rockstarszzzz]

I think I spoke too early yesterday about 'excellent' standby battery operation.

I'm syncing 4 email accounts, FB, Google+, Twitter, Tapatalk, 3G all the time, No wifi, No GPS. About 50 odd text messages and 2 calls (3 mins total), No Over clocking.

I was able to pull off, 19 hours until I had 10% left. I think I might have probably gone 1 more hour max with that 10%.

It's a clean install, formatted SD card too, battery calibrated using CWM, GApps include: Market, Google Maps, Gmail.

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Edited by rockstarszzzz, 31 October 2011 - 07:11 PM.

[downloader50]

Its only got a 1250ma battery give the phone a break

turn off wifi - 3g  - bluetooth ets when your not using it

[rockstarszzzz]

downloader50, on 31 October 2011 - 07:11 PM, said:

Its only got a 1250ma battery give the phone a break

turn off wifi - 3g  - bluetooth ets when your not using it

My Toshiba TG01, with 4 inch display and 3G, wifi ON all the time and same sync schedules, on 1000ma battery gave me 24 hours. TG01 had 1Ghz snapdragon and LCD.

Don't see a point in giving this phone 'a break' - it's a smart phone (low end perhaps) but has to behave like one in ordinary situation.

Edited by rockstarszzzz, 31 October 2011 - 07:14 PM.

[downloader50]

hugobosslives, on 31 October 2011 - 07:06 PM, said:

can somebody do the following:

wipe. no gapps, no apps, just the rom and  fully calibrate it, charge then use it so the battery is below 80ish (as battery value is out above 80 odd)

then either:

wack into airplane mode for as long as possible (this may be better if you have two phones). Measure battery drop over the whole time. Dont keep checking amount, just look at the end.

Mine will manage 10 days easy like this. When i went on holiday last i left my phone at home (not in airplane. eg normal mode) and it was on 30% after a week....

If you put into airplane mode and never turn the screen on you have a glorified clock not a phone what is the point

[JolyonS]

hugobosslives, on 31 October 2011 - 06:58 PM, said:

If the battery was shite for everyone. this thread would be nuked with people complaining surely?

Alternatively if battery life was brilliant there would not be posts asking devs to do something about it.

When GSF came out it attracted huge praise for the excellent battery life it provided with several people contradicting the assertion of creator of the ROM that it was no better than CM.

I suspect the majority of Blade users tolerate the battery life and charge every day but it would be good to see a poll at least.

[JolyonS]

downloader50, on 31 October 2011 - 07:13 PM, said:

If you put into airplane mode and never turn the screen on you have a glorified clock not a phone what is the point

Because we want to find out what is causing the difference in battery life - this rules out some aspects of the software.

[sm4tik]

hugobosslives, on 31 October 2011 - 07:06 PM, said:

can somebody do the following:

wipe. no gapps, no apps, just the rom and  fully calibrate it, charge then use it so the battery is below 80ish (as battery value is out above 80 odd)

then either:

wack into airplane mode for as long as possible (this may be better if you have two phones). Measure battery drop over the whole time. Dont keep checking amount, just look at the end.

Mine will manage 10 days easy like this. When i went on holiday last i left my phone at home (not in airplane. eg normal mode) and it was on 30% after a week....

I think it's better to leave the radio on if we want to get some answers as the "Cell standby" seems to be the drainer here.. I'm just wondering if there's a setting that would make a diference if the draining actually happens with a clean install without gapps. Ofc, if the draining happens in airplane mode too, that's another story then..

Edited by sm4tik, 31 October 2011 - 07:24 PM.

[ColdEmbrace]

I noticed my battery draining I had a rouge app stopping my phone from sleeping.
Check spare parts for partial wake. Hotmail stopped my phone from sleeping. (it didn't have accounts connected or an internet connection) but it was still  killing my battery

Edited by ColdEmbrace, 31 October 2011 - 07:26 PM.

[Smiff2]

couple of things

sej's CM220+

1) batttery life (which was already ok for me) seems much better since changing CPU governor from Interactive (default in this ROM) to OnDemand (default for most ROMs)

2) Q: any significant improvements since 220+ before i flash another phone with it?

Edited by Smiff2, 31 October 2011 - 07:36 PM.

[Kamikaze.]

This is really odd. The new nightly really made it worse. I just put my frequency to 619 and 122, ondemand, I switched off data sync for test, and I can still see the battery running down, percent by percent. I've been browsing this thread with Tapatalk for 15min I guess, and my battery already decreased 20 percent. This is crazy! Hope they'll fix it! I can't even play solitaire at work anymore I guess!  Edit. Il'l see how it does without a theme enabled. Also, I found out, that Button Savior clone, Virtual Button Bar had used 8% of the battery. Lets see what happens if I disable it...

Edited by Kamikaze., 31 October 2011 - 07:49 PM.

[dirlan2001]

hugobosslives, on 31 October 2011 - 07:06 PM, said:

can somebody do the following:

wipe. no gapps, no apps, just the rom and  fully calibrate it, charge then use it so the battery is below 80ish (as battery value is out above 80 odd)

then either:

wack into airplane mode for as long as possible (this may be better if you have two phones). Measure battery drop over the whole time. Dont keep checking amount, just look at the end.

Mine will manage 10 days easy like this. When i went on holiday last i left my phone at home (not in airplane. eg normal mode) and it was on 30% after a week....

Hi,

Since last saturday I've lost 28% of battery, at home that is. Means : stable GSM signal, WiFi on 15 minutes a day to sync, 3-4 calls,  no GPS, no BT ....  During the week, it drains as fast as I drive GPS on and unstable GSM signal (while on the move) and , most important : another phone sitting nxt to it which makes GSM reception even worse. Even though I always have the phone with screen turned off, unless using the GPS.

Battery-drain is mostly due to the phone pinging the connection, when there's an unstable signal or a phone nearby, it needs more power to stay connected. When using WiFi or GPS better keep the phone on the car-charger.

All in all, I don't see any problem with the battery when using the phone for what it's meant for. If ppl are doing lots of things and games etc . (not to mention the OC-disease).... guess it's absolutely normal that they should recharge overnight. I bought the SF knowing it was a cheap low-end phone, so every minute it runs is OK to me. If one pays peanuts, one should accept peanut-time...

Just my 2c

Edited by dirlan2001, 31 October 2011 - 07:53 PM.

[targetbsp]

sm4tik, on 31 October 2011 - 07:22 PM, said:

I think it's better to leave the radio on if we want to get some answers as the "Cell standby" seems to be the drainer here.. I'm just wondering if there's a setting that would make a diference if the draining actually happens with a clean install without gapps. Ofc, if the draining happens in airplane mode too, that's another story then..

My standby time is several days if I airplane overnight only.  This is not on a clean install. I've got 86 user apps and haven't wiped since gen 2 came out.  I do however have 43 frozen CM apps and gapps I don't use.  And have others set to not auto load using Autostarts.
I usually charge every 3 or 3 days.

Over the weekend I had access to no computer and managed 48 hours 2g, data on (no 3g signal) and my screen on time was well over 3 and a half hours* - mostly using a web browser over wifi before I returned home and charged it with 17% battery left.  Those that think data on is the issue, the apps you're using has to make a difference.  All I have is an email app.  If you're a teenager (and hence under the delusion that things put on facebook are somehow time critical when 99% of it is a waste of time reading it ever ) then you've probably got all sorts of apps chucking data back and forward?

*I regrettably forgot to check the exact screen on time after my last few browsing sessions - but it was 3 and a half hours the last time I checked.

[JolyonS]

targetbsp, on 31 October 2011 - 07:52 PM, said:

 I do however have 43 frozen CM apps and gapps I don't use.  And have others set to not auto load using Autostarts.

If you could produce a list of these that would be really appreciated.

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I usually charge every 3 or 3 days.

Well which is it?!

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Those that think data on is the issue, the apps you're using has to make a difference. 

As will the strength of signal, I guess. I may have to get busy with Tasker and be more selective about where and when 3G is enabled.

[ThrashMan]

Kamikaze., on 31 October 2011 - 07:41 PM, said:

This is really odd. The new nightly really made it worse. I just put my frequency to 619 and 122, ondemand, I switched off data sync for test, and I can still see the battery running down, percent by percent. I've been browsing this thread with Tapatalk for 15min I guess, and my battery already decreased 20 percent. This is crazy! Hope they'll fix it! I can't even play solitaire at work anymore I guess!  Edit. Il'l see how it does without a theme enabled. Also, I found out, that Button Savior clone, Virtual Button Bar had used 8% of the battery. Lets see what happens if I disable it...

Blah blah blah........ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz..............

So many people posting babble and crap about nothing......sorry to pick on you Kamikaze but you're another post filling the thread with more tiresome whining bilge.

N241 came out yesterday lunchtime. You have hardly given it any form of bedding in and allowed the OS to familiarise it's self with the battery capacity drain speed.
There were so many updates in N241 that it should be treated as a new ROM and then cycle the battery properly.

This thread is not a competition to see who can find a problem the fastest. Especially when the "problem" is unfounded and based on zero effort or testing.

[sej7278]

Smiff2, on 31 October 2011 - 07:34 PM, said:

couple of things

sej's CM220+

1) batttery life (which was already ok for me) seems much better since changing CPU governor from Interactive (default in this ROM) to OnDemand (default for most ROMs)

2) Q: any significant improvements since 220+ before i flash another phone with it?

yes i found interactive to be pretty bad as far as battery life goes, ondemand is still the best - better than smartass2 even i think.

try my 24oct build (mirrored somewhere in this thread) its got all the bling of n220+ and some newer updates. note that you will probably have to reconfigure a lot of the power applet settings though (brightness etc.) and miui battery bar.

Edited by sej7278, 31 October 2011 - 08:14 PM.

[targetbsp]

lol! I've been drinking 3 or 4.

OK, here goes my list of frozen apps which I either don't use or have alternatives of:
Android Live Wallpaper
Books
Calculator
Calendar
Calendar Storage
Car Home
Clock
CM Stats
both tmobile themes
CM Update Notifications
CM Wallpapers
Dev Tools
Downloads
DSP Manager
Email
File manager
FM radio
FOTA Kill
Google Calendar Sync
Google One Time Init
Google Partner Setup
Home Screen Tips
HTML Viewer
Latin Input Method Tutorial
Live Wallpaper Picker
Magic Smoke Wallpaper
Market Apps Installer
Market Updater
Music
Music Visualization Wallpaper
My Uploads
New & Weather
Search
Search Apps Provider
Setup Wizard
SIM Toolkit
Sound Recorder
Talk
Theme Chooser
Themes Provider
Voice Dialler
VPN Services

I use GAPPS package from June (I like the old market) and only other GAPP I add is Maps. Which I have removed all startup events for using Autostarts so it only runs when I tell it to.

I also stop the following from loading on startup. These are apps I use but don't have the need to have loaded all the time:
Rom Manager
Gallery (note this app doesn't work well if its events are disabled!  I just use it only very rarely)
Bluetooth Share

My startup process on a clean boot are:
Swype
com.google.process.gapps
dialler
android system
tasker
android.process.acore
adw ex
widgestoid
settings
market
titanium backup
gallery (huh. I guess breaking it by disabling its events is kinda pointless if it finds a way to load anyway. )
cerberus
android.process.media
samba filesharing
adaway
superuser
messaging status bar

I typically run 2g with data off and manually switch to 3g and data on when I'm away from wifi and need data.
My tasker profiles that affect power are to airplane it at a set time over night and turn the wifi on and off with the screen.

On Demand CPU Governor overclocked to 729Mhz

Edited by targetbsp, 31 October 2011 - 08:16 PM.

[downloader50]

JolyonS, on 31 October 2011 - 07:20 PM, said:

Because we want to find out what is causing the difference in battery life - this rules out some aspects of the software.

That rules out all aspect of the software coz the phone is not doing anything

Edited by downloader50, 31 October 2011 - 08:19 PM.

[oxyg3n89]

of course blade is low end phone. why should i expect miracles for 80£ ? good things cost money in this world.  

rockstarszzzz, on 31 October 2011 - 07:13 PM, said:

My Toshiba TG01, with 4 inch display and 3G, wifi ON all the time and same sync schedules, on 1000ma battery gave me 24 hours. TG01 had 1Ghz snapdragon and LCD.

Don't see a point in giving this phone 'a break' - it's a smart phone (low end perhaps) but has to behave like one in ordinary situation.

Sent from my Blade using Tapatalk

Edited by oxyg3n89, 31 October 2011 - 08:58 PM.

[rockstarszzzz]

oxyg3n89, on 31 October 2011 - 08:31 PM, said:

of course blade is low end phone. why should i expect miracles for 80£ ? good things cost money in this world.



Sent from my Blade using Tapatalk

It's a low end 'smart phone' agreed!

[Isidorosis]

rockstarszzzz, on 31 October 2011 - 04:30 PM, said:

If you disabled lock screen why would you expect it to be there for you? It's only a feature useful to get around the server encryption!

Are you confusing it with 'disable PIN lock' ?

I don't say about the pin to unlock the device, but the pin of your simcard (on-off flight mode)