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the bigger screen is literally the only thing the Skate has going for it...on the downside it has the much inferior and older v6 processor. the acer even does 720p video recording. i guess it depends on what feature set is appealing, but i'd go with the liquid metal at that price point. build quality is also likely to be far superior to ZTE. check out some videos of it to see how premium the casing looks - glossy, curved and metallic sections. even custom battery/message notification LEDs on the bottom. UI and manufacturer custom UI are also super smooth - thank the capable CPU here methinks. completely unbranded and unlocked too :)

it seems to have reasonable support looking at the forum on here. leaked gingerbread builds and a pending official update (2.3.5 or later) in the near future.

currently the #1 seller on the entire of expansys @ £138.99 delivered...bargain if you ask me and people know it.

Edited by Hanks6, 05 September 2011 - 03:48 AM.

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the bigger screen is literally the only thing the Skate has going for it...on the downside it has the much inferior and older v6 processor. the acer even does 720p video recording. i guess it depends on what feature set is appealing, but i'd go with the liquid metal at that price point. build quality is also likely to be far superior to ZTE. check out some videos of it to see how premium the casing looks - glossy, curved and metallic sections. even custom battery/message notification LEDs on the bottom. UI and manufacturer custom UI are also super smooth - thank the capable CPU here methinks. completely unbranded and unlocked too :)

it seems to have reasonable support looking at the forum on here. leaked gingerbread builds and a pending official update (2.3.5 or later) in the near future.

currently the #1 seller on the entire of expansys @ £138.99 delivered...bargain if you ask me and people know it.


If you check some reviews, the reviewers don't really seem to like the build quality of the Metal.

They also said they don't liked the curved screen/back as well as the camera.

I agree the processor is superior to the skate but the battery life and the screen seem to be just about OK. Also the Modding you can do with it and the limited number of rom's you can put on it.

So for me they seem to be evenly matched :)

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The acer is also thick, bulky and heavier than the OMC or OSF....and nearly a 50% increase in price over same categorie OSF....

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i wouldn't put it in the same category as the blade...blade has a sluggish CPU compared to any reasonable handset these days. OMC is the best comparison, just depends if you want the larger screen. annoying thing is i'd probably go for the OMC below 150 (when unlockable) but only if it had a better v7 processor. that's kinda the swing factor given the liquid metal also does 720p video recording which is a useful feature for me.

the custom roms are great at times but if you have an official 2.2/2.3 that is super smooth you can save the hassle. i see changing roms to gain improved performance and whatnot as more of a chore than positive. did i mention the liquid metal is fully unbranded and unlocked...

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think i'm gonna get one.

Edited by Hanks6, 05 September 2011 - 03:22 PM.

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its easy to unbranded The OMC. Also it is going to be unlocked fairly soon hopefully

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Let us know what you make of the Liquid Metal - it seems an utter steal - am a bit tempted...

I have only had it for a few hours but so far it pwns the Skate and San Fran, performance is on part with my old sgs i9000.
Everything is super smooth, screen is very good, almost as good as my amoled san fran, not even bothered rooting it yet.
I'm having fun just on Stock 2.2

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I have only had it for a few hours but so far it pwns the Skate and San Fran, performance is on part with my old sgs i9000.
Everything is super smooth, screen is very good, almost as good as my amoled san fran, not even bothered rooting it yet.
I'm having fun just on Stock 2.2


... it's the better 3.6" smartphone but it's not an alternative to a 4.3" Skate...I suppose the real alternative would be a smartphone in the 4"inch and above categorie, and they start at above £220 for Android Smartphones....

My eyes are a little strained reading from smaller 3.5" screens and an 4.3" is a real boost

Samsung 4" inch Windows7 Omnias are going for around £220 new but they don't have android os's....

Interesting is the HTC HD2 4.3" windows6.5 phone which has a big Android rom moding community, they sell for around £200 used on ebay....

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As I dont know when an unlock is coming for OMC Im considering selling it and getting something the same size and approximate price...that only leaves me one option the HTC HD2 Leo used or from ebay...

Ive tried to find information here at modaco about Leo running Android but I cant find it...if anybody knows which section of the forum its hiding at tell me...

Id like to know if HD2 Leo works perfectly 100% in Android, i.e. all the sensors, GPS, WiFi, Camera, front Camera, Buttons, Screen, memory, battery life, etc...

There is a 2nd hand shop nearby with a nicely kept Leo selling at 160 pounds, so it would be a straight swap from OMC to HTC Leo...

Edited by dadashi, 12 September 2011 - 10:14 PM.

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As I dont know when an unlock is coming for OMC Im considering selling it and getting something the same size and approximate price...that only leaves me one option the HTC HD2 Leo used or from ebay...

Ive tried to find information here at modaco about Leo running Android but I cant find it...if anybody knows which section of the forum its hiding at tell me...

Id like to know if HD2 Leo works perfectly 100% in Android, i.e. all the sensors, GPS, WiFi, Camera, front Camera, Buttons, Screen, memory, battery life, etc...

There is a 2nd hand shop nearby with a nicely kept Leo selling at 160 pounds, so it would be a straight swap from OMC to HTC Leo...


The Leo has crap battery life and washed out screen colours. Not a match for the Skate in my opinion.

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The Leo has crap battery life and washed out screen colours. Not a match for the Skate in my opinion.


Thats not what this yutube video says here, its an HD2 Leo running CyanogenMode7 :o

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As I dont know when an unlock is coming for OMC Im considering selling it and getting something the same size and approximate price...that only leaves me one option the HTC HD2 Leo used or from ebay...

Ive tried to find information here at modaco about Leo running Android but I cant find it...if anybody knows which section of the forum its hiding at tell me...

Id like to know if HD2 Leo works perfectly 100% in Android, i.e. all the sensors, GPS, WiFi, Camera, front Camera, Buttons, Screen, memory, battery life, etc...

There is a 2nd hand shop nearby with a nicely kept Leo selling at 160 pounds, so it would be a straight swap from OMC to HTC Leo...



If you look outside Modaco you can find info about how to run android on the hd2 handset.
Link: http://www.htchd2for...oid-on-the-hd2/

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sorry, I don't know much about android....
why is flash so important? only for web surfing or also for something else?

thanks





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hello

since there is no ulock for skate I'm searching for alternatives, what do you suggest, important is that shop sells phones to EU (not only in UK) .

I'm from east europe.

Thank you.

Kind regards.

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I've ruled out HTC HD2 as an alternative. It's simply too old, even though it's a great phone.

The OMC is better with native Android Gingerbread and has everything to offer, 5MP camera with led flash, enough memory and specially the 4.3" inch screen....The next cheapest 4.3" Android smartphone starts at around £300...

and it supports flash

Edited by dadashi, 19 September 2011 - 12:22 PM.

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I have only had it for a few hours but so far it pwns the Skate and San Fran, performance is on part with my old sgs i9000.
Everything is super smooth, screen is very good, almost as good as my amoled san fran, not even bothered rooting it yet.
I'm having fun just on Stock 2.2


good stuff. this is up for pre-order for the next batch of stock at expansys @ £139.99, silver or brown version. i think ZTE have kind of missed some key features with the Skate, namely a better CPU, for it to attact anywhere near as much attention as the Blade in the 'budget' arena. right now the Acer Liquid Metal is easily the best value sub 150 android phone. they sold like crazy before, unbranded, unlocked. all good!

Edited by Hanks6, 19 September 2011 - 11:57 PM.

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@hanks6., go for it, you shouldn't regret it.
I'm still really impressed by it, I also still have not felt the need to Overclock it yet either.
It runs all games Very smoothly, including. Cordy and Stupid Zombies.
Even the camera is ok with some cool features like face recognition.

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there is one important difference in specs, acer liquid metal has 3,6" display and skate has 4,3"
this is 0,7" = 1,8 cm - it's quite big difference

acer is fine phone, I'm also considering to buy it, but would prefere zte skate - bigger display

we need unlock :D

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i think it's fair to say there really isn't an alternative to the Skate for a 'big screen' budget Android handset. users who can't live without the larger screen haven't got much choice sub 200, but that's literally the selling point over the Liquid Metal. after owning a Blade i'm biased toward something with the best possible CPU. I would have got a Skate had it been unlockable and with a more capable CPU...then you'd have a serious handset at the 150 region. as it is it's kinda a flop, there just isn't much of a value factor besides the screen. i'd be surprised if it does hardly any sales compared to the Blade, in its current form.

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I have to come clean in this Skate forum... I am using HD2 on the daily basis even though there are bilions of Huawei and ZTE machines around me.

For my Galaxy S II, it has been surrendered to my wife and I admit that it's a great phone and the camera is decent. Only price would be a concern.

I've made a short video for comparison of HD2, X5, Skate


Thats not what this yutube video says here, its an HD2 Leo running CyanogenMode7 :o


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So you made the youtube video above!

Then you recommend the HTC HD2, best bang for the buck...:D

What puts me a off the HTC HD2 is mainly the poor camera! I think maybe the OMC camera is more usaeable than the HTC HD2 camera...

If Im going to upgrade again Id like something with an inbuilt camera akin to my old nokia N95...

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