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[Frankish]

Hi guys. I used to hang around the Blade forums but then sold mine to my brother and got a Moto Defy. Don't really have an issue with it other than the fact i would like a bigger screen! Whatever i decide i'm getting a new phone March next year anyway so...

From what i figure the pluses of my Defy...

Rugged (I'm careful anyway)
Roms galore. We got Moto roms from 2.1 to 2.3 (leak) and very stable CM7 and MIUI.
Flash although i never use it anyway.

Pluses for OMC...

Larger screen
Modaco Community probably will grow to Blade proportions! I always preferred it here than XDA.

I am well aware i would lose flash support and MIUI. (CM7 would come eventually i'm sure!) But other than that i'm not sure what disadvantages there would be. I know they both have 800mhz processors however i'm not sure how they would compare to eachother really. I've seen the Defy OC stable to 1.3ghz. I doubt the OMC would go that high but that's not an issue really.

Just looking for opinions really for a bit of fun i know i haven't made my mind up yet. Both have an LCD screen too right? I know the Defy does.

[ididmytime]

Frankish, on 09 August 2011 - 01:27 PM, said:

Hi guys. I used to hang around the Blade forums but then sold mine to my brother and got a Moto Defy. Don't really have an issue with it other than the fact i would like a bigger screen! Whatever i decide i'm getting a new phone March next year anyway so...

From what i figure the pluses of my Defy...

Rugged (I'm careful anyway)
Roms galore. We got Moto roms from 2.1 to 2.3 (leak) and very stable CM7 and MIUI.
Flash although i never use it anyway.

Pluses for OMC...

Larger screen
Modaco Community probably will grow to Blade proportions! I always preferred it here than XDA.

I am well aware i would lose flash support and MIUI. (CM7 would come eventually i'm sure!) But other than that i'm not sure what disadvantages there would be. I know they both have 800mhz processors however i'm not sure how they would compare to eachother really. I've seen the Defy OC stable to 1.3ghz. I doubt the OMC would go that high but that's not an issue really.

Just looking for opinions really for a bit of fun i know i haven't made my mind up yet. Both have an LCD screen too right? I know the Defy does.

I consider both phones to be low end - I wouldn't give up an armv7 device for an armv6 however, regardless of the screen. I'd wait it out until March.

[PaulOBrien]

The Defy is a lot smoother and quicker than the MC.

P

[sej7278]

Paul, on 09 August 2011 - 02:10 PM, said:

The Defy is a lot smoother and quicker than the MC.

yes, somehow my friend's defy is getting around 2000 quadrants at 1ghz (similar to defy+) as opposed to 950 for and blade at 710mhz, and some crazy fsckers seem to have managed 1.5ghz overclocks on an 800mhz chip somehow!

but then the price for a defy is £250 not £160 and you have all of the moto blur crap - cm7 is coming along but have they even unlocked the defy bootloader yet, or do you still have to do the "dual boot" workaround thing or use a leaked 2.3 rom?

[PaulOBrien]

Second-run-quadrant on the MC - a shockingly low 798.

P

[Frankish]

ididmytime, on 09 August 2011 - 02:01 PM, said:

I consider both phones to be low end - I wouldn't give up an armv7 device for an armv6 however, regardless of the screen. I'd wait it out until March.

I like to change device a lot. I could get enough for my Defy to cover the cost of the MC so I wouldn't be losing out.

Paul, on 09 August 2011 - 02:10 PM, said:

The Defy is a lot smoother and quicker than the MC.

P

Hmm I guess the omap is just a better processor even at same clock speed?

sej7278, on 09 August 2011 - 03:02 PM, said:

yes, somehow my friend's defy is getting around 2000 quadrants at 1ghz (similar to defy+) as opposed to 950 for and blade at 710mhz, and some crazy fsckers seem to have managed 1.5ghz overclocks on an 800mhz chip somehow!

but then the price for a defy is £250 not £160 and you have all of the moto blur crap - cm7 is coming along but have they even unlocked the defy bootloader yet, or do you still have to do the "dual boot" workaround thing or use a leaked 2.3 rom?

No unlocked bootloader but it's all very easy. Install a froyo rom, install 2nd init. Install rom of choice. After that you can just flash roms from recovery like normal.

Advantage is its very hard to brick a defy.

Paul, on 09 August 2011 - 03:08 PM, said:

Second-run-quadrant on the MC - a shockingly low 798.  P

That is shocking... How can it be so bad?

Edited by Frankish, 09 August 2011 - 03:10 PM.

[sej7278]

Paul, on 09 August 2011 - 03:08 PM, said:

Second-run-quadrant on the MC - a shockingly low 798.

ouch! blade at stock 600mhz is 715 quads as i recall. what have they done to it to make it that bad?! is this with your rom paul or the orange bloat?

[Atomix86]

Definitely stick with the defy, it might be mid-low end, but the skate is budget (so perfect for new users or second phones) and performs as such.

[Pelemane]

sej7278, on 09 August 2011 - 03:02 PM, said:

yes, somehow my friend's defy is getting around 2000 quadrants at 1ghz (similar to defy+) as opposed to 950 for and blade at 710mhz, and some crazy fsckers seem to have managed 1.5ghz overclocks on an 800mhz chip somehow!

but then the price for a defy is £250 not £160 and you have all of the moto blur crap - cm7 is coming along but have they even unlocked the defy bootloader yet, or do you still have to do the "dual boot" workaround thing or use a leaked 2.3 rom?

Huawei Ideos X5 can be overclocked to 1,9GHz and it has 800MHz chip too. That's pretty amazing.

[sej7278]

Pelemane, on 09 August 2011 - 04:54 PM, said:

Huawei Ideos X5 can be overclocked to 1,9GHz and it has 800MHz chip too. That's pretty amazing.

that might be what i'm thinking of (u8800) although i know the defy can go a fair way too (certainly over 1ghz).

[Frankish]

My defy i've had at 1.2ghz for ages but I think the managed stable 1.4 :-)