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Started by cmberry20 , Aug 19 2011 08:06 AM

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Poll: Is not being able to Unlock the Orange Monte Carlo stopping you from buying it? (149 member(s) have cast votes)

Is not being able to Unlock the Orange Monte Carlo stopping you from buying it?

  1. No, I'm on Orange & getting a OMC regardless (6 votes [3.85%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.85%

  2. Yes, really want the phone but on different network (82 votes [52.56%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 52.56%

  3. Not bothered, dont want a OMC (16 votes [10.26%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.26%

  4. I'm not on Orange but I got the phone regardless and now waiting for the unlock (32 votes [20.51%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 20.51%

  5. Gonna wait till the Unbranded 1Ghz Version from ZTE even though it costs more (20 votes [12.82%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 12.82%

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 08:06 AM

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I'm not buying one until its unlocked. So, it begs the question - is this hurting sales?

But, do ZTE & Orange make money when the phone is sold at £150? It probably makes sense to keep the phone locked if Orange loose money on each OMC sold. Being locked to Orange network is one way to recoup looses on a PAYG phone.

Edited by cmberry20, 19 August 2011 - 10:29 AM.

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 08:10 AM

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you should add: I'm not on Orange but I got the phone regardless and now waiting for the unlock

View Postcmberry20, on 19 August 2011 - 08:06 AM, said:

I'm not buying one until its unlocked. So, it begs the question - is this hurting sales?

But, do ZTE & Orange make money when the phone is sold at £150? It probably makes sense to keep the phone locked if Orange loose money on each OMC sold. Being locked to Orange network is one way to recoup looses on a PAYG phone.

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 08:30 AM

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^ Thanks! Done. :)

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 09:44 AM

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Would like a 1Ghz OMC. And never on Orange, they cannot compare to GiffGaff.

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 09:55 AM

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Its going to hurt sales now that Orange has clamped down on this from their previous experience with the San Francisco (hack-ability, unlock-ability, mod-ability) - and even more so - the MC/Skate is really a bigger version of San Francisco - had ZTE released a 1Ghz version, then yes I would but.... B)

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 10:12 AM

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I'm getting one delivered from Orange free of charge today, since buying a Dell Streak I find I rather like large screens. I will keep my Blade though until the Skate can be unlocked, I'm not giving up my Giffgaff for Oranges lousy plans!

Edited by gitf@ce, 19 August 2011 - 10:15 AM.

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 10:29 AM

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Added another choice to the poll. Letting people have the choice of the 1Ghz version.

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 01:10 PM

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View PostRoph, on 19 August 2011 - 09:44 AM, said:

Would like a 1Ghz OMC. And never on Orange, they cannot compare to GiffGaff.

Armv6 doesn't scale well above 600mhz (Look at how miniscule the difference is between the blade and the 800mhz monte carlo) the difference between 800mhz and 1ghz is likely to be even less.

Think its something to do with compatibility with the old arm abi (oabi) same reason intel never releases xscales at 2ghz even when they were running totally fine years ago.

Blade was good idea at the time this no longer is even close to best deal.

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 01:35 PM

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View Postunrandomsam, on 19 August 2011 - 01:10 PM, said:

Armv6 doesn't scale well above 600mhz (Look at how miniscule the difference is between the blade and the 800mhz monte carlo) the difference between 800mhz and 1ghz is likely to be even less.

Think its something to do with compatibility with the old arm abi (oabi) same reason intel never releases xscales at 2ghz even when they were running totally fine years ago.

Blade was good idea at the time this no longer is even close to best deal.

It's not a miniscule difference. There is quite a difference between the Blade and the Skate. The Skate feels more powerful than the Blade and not by a miniscule amount either. Remember that the Skate has a bigger screen than the Blade but the same GPU and so has the use more of the CPU in rendering the screen.

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 01:39 PM

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View Posttilal6991, on 19 August 2011 - 01:35 PM, said:

Remember that the Skate has a bigger screen than the Blade but the same GPU and so has the use more of the CPU in rendering the screen.


No. The number of pixels is the same

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 01:42 PM

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View Postknuckless69, on 19 August 2011 - 01:39 PM, said:

No. The number of pixels is the same

Yes this is true but the pixels themselves are slightly bigger as they have to cover a larger screen.

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 01:48 PM

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I have a sim only contract with another network with minutes and data..... if there were a free unlock like for the SF I would be buying tomorrow :)

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 09:51 PM

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I bought it knowing that either someone will crack the unlock or i can get it from orange ok the later will cost but who cares.

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 10:42 PM

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I bought it because it was £120 and i'm happy to wait for an unlock so i can use my t-mobile sim in it.

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Posted 19 August 2011 - 10:48 PM

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View Posttilal6991, on 19 August 2011 - 01:42 PM, said:

Yes this is true but the pixels themselves are slightly bigger as they have to cover a larger screen.

...So? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the GPU has to work any harder if the pixels are bigger, only the battery in displaying it.

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Posted 20 August 2011 - 02:07 AM

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View Posttilal6991, on 19 August 2011 - 01:35 PM, said:

It's not a miniscule difference. There is quite a difference between the Blade and the Skate. The Skate feels more powerful than the Blade and not by a miniscule amount either. Remember that the Skate has a bigger screen than the Blade but the same GPU and so has the use more of the CPU in rendering the screen.

That makes no sense. The phone produces an 800x480 image that gets sent to the display. The display can be 3.5 inches or 40 inches, the GPU has done its work.

Imagine running a game on a computer at 1024x768 and either playing it on a tiny LCD or a 30" plasma screen. The work done by the computer is the same.

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Posted 20 August 2011 - 07:32 AM

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View PostRoph, on 20 August 2011 - 02:07 AM, said:


That makes no sense. The phone produces an 800x480 image that gets sent to the display. The display can be 3.5 inches or 40 inches, the GPU has done its work.

Imagine running a game on a computer at 1024x768 and either playing it on a tiny LCD or a 30" plasma screen. The work done by the computer is the same.

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Posted 20 August 2011 - 09:06 AM

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View Postt0mm13b, on 19 August 2011 - 09:55 AM, said:

Its going to hurt sales now that Orange has clamped down on this from their previous experience with the San Francisco (hack-ability, unlock-ability, mod-ability) - and even more so - the MC/Skate is really a bigger version of San Francisco - had ZTE released a 1Ghz version, then yes I would but.... B)

Speaks for most really.

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Posted 20 August 2011 - 10:59 AM

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I now live in the Netherlands and I have a vodafone sim. So I must wait for unlocking before I buy :-(

I wish we did have Orange here!

All the deals offered here are terrible when compared to Orange and they're only getting worse.

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Posted 20 August 2011 - 09:19 PM

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View PostRoph, on 19 August 2011 - 09:44 AM, said:

Would like a 1Ghz OMC. And never on Orange, they cannot compare to GiffGaff.

Dead right. I get a decent 3G signal with Orange but zero for Giff Gaff.

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