Guest Blues003 Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Hello everybody. I have been noticing a bug on CM7 for quite some time now. It's a known bug, that affects many devices (actually, I *believe* it affects them all), and that me and Tom_G have discussed recently. I created this topic for the purpose of having a place where people can actively discuss the issue and gather all the relevant info. While I could discuss it in the official CM7 topic, it'd get lost between all the other messages. First of all, some brief notions of how MMS work: MMSs are data sent over your carrier. This means that you need Data Enabled in order to send a MMS. You can activate Data on Settings, although it comes enabled by default on CM7 (Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Mobile Network). Without Data Enabled, your MMS will fail to send, and you will not be able to receive MMSs either. In order to send a MMS, you also need a MMS APN. There are two main types of APN that concern the topic: MMS and Internet APN. Both are related to the usage of Data by the network, and the network knows how to differentiate "MMS Data" from "Internet Data" . However, they are independent, and you are not required to use "Internet Data" in order to use the MMS APN. The problem with CM is exactly that: for some reason, on CM7 you *need* a functional Internet APN in order to send a MMS. That is not how it is supposed to work, nor it is how it works on other ROMs (for example, GSF). For those with a Data plan, this is a minor bug. But for those without one, this means I have to pay for a day of Internet Data (1.29€) everyday I want to send/receive a MMS. If CM7 allowed me to send/receive solely based on the MMS APN (like it is supposed to), no Data would be charged (my phone plan includes unlimited MMSs to everyone on my carrier). 2G/3G does not interfere with the process itself; having 3G enabled simply makes sending/receiving data faster. You can still receive MMSs on 2G. That being cleared out, let us see how you can test if you have the issue or not: - Step 1: Make sure your MMS APN is well configured. (Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Mobile Networks -> Access Point Names). - Step 2: Delete your Internet APN, or click on it and change its "APN" field (I changed mine from net2.vodafone.pt to 123net2.vodafone.pt; whenever I want it working again I'll just go there and take the 123 out). - Step 3: Try to send a MMS without the functioning Internet APN. - Step 4 (optional): Try sending a MMS with the Internet APN correctly configured. - Step 5: Report your results. I am currently away from home but will be posting logcats of this issue soon. MMSs work as they should on GSF (they work without an Internet APN), if someone wants a comparison. I tried pushing MMS.apk app to CM7, but it didn't solve the issue: Tom_G suspects it is in the framework. Perhaps it'd help if Wbaw told us which apps he copied from CM7 to his ROM (and therefore, which apps do not appear to be responsible for the issue). Thanks for your time! Blues003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tom G Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 The problem with CM is exactly that: for some reason, on CM7 you *need* a functional Internet APN in order to send a MMS. Not true Tom_G suspects it is in the framework. When the problem was originally described I suspected it was in the framework, but now that I have tested on several of my devices (including blade) and not been able to replicate the problem I'm not so sure. For me it all functions as it should. It may be related to a problem with APNs, so please when reporting your results include the name and country of your provider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blues003 Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Not true I am sorry, I worded it wrong. In *my* case, that is how that is happening. :) When the problem was originally described I suspected it was in the framework, but now that I have tested on several of my devices (including blade) and not been able to replicate the problem I'm not so sure. For me it all functions as it should. It may be related to a problem with APNs, so please when reporting your results include the name and country of your provider. I doubt it has to do with the APNs, as I have tried configuring them manually and through a market App (APN Portugal, which always worked for me on other ROMs), and the end result is the same. Also, comparing the CM7 APNs to the ones that work on GSF/other Roms/the ones recommended by my carrier, there are no differences. In any case, I am on a ZTE Blade bought in Portugal, on the portuguese Vodafone carrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest krauli Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 This bug also affects other CM roms with different devices.. so its no related to blade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest t0mm13b Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) This bug also affects other CM roms with different devices.. so its no related to blade As matter of interest, which Android AOSP version was it that it worked under... I know its in Gingerbread 2.3.5, its the historical thing I am querying about, did it work okie in Froyo.... get the drift? ;) Since GSF, in which Blues003 stated that it works fine no problem, which suggests that something was changed in CM7's framework in relation to the MMS, either through the low level framework or in the app package itself.... a line missing from the java code or similar that is causing the issue that is seen in CM7 and not in AOSP. My take is this, GSF is based on AOSP stock code, CM7 is forked from there, with modded enhancements so its quite possible that something got deleted in there or taken out when the AOSP code got merged into the CM7 repo for modding... :) Edited September 28, 2011 by t0mm13b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tom G Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 My take is this, GSF is based on AOSP stock code, CM7 is forked from there, with modded enhancements so its quite possible that something got deleted in there or taken out when the AOSP code got merged into the CM7 repo for modding... :) GSF is not forked directly from AOSP, the ZTE roms are forked from CAF (which is forked from AOSP but includes a lot of changes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kirkintokyo Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) # Edited October 16, 2011 by kirkintokyo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kirkintokyo Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) I don't think it does need a "functional" internet apn, although mms's do send fine under my internet apn. For me, If i delete my internet apn and keep the mms apn, then reboot the phone, mms's won't send. Then if I disable mobile data then re-enable it, mms's will send and auto receive fine under my mms apn. Then after reboot, mms's won't send again. So something goes wrong during boot if using a mms only apn. In gsf and my stock froyo rom, mms's send and receive fine regardless whether mobile data is enable or disabled(but auto receive is easily disabled under messenger settings). So I think mms's are supposed to send and receive regardless of mobile data being on or off. I don't mind to have mobile data turned on (when i only have a mms apn set up) but having to remember to disable then re-enable mobile data is well a "bug". I'm running cm7.1 but ive always had the same problem on all cm versions i've tried. If i knew how I would love to make a patch, but i just don't have a clue how to edit source code. I hope somebody somewhere is kind enough to fix this bug Sorry for the long explanation. Edited October 16, 2011 by kirkintokyo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theShire Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 I don't get the issue here. I'm using GSF b27 I'm on O2 IRL and yes if I disable data then I can't send an MMS, obviously you need to have your a data apn configured whether it be an MMS or Internet data you want to send/receive. I'd be in exactly the same boat as Blues003 as I'm on prepay: "But for those without one, this means I have to pay for a day of Internet Data (1.29€) everyday I want to send/receive a MMS" So all I did was copy my apn settings for O2 IRL so now that I have 2, the only change i've made is the apn type: My normal "Data" apn type is set to: default,supl Whereas my "MMS" apn type is set to: mms No issues, when I send an MMS with data disabled, the "MMS" apn is used, quickly connecting to send the message and then disconnecting again once done. Can't you simply do the same in CM7, split out your apn settings instead of using one global for "default,supl,mms"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest herpez Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 I have exactly the same problem in 2 differents ZTE BLADE with CMT 7.1.0 stable. The carriers are: Vodafone PORTUGAL Optimus PORTUGAL It would be wonderful to solve this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eucurto Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 I have exactly the same problem in 2 differents ZTE BLADE with CMT 7.1.0 stable. The carriers are: Vodafone PORTUGAL Optimus PORTUGAL It would be wonderful to solve this... I have this issue to on n251.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zabtcent Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 (edited) I really think that someone don´t want to see the problem. But this is a BIG bug. On any other ROMS- stock, Swedish Spring, Moldavian Mountain Mile High, sending MMS works fine without data connection ON. In my case: APNs set manually, data connection off, try to send MMS, hangs on sending(happens on all CM7 nightlys and stable). On any other ROM same settings,data connection off, when sending MMS data connection turns on by itself and turns off when MMS is send. Same goes for receiving. For people without free mobile data like me it´s one of the options: 1) Pay for a day of internet data and have data connection on the whole day(drains battery); 2)No MMS at all; With my carrier(Swedish Comviq) I have free mms and it goes through mms apn instead of internet one on all other Roms so I am not charged for it. SO SORRY BUT THIS IS A CYANOGENMOD BUG. NO FIX WHATSOEVER. That stops me from using Cyanogenmod till it´s fixed cause I love all the other goodies in it. Keep up a good work Devs. Edited November 20, 2011 by zabtcent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Migun Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 I have MMS and don't pay for internet. I only have the MMS APN, and I have to uncheck and check the "data connection" on (I have to uncheck and check it everytime I reboot), this way it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zabtcent Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 I have MMS and don't pay for internet. I only have the MMS APN, and I have to uncheck and check the "data connection" on (I have to uncheck and check it everytime I reboot), this way it works. But isn´t it like it shouldn´t be. What happens if you want to use internet, hmm? And I don´t get it that people really don think that tis is an issue. CM is very good but this should be fixed. I hope it will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eucurto Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 it´s an issue that comes from CM6.. my x10mini has the same bug.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 4pda Posted November 27, 2011 Report Share Posted November 27, 2011 I dont have problem with APN, but i have problem with resolution MMS. I sent big image, but it resized in auto-mode to 192x256. I cant find settings where i can choise send MMS-image resolution :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest azidhaka Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Having both problems here - must enable data before sending an MMS, otherwise it will try to send it for a couple of minutes and fail with no data connection produced. Attaching picture to a message also resizes it to something completely unusable. I haven't measured the size, but pictures of hundreds of kilobytes down ot 1-10 kilobytes. My phone is a ZTE Blade with sej's CM7-7.2.0-RC0-KANG-n257plus2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fedezubo Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Having both problems here - must enable data before sending an MMS, otherwise it will try to send it for a couple of minutes and fail with no data connection produced. Attaching picture to a message also resizes it to something completely unusable. I haven't measured the size, but pictures of hundreds of kilobytes down ot 1-10 kilobytes. My phone is a ZTE Blade with sej's CM7-7.2.0-RC0-KANG-n257plus2 same issue with the same rom.. my carrier is TIM-IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest coolizard Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 Exact the same happens to me. No MMS send/receive without data turned on. I tried 3 ways that i´ve seen in web and that worked with some: - "Use root explorer, and make sure it is set to R/W mode (read/write). Navigate to /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/telephony.db and delete that file, then restart your phone. After the restart, you should be able to send and receive MMS messages." - "On the settings of internet APN, replace APN type: where is 'default,supl', delete supl (apn type is only 'default')" - "Use a APN app" None this worked with me. Carrier: TMN (Portugal) (this problem seems to be frequent on portuguese blades, right? But only happens on some, lots of people don´t have this problem) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest coolizard Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 I don't think it does need a "functional" internet apn, although mms's do send fine under my internet apn. For me, If i delete my internet apn and keep the mms apn, then reboot the phone, mms's won't send. Then if I disable mobile data then re-enable it, mms's will send and auto receive fine under my mms apn. Then after reboot, mms's won't send again. So something goes wrong during boot if using a mms only apn. This worked. But... Not a satisfactory solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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