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Fortunately, the risks are actually manageable with the use of proper smart chargers and safety cutoffs.  On the same token, all bets are off in the presence of manufacturing defects, or where poorly designed safeguards are concerned.  For example, attempting to recharge a lithium-ion battery after it falls below a certain low-voltage threshold is outright dangerous.



Some batteries therefore feature an internal safety circuit that will prevent charging when this happens – in effect rendering the battery permanently dead.  For laptops, the circuit could be built into the laptops instead, since no computer manufacturers that I know create separate chargers for laptop batteries.

It is in view of the above facts that make it illogical to allow a lithium-ion battery to deplete before charging it up again.  And yes, lithium-ion batteries have no memory effect; and you are actually risking permanent damage, or an explosion, by allowing a lithium-ion battery to deplete completely.  This is the same reason why lithium-ion batteries always leaves the factory fully charged – and the advice by your friendly mobile phone salesperson to “charge for 8 hours before use” is a whole load of uninformed hogwash.

In fact, if you look around, you will probably notice that Apple designed iPods to shut down when the charge gets too low.  In the same vein, the folks over at RIM took the trouble to program my BlackBerry Bold so that it will arbitrarily disconnect from the mobile network when running out of battery.

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Ahh well, you win some, you lose some...
Thanks for the very detailed explanation
FWIW, as your explanation would predict, I had the battery on charge for 12 hours or so overnight and no new life was breathed into it...
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I honestly wouldn't trust any higher ones, original or nothing for me.

http://www.ebay.co.u...984.m1439.l2649

I bought these, working well as spares. Seem to be authentic, pretty much identical to my original except a different font on the battery text.

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View Postblade_, on 05 April 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:


I've order this one about 20 ish days ago. Still awaiting arrival. Seemed amazing had to give it a try....


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Okay it arrived...


pretty good..

i uped to ICS and my 1350 Mah battery lasted an hour on sat nav mode (gps/data), gmaps.

Terrible!

But this lasts over an hour on FULL use, there and back so....

well it look slike a50% increase at least... unless i had a faulty battery in teh first place....


any way to test the new battery to get a standardized result?


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there's no way but to check the drainage by time.
you have to charge to 100% and then some more (like 15 more minutes), then do the most battery draining thing you can do (full brightness and white screen or whatever) airplane mode on and see how much time it takes to completely drain, then switch battery and try again

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Antutu make a battery test app that does its best to drain your battery as fast as possible and give you a score: https://play.google....m.antutu.tester

You would need to make sure its consistently charged though.  There seems to be a big difference between how fast it drops to 90% if you unplug the moment it hits 100% vs leaving it plugged in a few hours after it reaches 100%

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View Posttargetbsp, on 21 April 2012 - 05:57 PM, said:

Antutu make a battery test app that does its best to drain your battery as fast as possible and give you a score: https://play.google....m.antutu.tester

You would need to make sure its consistently charged though.  There seems to be a big difference between how fast it drops to 90% if you unplug the moment it hits 100% vs leaving it plugged in a few hours after it reaches 100%
that's a good idea.
please do try it, because if it's a real 1950mAh I will buy it myself!


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I got a 1500mAh battery (re-labeled as MTech but really looks like some cheap china stuff). Capacity is comparable to the original 1250mAh one. It does exhibit some different characteristics though; for example, voltage falls quickly under load, and recovers a bit in idle. The original battery isn't as "elastic" - which is a good thing as otherwise the phone will shut down too early under load.





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