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[rockmonkey]

 i am not a hacker, on 14 November 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

They know the phone is 3 months old by looking at the date of purchase, how long the sim has been activated for, and the IMEI Number. There are probably more ways too.

Orange will only unlock a payg phone if an orange sim has been activated  3 months and is registered to the phone. Not sure about contract but seeing as you will be most likely using the orange sim then regardless then it is much of a muchness.

Example if i bought this phone tomorrow but didnt regsiter an orange sim to the phone until say 2 months later i would need to wait 5 months from purchase to get the phone unlocked. The age of the phone is irrelevant. The time an orange sim has been registered with the phone is the only thing that matters. all a bit pony if you ask me and that is why i havent bought one... well that and the fact the moto have released the razr i.

[technomole]

I'm currently waiting for my unlock code so I can use a 3 sim in the osd (already got the pac code to migrate my number) my osd isn't that old (less than 3 months) but I've been with orange (on payg) for over a year, so when I phoned them up to ask for the sim unlock code they just said yes, all I have to do (apparently) is make sure there's credit on the phone (to cover the unlocking fee) and I should get the unlock code via e-mail within 30 days, I haven't got anything yet, but I only phoned them on Tuesday.

Edited by technomole, 15 November 2012 - 09:42 AM.

[BlueMoonRising]

 technomole, on 15 November 2012 - 09:41 AM, said:

I'm currently waiting for my unlock code so I can use a 3 sim in the osd (already got the pac code to migrate my number) my osd isn't that old (less than 3 months) but I've been with orange (on payg) for over a year, so when I phoned them up to ask for the sim unlock code they just said yes, all I have to do (apparently) is make sure there's credit on the phone (to cover the unlocking fee) and I should get the unlock code via e-mail within 30 days, I haven't got anything yet, but I only phoned them on Tuesday.

That's a good point, I transferred my San Francisco number to my OSD so I've had PAYG from Orange for 2 years plus. I may give them a call for an unlock code just to see.

[technomole]

 BlueMoonRising, on 15 November 2012 - 11:37 AM, said:

That's a good point, I transferred my San Francisco number to my OSD so I've had PAYG from Orange for 2 years plus. I may give them a call for an unlock code just to see.

They didn't even question it, or when I asked for my pac code, they did ask why I wanted to change networks, but before I could answer they said is it because of signal issues, I replied No sh#t !

I've recently discovered that Orange have started shutting down some of the masts near to me, so now the closest masts are used by 3, and from what I can gather locally 3 will give me the best signal, just need the sim lock code so I can take the phone as well.

[nadezz]

The problem is that I think the guy who sold me the phone, registered it with his sim card, so only he can unlock it, and im not sure but i think that same sim has to be active in this phone before an unlock can take place. Seriously considering the t-mobile route now. Has anyone got proof of a t-mobile sim working in the OSD? I have ordered a free sim to test but i doubt it will arrive til next week.

[BlueMoonRising]

 nadezz, on 15 November 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:

The problem is that I think the guy who sold me the phone, registered it with his sim card, so only he can unlock it, and im not sure but i think that same sim has to be active in this phone before an unlock can take place. Seriously considering the t-mobile route now. Has anyone got proof of a t-mobile sim working in the OSD? I have ordered a free sim to test but i doubt it will arrive til next week.

The sim is registered on their network(not via some submitted form) so as long as you've got an Orange sim in it and credit(send the odd text, maybe even just check the balance) then it should be fine.

If you're in the UK at least it'll work. Orange and T-Mobile are both part of EE now.

[nadezz]

well its good to know that i don't have to sell this phone, even without the sim working yet it has been brilliant!

[nadezz]

Just noticed some nice deals on Virgin Mobile, am I right in thinking that it would work exactly the same as a T mobile sim? is there anything to choose between the 2 providers? Going a bit OT here but w/e

[i am not a hacker]

 nadezz, on 15 November 2012 - 08:13 PM, said:

Just noticed some nice deals on Virgin Mobile, am I right in thinking that it would work exactly the same as a T mobile sim? is there anything to choose between the 2 providers? Going a bit OT here but w/e

They will both work exactly the same.

[BlueMoonRising]

 nadezz, on 15 November 2012 - 08:13 PM, said:

Just noticed some nice deals on Virgin Mobile, am I right in thinking that it would work exactly the same as a T mobile sim? is there anything to choose between the 2 providers? Going a bit OT here but w/e

They are good deals on Virgin, don't know how you're set for an unlock code though(can Virgin give you one?). If you've got an Orange sim I suppose you could just pop it in every week to send a text?

[BlueMoonRising]

@nadezz, I've been thinking about your situation, since you bought the phone secondhand then Orange s 3 month constraint on unlocking should be with the original owner not yourself. I can't see why they shouldn't sell you the code straight away since you never agreed to any contract with them.

This is from Virgin s mobile phone web site :-


2. Get your phone unlocked
Call your existing service provider and tell them you want to switch. You might need to give notice and pay an unlocking charge. If you have any problems trying to do this, just go through your operator's formal complaints procedure first. If you're still not happy, contact OFCOM on 0845 714 5000 or at ofcom.org.uk

Maybe worth a shot?

Edited by BlueMoonRising, 15 November 2012 - 08:30 PM.

[nadezz]

I might give that a try, when I called their reasoning was that I could have stolen the phone and I tried my best to argue but there doesn't seem to be a way round it with orange. I might give ofcom a ring though. Thanks for finding that

[ayziaa]

Seems like in france it's only about the date when you bought the device and not about 3 month with orange sim card activate. It's what orange france website state. Could someone comfirm that?

[Atlask]

you're right ayziaa

@nadeez
welcome in the club ^^

You know now why people are selling their OSD ?
Because Orange can't give to their customer the unlock code .

My first demand (for my osd changed under warranty ) : 09 Oct 12
All day ,i ask them some news ... and nothing !

Orange with Intel Inside = How to waste 200€ (and suffer when you see the new Nexus )

[BlueMoonRising]

 Atlask, on 16 November 2012 - 01:57 AM, said:

you're right ayziaa

@nadeez
welcome in the club ^^

You know now why people are selling their OSD ?
Because Orange can't give to their customer the unlock code .

My first demand (for my osd changed under warranty ) : 09 Oct 12
All day ,i ask them some news ... and nothing !

Orange with Intel Inside = How to waste 200€ (and suffer when you see the new Nexus )

Only if you're called Atlask apparently, plenty of other people (in the UK at least) have had no problem. Any French OSD owners bought their unlock code yet?

As for the Nexus 4, yes very nice and if I could have afforded it I would have bought one. However it's £170 against £279 for the equivalent 16GB models so stretching any comparison. If I'd have bought the Motorola Razri I may have been thinking along those lines but then again the Motorola is more than just a faster version of the OSD, so maybe not.

[BlueMoonRising]

OK, I've requested my unlock code from Orange UK (India division). After navigating the iPhone section (why haven't they sorted that yet? It must send the people on the iPhone section insane) she advised me upto 30 days but should be much quicker.
She checked I'd had it for 3 months and said that was OK which was strange in itself because I've only had the phone for 2 days short of 2 months, however I have had the number on Orange for 2 years plus.
I'll keep you updated.

[nadezz]

 Atlask, on 16 November 2012 - 01:57 AM, said:

you're right ayziaa

@nadeez
welcome in the club ^^

You know now why people are selling their OSD ?
Because Orange can't give to their customer the unlock code .

My first demand (for my osd changed under warranty ) : 09 Oct 12
All day ,i ask them some news ... and nothing !

Orange with Intel Inside = How to waste 200€ (and suffer when you see the new Nexus )

Nah, I got the OSD brand new for £110 on ebay. Nexus 4 is over £150 more and sold out. Also the nexus screen is just too big, awesome as it would be to have a phone that could compete with a laptop

[nadezz]

How many attempts at the unlock code before you get locked out? How do you reverse being locked out?
- this isn't so i can attempt to guess the code but just incase i entered it wrong...

[BlueMoonRising]

 nadezz, on 16 November 2012 - 12:49 PM, said:

How many attempts at the unlock code before you get locked out? How do you reverse being locked out?
- this isn't so i can attempt to guess the code but just incase i entered it wrong...

I think it's 3 times(could be 4). After that you need to phone CS although an Orange shop may be able to help.

[rickywyatt]

if you are talking about sim pin 3 times
if your talking about phone unlock 10 times