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That advert scares the life out of me. So much CGI.... hopefully more people will get this now....

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If anyone is interested in selling there phone I would be interested. I have a zte crescent but really like the sound of these and will use my zte for Modding

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That advert scares the life out of me. So much CGI.... hopefully more people will get this now....


Hell yeah.. I think I've seen that driver before (on kids tv in the 80's)! lol

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May I add my own thoughts? Not rants, but just listed.

First, thank you Paul for all the effort on this. I understand your wish to move on.

Second, Gigabyte are not an unknown/minor/never heard of company. They are well known in the computer hardware world as motherboard and graphics card manufacturers and also make other computer peripherals. And they also have their own branded smartphones, just they're not seen on the UK market. (I've no axe to grind on their behalf.)

Third, I don't think it would serve any point going direct to either Intel or Gigabyte. They have contracts with Orange which will probably have included full specifications of the phone, including this non-bootloader unlocking. Therefore any provision by Intel or Gigabyte to allow us any means of getting round this issue would likely mean they would be in breach of contract with Orange. Gigabyte probably aren't concerned one way or the other about this restriction (apart from contract breach) but Intel almost certainly are. It's their baby and they (think they) know best how to bring it up. We disagree with them, but it's their choice.

Fourth, I appreciate that people like Paul may have a need for an unlocked/rooted/etc phone to run certain apps, but surely not everone on here regards this issue as a "deal breaker"? In its own right, the San Diego is a good phone, even ignoring its low price. The general consensus on the net and several reviews I've seen say so too. I was glad to get rid of everything orange on my SF (thanks again Paul), and have a clean version of Android 2.3.7 on it in the end, but although disappointed that I can't (yet) do the same with the SD I'm not going to get too upset and lose sleep. After all, I still have a fairly good looking phone, a decent camera, it plays flash, web browsing is fine. And it's good as a phone too. Having set my own desktop wallpaper (a picture of the Eagle Nebula, my daughter's studying astrophysics!) and installed a few apps of preference (Smartkeyboard Pro, Dolphin, etc) I can I can put up with the bloat and simply ignore the Orange stuff.

Fifth, I can't comprehend the lack of ICS at launch but at least Orange are making a firm committment to ugrade, unlike their vague intimations in the early days of the SF.

Now, what's Microsoft's new tablet going to be like to use?...


Well said, and I agree with all said.

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Don't care re rooting other than to get sd slot working.

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I'm still fighting whether i can live without root...just for the fantastic specs of the SD! It would last me while i know that much... Still think the closest thing is the Huawei Honor and it's not near as good...

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I'm still fighting whether i can live without root...just for the fantastic specs of the SD! It would last me while i know that much... Still think the closest thing is the Huawei Honor and it's not near as good...


Ahh, but I'd love to see Windows XP on the SD! :D

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I'm still fighting whether i can live without root...just for the fantastic specs of the SD! It would last me while i know that much... Still think the closest thing is the Huawei Honor and it's not near as good...


I am in same situation frankish.The way I see it,I have a g300 for playing with,and the san diego for a more day to day stable phone with great specs.
Obviously I am hopeful that some leak will come in future to free this bad boy from its chains.

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I am in same situation frankish.The way I see it,I have a g300 for playing with,and the san diego for a more day to day stable phone with great specs.
Obviously I am hopeful that some leak will come in future to free this bad boy from its chains.

you know what will happen is that a new phone with a bit better specs will come for the same price and then the bootloader will appear for the OSD :wacko:

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Remember an engineering bootloader might not even help. It could well be a 'locked' flag set somewhere...

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So there may be no hope at all for this device :(

I understand that this is a whole new ball game as this is basically an intel phone,but there have been locked bootloaders before that have been cracked right ? So this must be possible here.
My worry is that any dev thinking of buying this will be quickly changing there minds upon hearing the bootloader is and staying locked.
It is a real shame,very sad indeed,as this device has so much potential it almost makes me sick that orange would lock it down so hard knowing that the android community is a large part of their business :wacko:

Edited by jikobutsu, 21 June 2012 - 12:53 PM.

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SAD NEWS .... No one will beat the San Fransisco/ZTE Blade , and if they beat the phone it won't be so popular than San Fransisco/ZTE Blade.

But , i hope this device will be bootloader cracked in a near future , in safety ways of course.

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The way I feel is that, no matter how nice the phone is. It could be much faster, and I have no control over it. I'm a bit of a 'buy low, mod high', kinda guy.

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SAD NEWS .... No one will beat the San Fransisco/ZTE Blade , and if they beat the phone it won't be so popular than San Fransisco/ZTE Blade.

But , i hope this device will be bootloader cracked in a near future , in safety ways of course.

i dont know, for what its worth the Huawei G300 is certainly worth a look. make the Blade feel rather rubbish if im honest

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Glad I went for the G300. Intel probably wants to keep the device secure and Orange have no realised the reason for it's previous success was the ability to improve the device that had been provided. Expect the Intel offering to be going cheap soon in the future as most main stream users won't want it and the hackers will now avoid it as they cannot customise it. It is a bit of a large brick of a phone from what I have seen, whereas the G300 is a skinny but powerful device and seems to have a longer battery than my Skate.

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I think it's thinner than my g300 at least it seems that way.

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well, as other said, its highly unfortunate cause it means I will not buy it either :) Go Blade, go G300!

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Oh well I am stuck with mine now,it is on contract ;)
But it is no biggy as ics update is coming later in the year(I wonder if orange will ruin that with bloat too ?)
Back to my g300 for the real stuff I guess,but this is still a worthy device if you are not bothered with root & custom roms.
Just wish there was a way to get rid of bloat without root then I would be more than happy,but the only option I see here is to use a launcher that can hide apps,so you can just forget about them.

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A lot of negativity... so here is something to cheer you all up, whilst I crack on with seeing what needs doing :)


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In that case it is safe to say there is very little hope. I guess Orange will be punished for this the very same way they were punished with the Monte Carlo and SFII i.e. low sales.


I actually quite like the OMC as the screen is about the right size and the design is very cool even though it's a bit big for my pocket, it's just a pity they didn't use an A8 processor on it and stick an 8 mp camera on it. Plus a forward facing camera so the world can view my bed hair early in a morning.

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