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[Sulthekk]

Mtman1, on 14 July 2012 - 08:28 PM, said:

Please stop making this into a language topic :/
Anyway, I'm not really sure why anybody would actually want firefox os (b2g), as there will probably be hardly any apps. If you want something that has the looks, just use miui.
Can anybody tell me why you would want this?

Android is now getting more and more problematic with every major version. That can be an alternitave OS that may replace it if we can't get any further, and you heavily underestimate the number of apps... As F-OS will be GPL-ed, I'm sure a lot of geeks will prefer it to android just for that, actually I saw that many only refuse to think android as a 'real' linux distro because it don't has a copyleft license. That people will surely be able to write apps in 5 minutes for almost any problem.

[Roeloff]

Sulthekk, on 14 July 2012 - 09:05 PM, said:

Android is now getting more and more problematic with every major version. That can be an alternitave OS that may replace it if we can't get any further, and you heavily underestimate the number of apps... As F-OS will be GPL-ed, I'm sure a lot of geeks will prefer it to android just for that, actually I saw that many only refuse to think android as a 'real' linux distro because it don't has a copyleft license. That people will surely be able to write apps in 5 minutes for almost any problem.

Apps will be HTML5 so they should be easy to port. I'm excited about Firefox OS because it will be completely open source and hopefully will run like greased lightning on the Blade. There'll come a time when the Blade won't cope with the next Android version, but Firefox OS may give it a new lease of life.

Edited by Roeloff, 14 July 2012 - 11:03 PM.

[rchars]

What makes you guys think that this will work on ARMv6?

shezar, on 14 July 2012 - 07:18 PM, said:

I may accept that the original meaning was in fact, what you said above.

By the way, being a web-programming enthusiast, I see much in a platform based on HTML and JS, but I don't think it can be a real competition to native code and hardware-accelerated java in terms of raw performance. That means, in order to achieve the same user experience, one needs stronger hardware (or much (MUCH) better optimized code) on the Firefox OS phone. Why? Because JS is an interpreted language, which has interpreters that are highly optimized, it still runs an abstraction level higher that Java/compiled C, C++.
We'll see shortly if my thoughts here are right.

JS is JIT compiled. It's not the ugly awkward cousin anymore but the hot, slim one that you wish you could f...
Take a look at node.js! It's a really fast event based web-server.

Edited by rchars, 15 July 2012 - 08:30 AM.

[Sulthekk]

rchars, on 15 July 2012 - 08:14 AM, said:

What makes you guys think that this will work on ARMv6?

First, it's aimed at low end smartphones.
Second, all apps are written in HTML5+JS, if you can get the OS running, you got all apps running.

[rchars]

Sulthekk, on 15 July 2012 - 08:28 AM, said:

First, it's aimed at low end smartphones.
Second, all apps are written in HTML5+JS, if you can get the OS running, you got all apps running.

But the low-end of today is not the same as that of next-year.
Also their browser is barely working on this architecture.

[Sulthekk]

rchars, on 15 July 2012 - 08:46 AM, said:

But the low-end of today is not the same as that of next-year.
Also their browser is barely working on this architecture.

Their armv6 nightlies are actually very fast and are surprisingly smooth...

[Roeloff]

Here are some new images of Firefox OS

http://techcrunch.co...efox-os-images/

And if anyone wants to play with it on a desktop computer:

http://arstechnica.c...nightly-builds/

Edited by Roeloff, 20 July 2012 - 08:57 AM.

[Carlos Manuel Leemet]

I have tried to port the HTC Deam/sapphire's B2G ROM but It fails, once it installed it and when I modified the boot.img again then it didn't flash it anymore!

I also don't know how to make the boot script stuff and I'm using 32-bit Linux Ubuntu..

I used these commands to unpack boot.img and to repack it: http://www.mydroidwo...-boot-image/  I don't know does the roooted.img include kernel or just ramdisk but it looks like it has kernel too..

I really would love to try Firefox OS on the ZTE Blade because I don't do nothing with the ZTE Blade because I have Galaxy Nexus..

Can somebody try to port the firefox ROM to ZTE Blade, it's based from ICS 4.0.4 it needs data folder with the files to boot it because in the data folder is the files what is like apps!

[Sulthekk]

If I were you I would wait for it to be finished. Firefox OS is still in early development, and the code may change from a day to another.

Edited by Sulthekk, 09 August 2012 - 10:00 PM.

[Carlos Manuel Leemet]

Sulthekk, on 09 August 2012 - 09:57 PM, said:

If I were you I would wait for it to be finished. Firefox OS is still in early development, and the code may change from a day to another.

I have Galaxy Nexus and I don't use even the ZYE Blade because my brother bought it from someone with 1€ (screen glass is broken only), so I want to use it and to test it and I don't care is it beta.

It would just be nice to test it if it works fine on ZTE Blade...

[Sulthekk]

Well, if you really don't mind a lot of bugs and the phone being unusable, then you may want to take a look at https://developer.mo...g_Boot_to_Gecko


As I said, it's under heavy development. Good luck on keeping up with the changes, but again, I would recommend to be patient.

[Carlos Manuel Leemet]

Sulthekk, on 09 August 2012 - 10:19 PM, said:

Well, if you really don't mind a lot of bugs and the phone being unusable, then you may want to take a look at https://developer.mo...g_Boot_to_Gecko


As I said, it's under heavy development. Good luck on keeping up with the changes, but again, I would recommend to be patient.

Thanks for the link but I'm not developer and I don't have 64-bit PC to buid ROMs.. :/