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Hi guys I'm looking for some advice.

I am definitely set on getting either the umi x2 or the jiayu g4. However I am wondering:

1. Talking mainly about the g4, Is 2gb of ram really necessary/ lany better than 1gg (possibly because most people never use that much or whatever)? What change will the extra 1gb of ram make to the phone or is it just a fad to make you pay more for the more expensive model. If does make a difference, is it worth the extra amount of money you would have to pay, since that looks like the only thing that is any better about the more expensive version as internal size is not an issue for me.

2. I see a lot of people split over the x2 and the g4 but this seems to be a only due to the recent delays the g4 is undergoing. Since, time is not a problem for me but money is more so, which would be the one you guys would suggest? Is the extra price for the x2 worth it, because is can't see that many advantages it has over the g4 (1080p screen ect) that justify the price (please let me know if I'm wrong on this). I know it is more of an opinion and there is already a topic poll on this, but I wanted to know your opinions in terms of their prices (mainly), in light of the g4 delays and the sudden large interest in the x2 etc.

3. Finally, which is probably the most likely to have custom rom's developed for because I normally hate stock roms?

Thanks for helping guys

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I'm no expert, and perhaps someone else will have better advice. But the extra GB of ram is always going to make the thing run faster. Whether it's worth the cost to you is another thing. I would think its the same principle that we apply to PC's. Basically, if you're doing graphic heavy stuff on it, or a huge amount of multitasking then you'll need more ram. (not sure about the latter, in an Android system, though) So, if you play games that use a lot of graphics, or anything else that uses a lot of graphics, then you'll need the extra ram. I don't play many games, so for me, I think that 512mb is ok and 1GB would be plenty.

I can't speak to your second question, but there is a comparison tool on gizchina now, so you can put the two phones side by side to find any differences. http://www.gizchina....chinese-phones/

Regarding roms my hunch is, in China, there will be custom rom's for both, . So, if you know where to look and how to deal with a Chinese rom you should be ok. (like you'll need to know how to add an English keyboard to start off). But, if you want a rom that is already sorted for an English user, your best bet would be to follow what Tillaz and Kyan are doing. Development is a hobby/passion for the both of them, so they are bound to customize and thus share, any work they do on the phone they end up buying

Hope that helps...

Edited by Colossae3.23, 09 May 2013 - 07:51 AM.

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For the sake of argument thought I would ask, are Chinese imports still worth it ??

Looking at the prices for the umi x2 and the jiayu g4 inclusive of courier they have reached or are approaching £200. Take into account the problems if they go wrong and it brings me back to the title are Chinese imports worth it?

Surely there must be a UK supplied phone that would be a good bet around this price, even if not quad core?

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You may even run into a single core phone around that price, if lucky...
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You may even run into a single core phone around that price, if lucky...
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or Huawei G510 dual core for £130 :D to name but one...

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lol, the "real" price of the G4 is only 999 yuan / £105, its the world wide retailers who are slapping on the extra...

its tempting me to take a little trip to china and buy a load of them, then re-sell in the uk for £120 :o haha

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lol, the "real" price of the G4 is only 999 yuan / £105, its the world wide retailers who are slapping on the extra...

its tempting me to take a little trip to china and buy a load of them, then re-sell in the uk for £120 Posted Image haha

Put me down for a black one

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Put me down for a black one

+1 more :)

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Must admite , does my head in seeing all these quad core phones for £100 notes , but you try getting one at that price , I've got a zte v970 on its way to put me on cost me about £78

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Must admite , does my head in seeing all these quad core phones for £100 notes , but you try getting one at that price , I've got a zte v970 on its way to put me on cost me about £78

And the link is....


or Huawei G510 dual core for £130 :D to name but one...


http://www.merimobil..._p/meri8610.htm
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Edited by dakok, 09 May 2013 - 08:56 PM.

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And the link is....


yup £104 http://translate.goo...roduct-264.html


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For the sake of argument thought I would ask, are Chinese imports still worth it ??

Looking at the prices for the umi x2 and the jiayu g4 inclusive of courier they have reached or are approaching £200. Take into account the problems if they go wrong and it brings me back to the title are Chinese imports worth it?

Surely there must be a UK supplied phone that would be a good bet around this price, even if not quad core?

I'm beginning to think this way too. And these 2 phones haven't really seen the light of day yet. All the hype and nothing to really show for it, so far. Maybe the price will drop a few months after all the fuss. If it doesn't, I reckon I'm looking elsewhere.

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For the sake of argument thought I would ask, are Chinese imports still worth it ??

Looking at the prices for the umi x2 and the jiayu g4 inclusive of courier they have reached or are approaching £200. Take into account the problems if they go wrong and it brings me back to the title are Chinese imports worth it?

Surely there must be a UK supplied phone that would be a good bet around this price, even if not quad core?



The only phone I can think of is the G510. However if you look at what you can get from china, delivered for the price of the 510, then Chinese phones are still worth it IMO... You can get a Jiayu G3 on eBay for £130 delivered from china with a 2 week returns policy and a 6 to 12 month warranty. And the specs on the G3 are a lot better than the 510.

The only real risk is that "what happens if..." spidy sense we all have. Well I hope I'll be able to send it back, for a replacement but because of the risk of being out of pocket then that makes me limit my purchase to around £150. I personally am in no rush and wouldn't buy anything until around June/ July so I hope by then things are much clearer.

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You may even run into a single core phone around that price, if lucky...
:D

Just been looking at completed listings for new Nokia Lumia 820's on eBay uk, and most are selling for under £200, some around £150. They're dual core and have a good camera, as well as a high contrast screen, that's good in sunlight. The low res, doesn't bother me too much. Don't crucify me, but I think Win8 is a cracking OS, and the app store is steadily improving...

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Just been looking at completed listings for new Nokia Lumia 820's on eBay uk, and most are selling for under £200, some around £150. They're dual core and have a good camera, as well as a high contrast screen, that's good in sunlight. The low res, doesn't bother me too much. Don't crucify me, but I think Win8 is a cracking OS, and the app store is steadily improving...


That's a big risk buying new phones from random sellers on eBay. Most likely they are selling there upgrades and I've heard how the phone can lock after a month or two, not to mention that if the phone is faulty then you're out of luck.

Also windows 8 phones.. OMG no lol.

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Also windows 8 phones.. OMG no lol.

:D

yeah good point, you need to be careful on eBay, too

In other news, this looks encouraging
http://www.gizchina....on-coming-soon/

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I made my attempt on a chinese phone. After all the talk here i decided to start with this one.
http://www.pandawill...ack-p74583.html

Hopefully Tillaz will buy the same and have a rom :D !!

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I made my attempt on a chinese phone. After all the talk here i decided to start with this one.
http://www.pandawill...ack-p74583.html

Hopefully Tillaz will buy the same and have a rom :D !!


I hope not! :P I hope he will buy the UMI x2 or the Jiayu G4.

I think i will just buy the same one :P because i really cant decide.

Ive heard that the Jiayu has crappy buttons because they are in the back cover so that would really be a bummer while the UMI X2 seems to have a really good build quality.
The UMI also has the updated MTK6589 1.5ghz processor instaid of 1.2ghz but Jiayu might also upgrade.

Then there is the battery i really like the big 3000mah battery in the jiayu because a long lasting battery really is a must since my 3G is allways on and the UMI only has a 2500mah battery wich is less then the samsung S4 and with the 1080p screen i asume it will consume a lot of power.

Also i prefere the design of the Jiayu over the UMI altough the UMI also looks nice.

1 thing i know for sure it has to have 2GB ram.

Jiayu: Crappy buttons, big battery and cheaper, beautyfull design (but they keep delaying)
UMI: Not enough battery, strong build quality, better CPU (for now), better/bigger screen. (Lauched 15 may but i dont know about the 2GB ram version)

I cant wait for reall reviews to see wich comes out best. Wich takes the best pictures wich has the best benchmark scores etc...

UMI X2 turbo benchmark scores:
http://www.gizchina....-mt6589t-power/

Edited by Wacky.ddw, 10 May 2013 - 04:46 PM.

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Hi guys i just ordered a black Jiayu g4 advanced. I payed $231.15 includding shipping.

I ordered it here: http://www.mentoo.co...-gyroscope.html

And i used this -8% coupon code: 861527


What happened to this one you ordered did you cancel it??

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Umi are also in the progress of making an English site. Think I'm gonna get an x2 turbo. Over 14000 on antutu which is impressive :)

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What happened to this one you ordered did you cancel it??


No i didnt but mentoo contacted me to say that the umi youth might be a better option if i pay the difference they send me a free 32tf card. I mailed them that i want the premium version and that i am willing to wait. Untill then i hope review will pop up

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