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Poll: Just heard on the Dutch radionews, Brittain wasn't ready for the Euro yet. But do you prefere paying with Euro's or are you just happy with the good old Pounds? (65 member(s) have cast votes)

Just heard on the Dutch radionews, Brittain wasn't ready for the Euro yet. But do you prefere paying with Euro's or are you just happy with the good old Pounds?

  1. I prefer paying with euro's, like other countries in the EU (40 votes [35.40%])

    Percentage of vote: 35.40%

  2. I prefer paying with my good old British Pounds, even if I have to change when I go abroad. (73 votes [64.60%])

    Percentage of vote: 64.60%

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The debate has alas been devalued by our rabidly nationalistic tabloid press, with the resullt that too many Britons just don't understand the issues. It's NOT about who's picture will appear on coins, it's about who controls interest rates, money supply and (as a result) our economy. We've already got problems in that what best suits the prosperous SE of England (where the banks and financial institutions are based) is doing daily damage to the north (where what little manufacturing remains) is based. No single set of interest rates - to speed up or slow down the economy - is going to be appropriate for all of Europe: Currently Germany needs an interest rates CUT to boost demand, and Ireland needs an interest rates RISE to help cut demand and slow inflation. But it's the European Central Bank which makes the decisions.

I've lived in France and Germany - I speak German well enough to pass for a native of Lower Saxony. So, I'm not exactly Xenophobic. But anyone who's familiar with European life can surely comprehend that we don't even THINK alike? In France, they have a word: "Pistonage". It means that the state builds two "grades" of subsidised housing - one for the poor, and another (rather better!) that's given away as rewards for political favours. Scratch a French politician's back, and you could wind up with a nice appartment overlooking the Bois du Boulogne, at a heavily subsidized rent. In the UK... that would put both you AND the politician involved in gaol. (I used to belong to a debating society that periodically debated against the local "open" prison. T. Dan Smith was their star speaker - doing ten years for swapping holidays for planning permission.) In Hannover, germany, the burghers traditionally promenade through the Herrenhauser Gardens (big park) on Sundays. A road cuts across it, and on Sundays you can watch the Germans queue patiently as they wait for the "green man" to appear at the crossing before they step out - despite the fact that the road sees maybe one car every couple of hours. Two totally DIFFERENT attitudes to law. The Brits have the worst reputation in Europe for "being awkward" about new Euro-laws, while the French will seemingly sign up for ANYTHING that has "European" at the top of the page. But the UK also has the BEST track record in Europe for translating those laws into national legislation - and then enforcing it... and France has one of the worst. It's a matter of "national attitude". Until we reach some kind of consensus on what law (not THE law - just the CONCEPT of law) IS, then turning the EU's membership into a "superstate" is a truly stupid idea. Laws underlie what makes a nation.

Twenty odd years back, I campaigned actively for UK entry into the EEC. Removing trade barriers, and closer economic ties made sense. "Harmonisation" - by which a British-made sausage doesn't get peddled in Germany as a rival to their more expensive (and 100% meat!) Bratwurst may make stupid headlines in The Sun, but it also makes some kind of sense. A European ECONOMIC community still seems a good idea - one way to form a block large enough to deter bullying by US economic interests. But a "Single nation"? Composed of dozens of peoples who don't even share the same idea of what "nationhood" means? Absurd.

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I hate Europe and I hate the fact that we are even part of the EU, Is it only me or has anyone else noticed that we aren't part of europe, There's a big bit of sea called the channel that splits the two, I have nothing against europeans but I don't want to be one.

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Cheerio mates! Chip, chip and all that! What's all this anti-US banter, gov'ner? I'm quite fond of the blokes across the pond! We are related after all by heritage as well as language. after all.

After I finish my shepard's pie, fish and chips, I'm off to turn on CNN to watch Mr. George Bush banter about the best country in the world!

I'd be proud to have American Notes in my pocket while sitting here in my flat! And I'd love Britian to be the FIFTY FIRST state! The queen mum wouldn't mind, old bean! After all, if you pull out a Yank note, George Washington and she look one in the same! And all the old US presidents have wear the same ridiculous wigs as our current barristers and politicians! Chip Chip! Cheerio!

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The queen mum wouldn't mind, old bean! After all, if you pull out a Yank note, George Washington and she look one in the same!


Sorry mate not funny :evil:
The Queen Mother, (may she rest in peace) was one of the only decent royals we had.

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But anyone who's familiar with European life can surely comprehend that we don't even THINK alike?


I agree 100% with this and everything else you said Big Ron, I just couldn't get around to write it all in. :lol:

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I hate Europe and I hate the fact that we are even part of the EU, Is it only me or has anyone else noticed that we aren't part of europe, There's a big bit of sea called the channel that splits the two, I have nothing against europeans but I don't want to be one.


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But anyone who's familiar with European life can surely comprehend that we don't even THINK alike?


I agree 100% with this and everything else you said Big Ron, I just couldn't get around to write it all in. :lol:


And it's a well known fact that all British people think alike...

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But anyone who's familiar with European life can surely comprehend that we don't even THINK alike?


I agree 100% with this and everything else you said Big Ron, I just couldn't get around to write it all in. :D


And it's a well known fact that all British people think alike...


I think I'm allowed to think like this. I've lived in Wales, North Yorkshire, London, France, Germany, California, Switzerland and now France/Switzerland mix.

My Mum's Irish and my Dad is Basque. I think I can safely say that I am a good example of what it means to be British. :lol:

In the US I also used to do cultural training and consultancy for companies trying to break in to Europe, explaining where to locate sites and where to hire staff, etc.

Each country has it's good and bad points, and it has to be said that some have an awful lot of bad points, and we're not talking about the UK here.

There is two levels of economy in mainland Europe. The UK, Switzerland, Germany, Luxembourg, Lichenstein, Austria and Holland occupy the first level. France is in the same economic grouping as Spain, where as Italy is trying to move in to the first level. Poland and Hungary will be joining the second level and there might be a third level created for Czech Republic, etc.

This is how companies like Nokia, Motorola, IBM, Vodafone, etc. calculate how much should be invested in to each country, etc. It's not just about how much the average income is, it's more about other things, like how much each person spends on luxury items, the state of the economy, etc.

As usual, this is just my 2 cents worth. :lol:

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Can we add an option for "Not Arsed" please???

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The queen mum wouldn't mind, old bean! After all, if you pull out a Yank note, George Washington and she look one in the same!  


Sorry mate not funny  
The Queen Mother, (may she rest in peace) was one of the only decent royals we had.


She may have been decent and she may be resting in peace, but a little joke never hurt anyone...just like your compliment to her is a criticism to the rest of the family!

Either way...sorry if my comment bothered you. :oops: You seem to be a bit sensitive anyway! :roll:

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My Mum's Irish and my Dad is Basque. I think I can safely say that I am a good example of what it means to be British.   :lol:  


You've probably hit the nail right on the head there, some people rave on about being British, but depending where in Briatin you're ancestors come from, you are descended from someone from overseas, my Mum is from Yorkshire, I'm probably descended from a Viking, and my dad is from Scotland, so probably descended from a Celt.

British - the true mongrel state.

I've just looked back into this thread and at the moment its 50 : 50 on the vote (17 people each) - so no definite concensus of opinion :D

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Sorry for the lateness in my reply but I hate europe because the french are stuck up the germans don't know how to laught the greeks have big noses and so on and so fourth, do I need any more reasons, i do appologise to any europeans but I'm british and not european!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

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hmm, i sense a flaming coming on :)

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i'm not anti eurpoean (barring my adversion to the french and spanish - but thats another story)

i just think the euro notes look like monopoly money.


Anyway, ill be moving to Malta soon (who i believe are going to be adopting the euro in the very near future), so I'll be using Euros everyday. It's is a shame really, since a country's currency is part of it's identity imo.

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Sorry everyone, just had to get this one in... :)

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A man walks in to a bar and sees a group of people who, as it turns out, consists of an American, a Russian, and Iraqi and a German.

He says to the, 'Excuse me, I am trying to survey public opion on the shortage of luxury items. Can you help me?'

The people look a little confused until the Iraqi says, 'What does Public Opion mean?'

Then the American says, 'What does Shortage mean?'

Then the Russian says, 'What does Luxury Item mean?'

The the German says, 'What does "Excuse me" mean?'
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As a Brit who married a Russian, whilst living in Germany, and then moved to America, I think I can say that with out appearing nationalistic! ;)

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I liek that and the euros are monopoly money, all the buildings on them are fake and don't exist, why :?: , there have to be thousands of buildings in europe why can't they use them? :roll:

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It was done dileberately to stop idiots going "Hey how come the French get the Eiffel tower on the 500 euro note and Big Ben only makes it to the 5 Euro note?" or "Hey how come the French get the Eiffel tower on the 500 euro note and we don't get anything on any note?"

Even if they did a montage including a building from all countries then new countries would feel left out as the EU expanded.

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[quote name='capt_janeway' date='Jun 10 2003, 10:37' post='237727']
I am pro-Europe. Unfortunately this country has an island mentality that has restricted us for too long.

Says it all, couldn't agree more... :)

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And if we had joined the Euro then we would be bailing out Greece along with everyone else.

Interesting digging up such an old post, I had forgotten about the old members like Big Ron

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