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[PaulOBrien]

Breaking News:

The SPV E200, Orange's new flagship Smartphone device, is constrained with a 4 directional joystick, as opposed to the 8 way controller featured on the original SPV and SPV E100.

This is terrible news for gamers, as the 8 way controller is quite simply vital for a large number of games. Our readers have already confirmed that xRick Dangerous is unplayable, Total Soccer suffers from having no diagonal movements, and further posts are reporting similar issues.

In addition, development of the eagerly anticipated fighter 'Kumite' has been postponed for the E200 device, with development continuing only for other handsets.
More information on this story as we get it...

[zeta101]

nice one orange :roll:

[Syphon Filter]

its  silly of them to have done this but can keys not be remapped to say the keypad instead of the stick, ie using 1,3,7 and 9 for the diagonals? Is  this perhaps the excuse to switch to the P900 i was looking for??

[dom]

Please say this is not true!  I've not got a E200 yet... but gaming would have been one of the priorities!

Is there any chance it could be a software issue meaning that the s/w is not recognising diagonal movement?

[rhaleuk]

Yes, I noticed this also.  Mini Super Bike is uplayable.  I can live without an eightway joystick, but it is baffling that orange appears to have taken this step backwards whilst gaming.  Im sure it makes navigating menus easier though.

[ranzz]

Actually, the original joystick is 9 way. 8 ways + push it in, or "action button".

[drblow]

Seems that (suprise, suprise, Cilla!!) Orange have not really thought it thru!

I'm thinkjing about upgrading to the e200 - but with the amount of complaints about it so far (only after 1 week)  I'm now reconsidering!!

[awarner]

Looks like I'll be going for the MXP200 then :?

[MECX]

took quite a while to notice this rather huge bug didnt it.
Glad i didnt jump and buy a E200 now although i think the improvements outweigh this loss (although i dont play many games on my SPV)

shame on orange for screwing over developers and not telling them of this change  ](*,)  =D>

[kevlar]

Let me get this straight first, As far as I know no digital joystick/pad has eight switches, they have 4 and make a diagonal out of 2 switches, i.e. up and right together to give diagonal up/right?. So are you saying that the stick on e200 can't make the 2 switches together? or that the phone software is not acepting a signal from 2 switches made together?. If the later is the case an update should be able to sort it. If the stick can't phisically make 2 switches together then obviously we are screwed.

Hope I haven't got that completely wrong :oops:

Kevlar

[midnight]

whats amusing is it affects Rebound, the game that comes with the e200

[PaulOBrien]

We are trying to clarify at the moment...

The software definitely isn't receiving the two at once (despite the fact it can detect the two soft keys together no problem)...

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[Bunchie]

Oh dear.. i really don't know what to say.  :roll:  They really have scuppered a lot of peoples hopes for this phone...

[kevlar]

Right. Who's going to be the first to open their e200 to check? :?

Kevlar

[midnight]

8 way is just a term used for pushing a joystick in 8 directions, meaning that if you had a character on screen you can move in 8 directions aswell. We are running tests to see if its hardware or software thats at fault.

It does affect a lot of games though, beatemups, shooters, rpg's, footy games the list goes on

[Emad]

Yay for MPX200 funness..

Something to be addressed for the SPV E220?

[Maverick]

Huh? My Congratuations to the Orange/HTC team that tested this phone. What a bunch of jokers !!

[kevlar]

Testing?, what is this testing you speak about?

Wait till msmobiles gets hold of this!!

Kevlar

[FrankyG]

It's just not all that good is it...the whole E200 package :!:  Ok, so it does have lots of things that work...AS THEY DAMN WELL SHOULD DO :!:  :!:  ...there's just too many things which don't work, or don't work well enough to be enjoyable. My decision is now made; I WON'T be buying E200, not until the dust settles and(IF??) many of the raised issues are addressed by Orange/MS/HTC. Such a pity, they really should have done better. Missed oppurtunity  :?

[dom]

Another thing to note about the E200 package is that it does not include the carry case that came with earlier SPV's, that's nearly as bad as the D-pad thing