Guest awarner [MVP] Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 Erm yes maybe you have to "Erase IPSM" first before trying to restore? DOH!!!! Did not think of that :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest akarno Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 I have had one thought. I haven't seen it mentioned in the thread before. If you get the update then restore your IPSM, isn't there a danger that you may loose some important new registry setting or other new "thing" that gets added to the IPSM by the update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RMWD Posted February 22, 2003 Report Share Posted February 22, 2003 DOH!!!! Did not think of that :oops: AWarner, arew you being serious or just joking? I haven't risked erasing the IPSM before loading a saved version as I don't want to loose my unlock settings. Also the LOAD option comes up and I assume would overwrite the IPSM. Do you or DJ Hope believe that you need to erase the IPSM BEFORE loading a saved IPSM. Has anyone checked this out. If so the Backup sticky will need rewriting again (sorry DJ) and I'll risk all. Thanks for all you guys are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted February 22, 2003 Report Share Posted February 22, 2003 When I updated I tried to install the backup of my IPSM and it did not seem to work as I then had to go through the decert process again ;) Erasing the IPSM first would make sence so whenif I up my rom to the uk version I would give it a go. So no I am not joking :) Remember as soon as you update you will lose your unlock settings so your IPSM after the update would be useless anyway. But you can stil decert your phone, it's just your timing needs to be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DJHope Posted February 23, 2003 Report Share Posted February 23, 2003 I havnt tried this and i wouldnt have a clue, but it seems like it would definately "force" the IPSM to be written. The only reason this dosnt make any sense is because the 32/64mb backup dosnt require this, but then that is a full backup maybe thats a completely different kettle of fish? DJ Hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Michael Eyres Posted February 23, 2003 Report Share Posted February 23, 2003 Sorry to say it boys...but, I suspect like most people, (Standard users), I don't have an additional card except the 8MB that came with the phone:oops: . As I suspect that it will not fit the backup to that, can I backup direct to a PC drive via the Windows explorer :idea: ? Help only hours to go before I upgrade... and manybe lose things Thanks M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted February 23, 2003 Report Share Posted February 23, 2003 Theres no way to back up to your PC through ActiveSync, it's been disabled for some reason :/ As it happens, when the update arrives i'll temporarily sacrifice my 128meg SD card to a backup until i'm happy everything is working fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RMWD Posted February 23, 2003 Report Share Posted February 23, 2003 Thanks AWarner for replying.Clear now. Monolithix said he would temporarily sacrifice his 128meg card. I could do that too by copying everything to the PC then copying back. But can the card be reformatted as an ordinary card afterwards by the SPV. I'd read somewhere that it couldn't. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted February 23, 2003 Report Share Posted February 23, 2003 SmartPhone OS will ask if you want to format the card as soon as you put it back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RMWD Posted February 24, 2003 Report Share Posted February 24, 2003 :lol: DJHOPE AWarner and others, I thanx. I've now bought a 32meg SD card (cheap) saved ALL (full backup) removed a picture file from the IPSM and restored just the IPSM and the picture is restored. Now the upgrade. Two things though DJ... On saving ALL (which the 32mg card is big enough for) after formatting the disk it then kept me informed of which files it was saving and when done it said PASSED at the bottom. On loading the IPSM back (I didn't have to erase the IPSM) It said "loading file" and when completed it said PASSED again. This loaded the IPSM file saved to the SD card over the IPSM on the phone. Great. :) ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neilg Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 Hi All, Having updated my SPV I now dont seem to be able to get the bootloader give me any option other than load from an old card or erase IPSM. What I would like to do is save an image of my newly updated card. have tried new formatted cards as well as erasing one of my old ones but no luck. Anyone else managed?? A bit more searching of this forum......and you guys had already answered the question under a different topic.... here for anyone like me that missed it, USB terminal program to do the job http://www.modaco.com/viewtopic...ight=bootloader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest foxy11 Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 nice guide thx :) just backed up ALL to a 32meg mmc card, it was surprisingly fast and does indeed say PASSED at the bottom. Works fine, now time to do the update and desimlock ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spvmastah Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 i did the software update, and although i did the backup first, it wasnt needed, everything is as it was before the backup, except that the 2 new programes are now installed. is this normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gadgetman Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 I also carried out the UK upgrade and found decert still working. Also ran the SIM unlock routine afterwards, went OK. Then, out of interest, used a full backup taken before UK update to restore to pre-update, went OK. Then reapplied uk update and found that decert still ok, as well as SIM unlock. Whatever the UK update does, it appears not to affect Decert and SIM unlock. hope this info helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spacemonkey Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 OK, decert once applied is stored in the registry. That is IPSM. This will only be lost if you delete IPSM (as in do a hard reset). Sim-Unlock codes I think are more likely to be stored in some little bit of flash ram in the bios somewhere and once that's unlocked I'd hope even a hard reset didn't re-lock it. I would be interested to know if anyone can confirm whether a hard reset puts sim-lock back on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest arunhallan Posted April 7, 2003 Report Share Posted April 7, 2003 is there a way of backing up the phone after the UK update now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hjjorg Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 maybe the link below will help if you dont have bootloader .98 and .93 Ultimate guide on unlocking Smartphones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lspatricio Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 i'm doing the back up, and on my SPV screen, i only see SAVE IPSM and ERASE IPSM. Does this mean, i can't do a full back up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jenylights Posted October 9, 2003 Report Share Posted October 9, 2003 *UPDATED* *NOTE* PLEASE READ EVERYTHING ON HERE BEFORE ATTEMPTING ANYTHING Backups dont work with the UK update their is a fairly complicated way round it, which i will write up soon, it involves using a terminal program to flash back the DK update bootloader! :!: DISCLAIMER: I CANNOT BE HELD RESPOSIBLE IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO YOUR PHONE REMEMBER YOU ARE PLAYING WITH YOUR PHONES ROM, EXTRA TERRESTRIAL SPACE FREQUENCIES MIGHT PISS THIS UP! :!:  Ok now im assuming here you phone is switched on and nothing has been modified except maybe the cert unlock! 1- Find a spare memory card the process is different for each size of memory card. 8MB, 32MB, 64MB(max required but you can use anything bigger)! 2- Switch phone off and switch phone on with memory card of choice inserted, make sure you are holding down the voice record button. 3- The smartphone bootloader should kick in and say "Card Found" 4- Hold down the action button for one second as directed 5- Now you should be presented with various save options including   Save ALL, Save Bootloader, Save GSM, Save WinCE and Save IPSM and various other combinations of these. 6- Depending on the size of the memory card chosen you will be able to  back up a minium of just the IPSM (for 8mb) to a complete backup for 32mb/64mb. NOTE: The ipsm contains the registry, all your settings, contacts, text messages, backgrounds, ringtones basically everything on the phone that is user selectable or has to be modified by the operating system, since this backs up the registry YES it will keep cert unlocked and off! 7- It takes sometime and may appear like its not doing anything but eventually you will be able to press keys this is the sign that it has finished, for some reason it dosnt say passed but you will know if its finished! The key here is you should be ok as long as it hasnt said FAILED which happens if it runs out of space, it shouldnt take any longer than a MAX of 20-30mins (for a full backup) 8- you now have a quality backup, press left twice goto end and holdpower button to reset the phone. UPDATE: You can DEFINATELY use an 8mb card to backup IPSM, it has been confirmed below, finally a reason to dig it up ;) TO RESTORE THE BACKUP 1- insert memory card containing the backup and switch on the phone holding the voice record button. 2- it will now ask you if you want to restore the backup, if you only want to restore PART of the backup (e.g. you made a full backup but only want to restore the IPSM) press the power button (to get rid of the normal restore menu) and then hold action key as instructed to get to diag menu. 3- their are now options to LOAD various parts of the backup so if you just want to load the ipsm back on press LOAD IPSM. NOTE: it says something strange like find file and click to save and it appears to have hung leave it it hasnt hung, eventually it will say P A S S E D. Your backup should now be restored and all settings will now be INDENTICAL to when you made the backup. This process is especially useful when you do the update since you can save IPSM and then do the update, restore IPSM and all your settings will be kept exactly as if you hadnt even touched the phone. Also a complete restore of the backup (if you did a complete backup) should get rid of the danish rom update too i havnt tried this but it seems pretty obvious.  NOTE: DO NOT F*CK/EDIT/JUMP ON THE BACKUP IT WILL DESTORY YOUR PHONE, THE SD CARD IS NOT READABLE BY SMARTPHONE WINDOWS SO TAKE IT OUT BEFORE IT LOADS OR IT WILL WANT TO FORMAT IT, WINDOWS 98/XP ETC CANNOT READ THIS SD CARD EATHIER IT CAN ONLY BE READ BY THE SMARTPHONE BOOTLOADER AND A WINDOWS HEX EDITOR (WHICH I ADVISE AGAINST). OH AND IF YOU DO BACKUP THE SD CARD TO A FILE (using a hex editor) YOU WONT BE ABLE TODO THIS THROUGH ACTIVESYNC ONLY AN SD CARD READER :idea: *NOTE TO PEOPLE INTENDING 8MB BACKUP* :idea: 8MB BACKUPS CAN BE A LITTLE BIT DODGY (NO IDEA WHY) TEST THE BACKUP BEFORE UPDATING: 1-Put something in your IPSM before doing the backup  2-Do the backup, then delete the thing you put in your IPSM  3-Restore the backup and it should come back(if it dosnt you dont have a good backup, otherwise you do!).  4-If you didnt get a good backup then try again but remove some stuff from your IPSM, and go through this continuous cycle.  NOTE: You *shouldnt* damage your IPSM so dont worry!  Nice one peeps, Take it easy, DJ Hope PS if you do the danish rom update and then IPSM restore you will need two shortcut files for the new apps: WindowsEzSound.exe for picture manager  WindowsEzPic.exe for sound manager :!: PROBLEMS UPDATING(TO DANISH UPDATE) &  RESTORING IPSM :!: :arrow: ONLY FOR ENGLISH USERS, DANISH USERS CAN IGNORE! Ok now using this method orange update/orange backup arnt working this is because something in IPSM is giving away our locale as UK and not DK. Since the files used for orange update in the windows directory all have "orangedk" in them it will complain about not being able to find locale specific resources. Got a new procedure for this thanks to shuflie copy the files below to IPSM/Windows before backing-up and updating then orange backup/update will always work. Thanks to preconsitant/cent for the original info! The files are: AE_en.dll  AEB_orange_en.dll  AECommon.dll  AEL_orange_en.dll  AER_orange_en.dll  AERASManager11.dll  AEU_orange_en.dll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alderian Posted November 18, 2003 Report Share Posted November 18, 2003 OK, need a bit of basic help with this. My Tanager (E100?) only somes up with Erase IPSM when I use thw voice recorder button/power on method. Is there a way do this that I'm missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 All bootloaders newer than 0.98 only have the Erase IPSM option. You need to downgrade to a lower version as you bootloader is V1.00 or V0.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest notbot Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 i have and e200 smartphone and have installed a 256mb sd card. when the phones internal memory is full I have changed the memory options box to transfer all new photos and videos to the storage card, but when I take new photos/videos I get a message on the phone saying 'unable to save the captured image. file access was denied'. can you tell me what the problem could be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Disco Stu Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Did you transfer out the stuff on the phone to free up some memory ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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