Guest jUsT2eXy Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 (edited) as soon as I put some large apps back to there original location I get the stalling issue back. Oh man :lol: Any proper fixes for the big files ? Edited July 2, 2010 by jUsT2eXy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IBTECH Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 as soon as I put some large apps back to there original location I get the stalling issue back. Oh man :lol: Any proper fixes for the big files ? It is not really related to the size of the app. Apps that require more disk i/o will make the device slower. Move your email client, market and other apps you think might be using disk i/o in the background to NAND and you not have this problem. Just moving email (Touchdown) and Market to NANDsolved the problem for me. All my other 58 apps are on the SD location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mbr01 Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 (edited) Remember radiogirl83: She addressed the stalling issue in a youtube film and based on that her local (Belgium) Samsung HQ invited her to examine it together, as they were rather surprised to see the phone stalling. http://www.youtube.com/user/radiogirl83#p/u/1/cB1b0UrX9e0 She took the invitation and went there, which lead to a positive result already. In the follow-up film on youtube, with a reviews of de Galaxy S, she says there is new firmware on it's way to fix the stalling. It's supposed to be on the Belgian Galaxy's that are due to release at the end of july. She actutally says the phone she reviewed has this new firmware and it doesn'nt have any stalling problems. Good news! She reviews phones by the way, gets samples sent by manufactures to review, so she knows what she's talking about. Maybe someone can get here to post that firmware here... And could people please call it the /dbdata folder or /data folder if your talking about it, and don't call it NAND. Why? It's just one big chip of MoviNAND that is soldered in the phone, so all the memory we speak of is NAND. It's just partioned in different chunks. Full morherboard: http://www.careace.net/wp-content/uploads/...assembly-12.jpg Zoomed in on the flash/NAND memory: http://www.careace.net/wp-content/uploads/...assembly-14.jpg Edited July 3, 2010 by mbr01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IBTECH Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 Just wondering if anyone here is running the XXJF7 firmware and still has the lag? Or are we all running XXJFB or XXJF5? Please state your firmware version you are running if you are experiencing this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bambibio Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 Just wondering if anyone here is running the XXJF7 firmware and still has the lag? Or are we all running XXJFB or XXJF5? Please state your firmware version you are running if you are experiencing this issue. XXJFB a.k.a XXJF5 is newer than JF7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IBTECH Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 XXJFB a.k.a XXJF5 is newer than JF7. not so sure about this. Just because someone said it on the Samsung firmware forums does not make true. Regardless i am trying to see if this is happening on a certain firmware or on all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bambibio Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 Mmkay. Well I had minor stall issues on XXJF3, but I'm running MoDaCo R1 now and FWIW has no stall issues with the stall-fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest droidz Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 (edited) hi guys, I did a du on /data/data and another du on its backup in /sdcard/downloads, but the size of both are different...which one should i trust? :lol: Edited July 4, 2010 by droidz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zenkinz Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 (edited) as soon as I put some large apps back to there original location I get the stalling issue back. Oh man :lol: Any proper fixes for the big files ? I have created a script that will only move the core folders (com.android and com.sec.android) to the /dbdata folder. This will ensure new third party apps able to install w/o worrying about the disk space constraint. beware this script assume you have not done the stall patch yet (i.e. all the folders are still in /data/data). if you have already done that, make sure you reverse the origianl patch before applying this script.patch.zip Edited July 4, 2010 by zenkinz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zenkinz Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 And could people please call it the /dbdata folder or /data folder if your talking about it, and don't call it NAND. Why? It's just one big chip of MoviNAND that is soldered in the phone, so all the memory we speak of is NAND. It's just partioned in different chunks. Full morherboard: http://www.careace.net/wp-content/uploads/...assembly-12.jpg Zoomed in on the flash/NAND memory: http://www.careace.net/wp-content/uploads/...assembly-14.jpg Thanks, this really clears it up. I have always confused when people keep saying moving the files to the NAND when it's already in it. I think it might be the way how the data/data partition is being created on the same physical NAND chip, as compared to /dbdata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KUNG_C Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 I have created a script that will only move the core folders (com.android and com.sec.android) to the /dbdata folder. This will ensure new third party apps able to install w/o worrying about the disk space constraint. beware this script assume you have not done the stall patch yet (i.e. all the folders are still in /data/data). if you have already done that, make sure you reverse the origianl patch before applying this script. Thx, but how to use it? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObsceNeJesSter Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 What firmware version should we be looking for? The one Radio Girl was talking about that supposedly fixed the lag issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oxylos Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 I have created a script that will only move the core folders (com.android and com.sec.android) to the /dbdata folder. This will ensure new third party apps able to install w/o worrying about the disk space constraint. beware this script assume you have not done the stall patch yet (i.e. all the folders are still in /data/data). if you have already done that, make sure you reverse the origianl patch before applying this script. Thanks for the work! Is there maybe any busybox command needed to start or inside the script? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vaioboy Posted July 4, 2010 Report Share Posted July 4, 2010 Hi everybody I partitioned my SD card to a FAT32 and a EXT2 partition. But I don't know how to: - mount the ext2 partition. What command should I use? (It's positioned on /dev/block/vold/179:10) - mount the ext2 partition on startup.... init.d seems not presented and I don't know any alternative solution. Thank you in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zenkinz Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 (edited) Thx, but how to use it? :) my bad. unzip and copy the script to your device and then run it when you are at the /data/data directory. e.g. PC$adb push patch.sh /sdcard/patch.sh PC$adb shell $su $cp /sdcard/patch.sh /data $chmod 755 /data/patch.sh $cd /data/data $/data/patch.sh that's all is needed. Thanks for the work! Is there maybe any busybox command needed to start or inside the script? it uses cp so you should have installed busybox first before running this script. Edited July 6, 2010 by zenkinz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rasp Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 (edited) And could people please call it the /dbdata folder or /data folder if your talking about it, and don't call it NAND. Why? It's just one big chip of MoviNAND that is soldered in the phone, so all the memory we speak of is NAND. It's just partioned in different chunks. Full morherboard: http://www.careace.net/wp-content/uploads/...assembly-12.jpg Zoomed in on the flash/NAND memory: http://www.careace.net/wp-content/uploads/...assembly-14.jpg im not sure this is entirely true because /data and /dbdata is not on the same stl device block... /dbdata is on /dev/block/stl10 while /data is on mmcblk i can agree /system /cache /efs /dbdata is in one nand chip with different partitions but /data is way off on internal mmc flash memory.. if they are on the same NAND just different partitions, we wont hv this problem do we cos they will all be on the same speed Edited July 5, 2010 by rasp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vaioboy Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 im not sure this is entirely true because /data and /dbdata is not on the same stl device block... /dbdata is on /dev/block/stl10 while /data is on mmcblk i can agree /system /cache /efs /dbdata is in one nand chip with different partitions but /data is way off on internal mmc flash memory.. if they are on the same NAND just different partitions, we wont hv this problem do we cos they will all be on the same speed yes I agree with you. "/data" is actually a portion of internal SD. It's much slower than /dbdata /system /cache... which are located on NAND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zenkinz Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 im not sure this is entirely true because /data and /dbdata is not on the same stl device block... /dbdata is on /dev/block/stl10 while /data is on mmcblk i can agree /system /cache /efs /dbdata is in one nand chip with different partitions but /data is way off on internal mmc flash memory.. if they are on the same NAND just different partitions, we wont hv this problem do we cos they will all be on the same speed since physically there's only one nand chip, I would subscribe to the viewpoint that /dev/block/stl10 and /dev/block/mmcblk are all partitions of the same physical chip, maybe with different setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KUNG_C Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 my bad. unzip and copy the script to your device and then run it when you are at the /data/data directory. e.g. PC$adb push patch.sh /sdcard/patch.sh PC$adb shell $su $chmod 755 /sdcard/patch.sh $cd /data/data $/sdcard/patch.sh that's all is needed. it uses cp so you should have installed busybox first before running this script. but it shows /sdcard/patch.sh: permission denied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DLCI Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 Once again - can you capture the usage of cache & temp when you see the lag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rasp Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 since physically there's only one nand chip, I would subscribe to the viewpoint that /dev/block/stl10 and /dev/block/mmcblk are all partitions of the same physical chip, maybe with different setting. ok, lets take a closer look: 179 0 16056320 mmcblk0 179 1 14090208 mmcblk0p1 179 2 1966080 mmcblk0p2 Looking at the stripped galaxy s photos and from samsung website: http://www.samsung.com/global/business/sem...s_MoviNAND.html 16GB KLMAG8DEFD-A301 x8 1.7~1.95 2.7~3.6 Max. 52MHz 169FBGA 12x16 MMC4.3 MP <- closest to what we hv now, we know where the 16GB moviNand coming from? /data and /sdcard 138 3 6400 stl3 138 6 1280 stl6 138 9 304640 stl9 138 10 111104 stl10 138 11 32000 stl11 the stl blocks add up to 455MB, so its another chip of probably 512MB in size?.. and its DEFINITELY faster, may it be NAND or NOR memory but not on the same moviNand with different partitions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KUNG_C Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 (edited) problem sloved, thx :) Edited July 5, 2010 by KUNG_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lio78 Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 problem sloved, thx :) How? Thank's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gravityz3r0 Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 (edited) my bad. unzip and copy the script to your device and then run it when you are at the /data/data directory. e.g. PC$adb push patch.sh /sdcard/patch.sh PC$adb shell $su $chmod 755 /sdcard/patch.sh $cd /data/data $/sdcard/patch.sh that's all is needed. it uses cp so you should have installed busybox first before running this script. I get "Permission Denied" error at the final command /sdcard/patch.sh Edited July 5, 2010 by gravityz3r0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johoe Posted July 5, 2010 Report Share Posted July 5, 2010 I get "Permission Denied" error at the final command /sdcard/patch.sh copy patch.sh to /data/data, then do the chmod again, after that it should work... johoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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