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Link2SD but still have low internal memory??

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I have a Acer Liquid Metal on 2.3.6. I have a custom ROM T&L. It came preinstalled with Link2SD. I like to try lots of apps and this problem seems to be haunting me. I reset my phone on the 26th Dec as it was so annoying. I think I have set up Link2SD correctly. I have a 4gb SD with 1gb as ext2. Please see the screen shots:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10591127/shot_000002.png

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10591127/shot_000003.png

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10591127/shot_000004.png

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10591127/shot_000005.png

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10591127/shot_000006.png

If I have Link2SD, why do I still have a problem with low internal storage?? I have had to remove some app's but the internal storage always gets lower.

Have I set Link2SD up correctly? How can I resolve this problem?

If you need anything further please let me know.

Thanks,

Matt

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Internal storage will still get used up due to the application's Dalvik Cache and Data IIRC.

How many apps have you got installed?

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By counting on the full application list, 74. On Link2SD selecting All shows 111.

Can I not force the cache to go onto the ext2?

Considering reflashing with another ROM and trying A2SD instead but its hassle!

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Delete system apps to clear system space, then move some installed apps to the /system partition? I don't know if L2SD will create links between /system and the second SD card partition, but you could give it a go....

If it works, that could essentially double your space for L2SD links.

If not, look which apps are taking up the most space on the phone (not the SD card) and move them to /system, and don't try to link.

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Internal storage will still get used up due to the application's Dalvik Cache and Data IIRC.

How many apps have you got installed?

I believe that the Dalvik cache is linked (see OP's screenshot #6). Not sure about data...

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Delete system apps to clear system space, then move some installed apps to the /system partition? I don't know if L2SD will create links between /system and the second SD card partition, but you could give it a go....

If it works, that could essentially double your space for L2SD links.

If not, look which apps are taking up the most space on the phone (not the SD card) and move them to /system, and don't try to link.

I can't delete any system app's they are all essentials surely? Looking through the list doesn't look like I could remove any of those, just over 50 of them.

Not sure what you mean by moving some installed apps to the /system partition, how would I do this?

Biggest apps were some games (about 15-30Mb each), but these were installed on the SD card. Removed 4 games and i've got an extra 5Mb back. Next biggest are things like Flash and Dolphin HD.

Thanks.

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I believe that the Dalvik cache is linked (see OP's screenshot #6). Not sure about data...

Yeah looks like it is, my bad. Haven't used Link2SD for a while.

You can move App Data to the EXT partition with Titanium Backup. Long press on an app and select 'Move App Data to SD Card'. In Titanium order the apps by size so you can see what uses up the most data.

Also, I found that moving some apps to the SD Card i.e. the Android_Secure folder can create more free space.

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I believe that the Dalvik cache is linked (see OP's screenshot #6). Not sure about data...

How would I find this out and what affect would this have? Cheers

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Yeah looks like it is, my bad. Haven't used Link2SD for a while.

You can move App Data to the EXT partition with Titanium Backup. Long press on an app and select 'Move App Data to SD Card'. In Titanium order the apps by size so you can see what uses up the most data.

Also, I found that moving some apps to the SD Card i.e. the Android_Secure folder can create more free space.

OK I got Titanium backup. Backup/restore tab. Ordered by app+data size. Top is Currents - if I long press on that it comes up with "Move to Internal" so I guess its already on the SD.

Is it not risky to move the Android apps to SD - or is this safe? Is there a list of the apps that I could move across?

Thanks

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OK I got Titanium backup. Backup/restore tab. Ordered by app+data size. Top is Currents - if I long press on that it comes up with "Move to Internal" so I guess its already on the SD.

Is it not risky to move the Android apps to SD - or is this safe? Is there a list of the apps that I could move across?

Thanks

Hmm, you shouldn't really need to do this. Link2SD should minimise the internal memory usage without removing any functionality - but if it's leaving too much in internal then I guess fully moving some apps to the SD card would free some memory. In gerenal, anything that can be moved in Setting >Applications >Manage Applications (click on an app then see if the 'Move to SD button is greyed out or not) should be OK to move - however, I would take a note of which apps this applies to, and then move them though L2SD because you have them linked so the moving process is a little more complicated. This way just shows which apps the developers said could be moved - and a lot of developers don't bother, even if the app is fine to move. If you want to move more, as a general rule, don't move widgets, keyboards, apps that run in the background (think superuser, avast!, LBE etc.), launchers or themes for any of these apps.

The advantage of linking rather than moving is that when the SD card is mounted to the PC, you don't lose the functionality of these apps - so lets see if we can sort out the problems usign L2SD before you move all of your apps over...

To move apps to /system, long press an app in Ti Backup and press 'convert to system app'.

Here's how to move app data to SD card in Ti Backup: (this is from someone from xda-developers, I haven't tried it yet but will give it a go now)

Your second SD card partition must be mounted as /sd-ext, and the directory /sd-ext/app must exist. Once these are in place, titanium backup will detect the partition and it will give you the option to move app data to the sd card.

This is a great feature for apps that create large databases in /data/data/[appname] that are not otherwise moved using either Froyo's built-in migration tool as well as link2sd, which moves the app & lib but not the app data.

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Considering reflashing with another ROM and trying A2SD instead but its hassle!

so you will get even less internal memory because App2SD move to the SD only the Apk while leaves on internal memory the dev cache and libraries (both linked and moved to the sd by Link2SD).

You still have low internal memory because the Data can't be moved/linked by Link2Sd (or App2Sd neither). You may try with Titanium Backup as suggested.

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I'd be interested in using Ti Backup to move app data myself:

The wiki says this:

Our Apps2SD scheme creates symbolic links (one per app) at /data/data/com.x.y that will point to somewhere within an ext2/3/4 partition on the SD card.

The supported mount points for the ext2/3/4 partition are:

  • /system/sd/ ("classic" sd-ext)
  • /sd-ext/ ("Cyanogen" sd-ext)
  • /data/sd/ ("MIUI" sd-ext)
    So for Data2SD to work, you'll need to ensure that your ext2/3/4 partition is mounted at one of these locations. Then create an "app" directory at that location in case it doesn't exist. Once it's done, you'll see a free space gauge for it in the Titanium Backup welcome screen, and you can then long-click on an app in the list and hit the "Move app data to SD" button.

So will this not work with a FAT32 partition?
And if so, what would be easiest:

  • Converting the existing FAT32 partition #2 to an ext2 one?Creating a new small ext2 partition just for app data?How big is app data anyway?

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The advantage of linking rather than moving is that when the SD card is mounted to the PC, you don't lose the functionality of these apps - so lets see if we can sort out the problems usign L2SD before you move all of your apps over...

To move apps to /system, long press an app in Ti Backup and press 'convert to system app'.

Here's how to move app data to SD card in Ti Backup: (this is from someone from xda-developers, I haven't tried it yet but will give it a go now)

I have moved some apps to system as below:

http://dl.dropbox.co.../ScreenShot.png

But the opposite seems to have happened! Think I now have less storage space, gone down a couple of Mb.

How do I find is my SD is mounted as /sd-ext ?

Edit; I take it there isn't an app that will tell me exactly how the internal storage is being used?

Thanks,

Matt

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I have moved some apps to system as below:

http://dl.dropbox.co.../ScreenShot.png

But the opposite seems to have happened! Think I now have less storage space, gone down a couple of Mb.

How do I find is my SD is mounted as /sd-ext ?

Edit; I take it there isn't an app that will tell me exactly how the internal storage is being used?

Thanks,

Matt

Not sure why that would happen - where are you reading the storage space from?

As to the last point, use DiskUsage. This will tell you how much used and free space there is in each partition.

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Your apps are being installed to the SD card (the FAT 32 Portion), instead of being "linked" to the sd-ext.

Choose each app that says "on SD card" and for each app select "create link"

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Yes, by the sound of it you have installed and configured link 2 sd but not actually used it. Hit the menu key and select all, then do a batch link. If you need more detailed instructions, find a recent thread called "Storage space and UI" and read my guide to rooting and using L2SD which I think is at the bottom of the second page.

You can then set up L2SD to automatically link newly installed apps.

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Yes, by the sound of it you have installed and configured link 2 sd but not actually used it. Hit the menu key and select all, then do a batch link. If you need more detailed instructions, find a recent thread called "Storage space and UI" and read my guide to rooting and using L2SD which I think is at the bottom of the second page.

You can then set up L2SD to automatically link newly installed apps.

All I can find is:

Is this the thread your referring to?

Cheers

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Doing that batch action made the applications unavailable. I decided to just reset and delete the SD. Taken a while but was worth it, reinstalled all the same apps I had before and now 102Mb/54% free so I'm happy with that. Hopefully won't have to bother doing any of this "internal memory low" stuff now!

Thanks for all your help guys, will post again if I get any further problems.

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