Guest Tigerlight Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Yeah, I did not manage to replace it with english su, but to be honest I did not try hard because it enables me to do whatever I wanted now, like freezing the shizz out of the bloat :) UPDATE: installed superuser app from chainfire which replaced the Chinese su successfully. Purrfect :-) Yeah, I managed to get the SuperSU binary installed after much patience and about a thousand attempts. Very happy now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grumpydev Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Yeah, I managed to get the SuperSU binary installed after much patience and about a thousand attempts. Very happy now. How? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grumpydev Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Looks like the rkflashtool in the zip is x64, just gives me "cannot execute binary file" when I try and run it on my x86 linux box .. doh! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest glossywhite Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Looks like the rkflashtool in the zip is x64, just gives me "cannot execute binary file" when I try and run it on my x86 linux box .. doh! :) Yup, it is - just checked, thanks: matt@i3-550 ~/Desktop/hudl.system.withsu.20130923.020558 $ file * flashsystem.hudl.sh: ASCII text rkflashtool: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.24, BuildID[sha1]=0x9f85b75e12034160e97bb498bae98c143b327740, stripped system.img: Linux rev 1.0 ext3 filesystem data, UUID=e6f13406-b87d-45b1-b9f1-0a82d2ca55ca, volume name "system" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest menace1944 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Yeah, I managed to get the SuperSU binary installed after much patience and about a thousand attempts. Very happy now. How? :-) I had been trying to get Chainfire SuperSU to install and remain installed instead of the Chinese version since I used the method in http://forum.xda-dev...d.php?t=2376077 on Tuesday. At long last, and several re-runs of the rooting software I seem to have succeeded. The way I finally did it was:- Root using XDA described method. Disconnect USB cable Install Chainfire SuperSU from Google Play Give SuperSU root access from Chinese superuser (click right button in dialog box) Open SuperSU and update it Close SuperSU Reset the hudl using a pin in the reset hole Restart hudl which is rooted and running SuperSU Under Settings | Apps | All, the Chinese superuser app has disappeared and only SuperSU was shown Don't understand why the pin reset was necessary rather than a reboot/restart but am delighted that it is now working and survives reboot/restarting without the Chinese app reappearing. The XDA method was the second rooting method I tried based on the hope that the hudl would behave like any current Archos tablet. Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TescoHudl Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Does rooting the Hudl using this method delete user data, such as apps and music? Sorry about asking such a dumb question but i really need to know the answer before rooting my device! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grumpydev Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 I had been trying to get Chainfire SuperSU to install and remain installed instead of the Chinese version since I used the method in http://forum.xda-dev...d.php?t=2376077 on Tuesday. At long last, and several re-runs of the rooting software I seem to have succeeded. The way I finally did it was:- Root using XDA described method. Disconnect USB cable Install Chainfire SuperSU from Google Play Give SuperSU root access from Chinese superuser (click right button in dialog box) Open SuperSU and update it Close SuperSU Reset the hudl using a pin in the reset hole Restart hudl which is rooted and running SuperSU Under Settings | Apps | All, the Chinese superuser app has disappeared and only SuperSU was shown Don't understand why the pin reset was necessary rather than a reboot/restart but am delighted that it is now working and survives reboot/restarting without the Chinese app reappearing. The XDA method was the second rooting method I tried based on the hope that the hudl would behave like any current Archos tablet. Dennis This method worked a treat for me.. I already had supersu installed, and when I rebooted it gave me a half chinese/half english prompt, clicked the right hand button then launched super su. Super told me su needed updating, chose the "normal" method and said yes to uninstalling others. Pressed the reset button once it had finished (not sure if this is necessary, but did it anyway) and root installed with no sign of the chinese one :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest menace1944 Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Does rooting the Hudl using this method delete user data, such as apps and music? Sorry about asking such a dumb question but i really need to know the answer before rooting my device! No, everything is still there. The only side effect was that disabled app (Chrome) was re-enabled due to the reset. I can't use Chrome as I need Flash working so have switched to Firefox Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest menace1944 Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 This method worked a treat for me.. I already had supersu installed, and when I rebooted it gave me a half chinese/half english prompt, clicked the right hand button then launched super su. Super told me su needed updating, chose the "normal" method and said yes to uninstalling others. Pressed the reset button once it had finished (not sure if this is necessary, but did it anyway) and root installed with no sign of the chinese one :) Pleased it worked for you. I am not sure if the reset is essential but with all my previous attempts using reboot / restart either I got the half Chinese / half English prompt returning after subsequent reboot or root was lost and couldn't be recovered without uninstalling SuperSU and running the whole rooting process from the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jamesglanville Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Awesome, this worked for me (the first post in the thread method). I needed root so I could read usb ntfs flash drives, so this has been incredibly helpful. I don't actually know if usb host functionality on the hudl is advertised, but it works nicely with usb drives/mice/keyboards/xbox 360 gamepads, so that's cool. I've ordered a 64gb micro sd card, which I think will actually work though it's over the advertised limit, if anyone is interested I'll post if it works/doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest darknessss Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Awesome, this worked for me (the first post in the thread method). I needed root so I could read usb ntfs flash drives, so this has been incredibly helpful. I don't actually know if usb host functionality on the hudl is advertised, but it works nicely with usb drives/mice/keyboards/xbox 360 gamepads, so that's cool. I've ordered a 64gb micro sd card, which I think will actually work though it's over the advertised limit, if anyone is interested I'll post if it works/doesn't. Yes please, let us know if it does or doesn't work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TescoHudl Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 No, everything is still there. The only side effect was that disabled app (Chrome) was re-enabled due to the reset. I can't use Chrome as I need Flash working so have switched to Firefox Dennis Wow, that's a surprise. When i rooted my Nexus 7, all the data was deleted, so this is excellent news! Rooting my Hudl right now; i will let everyone know if the process went okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TescoHudl Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 I don't understand how to do this! I've navigated to the extracted folder inside the terminal, and then typed: 'sudo bash sh flashroot.hudl.linux.sh'. It tells me that it cannot execute the binary file or something like that. When the Hudl is switched off, in flashing mode, there are no signs in Ubuntu at all that the device has been recognised whatsoever. The files on the device show up in Ubuntu when powered on, however. I'm wondering if this is what's causing the problem? I'm quite inexperienced using the terminal in Linux. It took me a good hour just to work out how to navigate to the extracted folder. :( Please, someone help! Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest glossywhite Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 (edited) I don't understand how to do this! I've navigated to the extracted folder inside the terminal, and then typed: 'sudo bash sh flashroot.hudl.linux.sh'. It tells me that it cannot execute the binary file or something like that. When the Hudl is switched off, in flashing mode, there are no signs in Ubuntu at all that the device has been recognised whatsoever. The files on the device show up in Ubuntu when powered on, however. I'm wondering if this is what's causing the problem? I'm quite inexperienced using the terminal in Linux. It took me a good hour just to work out how to navigate to the extracted folder. :( Please, someone help! Cheers! I can highly recommend a YouTube channel - "The urban penguin", and this video will give you a good start for bash commands: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptk6A-UEjWM Then come back in a few hours, days or weeks - depending on how confident you feel. Edited October 6, 2013 by glossywhite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grumpydev Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 If it's saying "cannot execute binary file" then that's Linux speak for "I don't understand how to run that" and it probably means: "you're trying to run an x64 binary on an x86 install". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TescoHudl Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 If it's saying "cannot execute binary file" then that's Linux speak for "I don't understand how to run that" and it probably means: "you're trying to run an x64 binary on an x86 install". Hmm... My computer is a 64 bit machine, and my Ubuntu 13.04 is also the correct 64 bit version. It can't be anything to do with that? I'm a bit unsure on this but perhaps the problem is being caused by running Ubuntu from a USB stick, or something like that. It's really difficult for me to do this root because the persistence on the USB doesn't seem to work; so every time shut down the computer i have to copy the files back over to the Ubuntu USB when i switch back on again. Is it okay if the Hudl doesn't show up in the file explorer, while in flashing mode? I can't help feeling that might have something do with it also. And, do i need the Android SDK installed? Someone really needs to make a tutorial to make this whole process a heck of a lot easier! For people like me who have little experience with Linux, this root is a complete nightmare... :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rem1x Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Hmm... My computer is a 64 bit machine, and my Ubuntu 13.04 is also the correct 64 bit version. It can't be anything to do with that? I'm a bit unsure on this but perhaps the problem is being caused by running Ubuntu from a USB stick, or something like that. It's really difficult for me to do this root because the persistence on the USB doesn't seem to work; so every time shut down the computer i have to copy the files back over to the Ubuntu USB when i switch back on again. Is it okay if the Hudl doesn't show up in the file explorer, while in flashing mode? I can't help feeling that might have something do with it also. And, do i need the Android SDK installed? Someone really needs to make a tutorial to make this whole process a heck of a lot easier! For people like me who have little experience with Linux, this root is a complete nightmare... :( There was a dodgy Chinese program mentioned, that works. (seems dodgy, though :P) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jamesglanville Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 (edited) Hmm... My computer is a 64 bit machine, and my Ubuntu 13.04 is also the correct 64 bit version. It can't be anything to do with that? I'm a bit unsure on this but perhaps the problem is being caused by running Ubuntu from a USB stick, or something like that. It's really difficult for me to do this root because the persistence on the USB doesn't seem to work; so every time shut down the computer i have to copy the files back over to the Ubuntu USB when i switch back on again. Is it okay if the Hudl doesn't show up in the file explorer, while in flashing mode? I can't help feeling that might have something do with it also. And, do i need the Android SDK installed? Someone really needs to make a tutorial to make this whole process a heck of a lot easier! For people like me who have little experience with Linux, this root is a complete nightmare... :( I rooted my hudl from a liveusb (didn't work in virtualbox :s), you should be able to copy the files to the root of the usb stick from windows (i assume?), then you can find them from linux once booted in /cdrom/. The hudl won't show up in the file explorer when in flashing mode, that's expected (it's not behaving as a mass storage/mtp device, just a weird recovery device) You don't need anything installed, the zip was enough for me with a recent version of ubuntu. EDIT: also "sudo bash sh flashroot.hudl.linux.sh" is weird, it should just be: sudo bash flashroot.hudl.linux.sh (the extra sh won't do anything at best, and will stop it working at worst) OR chmod +x flashroot.hudl.linux.sh (makes the script file executable) sudo ./flashroot.hudl.linux.sh (executes it) Edited October 7, 2013 by jamesglanville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TescoHudl Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 I rooted my hudl from a liveusb (didn't work in virtualbox :s), you should be able to copy the files to the root of the usb stick from windows (i assume?), then you can find them from linux once booted in /cdrom/. The hudl won't show up in the file explorer when in flashing mode, that's expected (it's not behaving as a mass storage/mtp device, just a weird recovery device) You don't need anything installed, the zip was enough for me with a recent version of ubuntu. Thank you for your helpful response. I also attempted to do the root in Virtualbox, but i had a right game trying to get the USB devices to work. In the end, i gave up because i wasn't getting anywhere with it. I correctly followed tutorials showing how to enable the USB's, but i got stuck at the part where you had to add the user account to some special group in the settings. The information you gave me about copying the files to the root of the memory card is very useful, i didn't realise it was possible to browse the contents of the live USB while actually inside the operating system. That advice will be very useful to me. Trying the root again now, hopefully it will work. If not, i will post some screenshots to show the issue i am getting. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TescoHudl Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 (edited) I've seen the extra bit you added on your comment James, about the command i was using. Inside the terminal, i would like to navigate to: /cdrom/hudl How would i type this? I've tried everything but i keep getting random errors telling me there is no such directory. Edited October 7, 2013 by TescoHudl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grumpydev Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 I don't know what live cd you're using, but it's probably in /cdrom or /mnt/cdrom (case sensitive) - if you type "cd /" then "ls" you can see the name of the files/folders there, then "cd foldername" move into it, then "ls" again until you find what you're looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TescoHudl Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Woohoo!!! Thanks guys! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest jamesglanville Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 I got my 64gb micro sd card today, and it works :) Having over 70gb of useable space in total is making me glad I got this and not a nexus 7... http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007JTKM30 was the card btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peggy_zhou Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Rooting..... Excepting a better performance! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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