Guest cygwinxp Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 How many free memory left on WM2003 comparing with WM2003 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest squall Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 How many free memory left on WM2003 comparing with WM2003 ? heheheh at a guess the same? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 Squall that's not very helpful [-X You know what the question was ment to say :P I can't remember what I had on 2002 :oops: but 2003 has 11.48MB physical memory free and 4.71MB Storage (IPSM) This is not after a Hard Reset though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cygwinxp Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 It seems WM2003 use more program memory. I have 18MB free program memory on WM2002. IPSM free memory is 3.8MB. Both of them are important, if you installed too many apps. Some apps cannot be installed on Storage card. One example is Orneta Notepad which I need it everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest squall Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 id expect 2003 to take up more space, it has more elements, ie .net etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TANKERx Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 I don't want to belittle @nonymous' work at all so don't take this as such; The amount of free memory on an MPx200 with WM2003, both in terms of storage and program memory, suggests to me that the MPx200 isn't up to running it. It is severely reduced. Under 2002, I can run far more apps at once without running short of program memory while under 2003, I could only load a few and then, if I was using Mapopolis I could only load a few small counties along with National Roads. As far as storage is concerned, installing big apps becomes a potential no-no because of the temp files stored in the main memory while now that I'm back under 2002 I'm able to install SwingCat.exe ;-) to IPSM. To think that @nonymous worked at stripping stuff out of the ROM, one has to wonder what on earth was put onto the phones of those 'special people' who got the official version and whether or not they have enough space to store Pinhead.doc ;-) !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chudy Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 mpx200 built-in memory: RAM: 32 MB, Flash ROM: 32 MB, processor PXA250 @ 200 MHz orange e200 built-in memory: RAM: 32 MB, Flash ROM: 32 MB, processor TI OMAP 710 @ 132 MHz samsung i600 built-in memory: RAM: 32 MB, Flash ROM: 48 MB, processor PXA250 @ 200 MHz mitac 8390 built-in memory: RAM: 32 MB, Flash ROM: 32 MB + 16 MB, processor PXA262 @ 200 Mhz and for reference mpx220 built-in memory: RAM: 32 MB, Flash ROM: 64 MB, processor TI OMAP 1611 @ 200 MHz also an excerpt from an article i found online.... ....."While for devices having 16 MB RAM an upgrade to Smartphone 2003, although technically possible, is practically not useful, all smartphones with 32 MB RAM can be easily upgraded to Smartphone 2003. Among Smartphone 2002 powered cellphones Motorola MPx200 and Samsung i600 both have 32 MB RAM..." TANKERx, to me it is quite clear that the mpx200 is perfectly suited for the WM2003 firmware...it is more than capable of running the new OS without any problems.... do some reading and i'm sure you'll realize the same... additionally...thanks to @nonymous and others we have freedom of choice...you want to run branded Smartphons 2002 firmware go right ahead, do you prefer a choice of generic/unbranded Smarphone 2002 generic, they're available! or do you fency the latest and the greatest(? :P ) and want to run Smarphone 2003? hehe...to each they're own i guess...but thankfully we've got options to choose from! cheers, chudy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 TANKERx now you know why the mpx200 with 2002 runs faster than the E200 with 2003 (also the larger memory cache on the mpx200 helps) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TANKERx Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 mpx200 built-in memory: RAM: 32 MB, Flash ROM: 32 MB, processor PXA250 @ 200 MHz orange e200 built-in memory: RAM: 32 MB, Flash ROM: 32 MB, processor TI OMAP 710 @ 132 MHz samsung i600 built-in memory: RAM: 32 MB, Flash ROM: 48 MB, processor PXA250 @ 200 MHz mitac 8390 built-in memory: RAM: 32 MB, Flash ROM: 32 MB + 16 MB, processor PXA262 @ 200 Mhz and for reference mpx220 built-in memory: RAM: 32 MB, Flash ROM: 64 MB, processor TI OMAP 1611 @ 200 MHz also an excerpt from an article i found online.... ....."While for devices having 16 MB RAM an upgrade to Smartphone 2003, although technically possible, is practically not useful, all smartphones with 32 MB RAM can be easily upgraded to Smartphone 2003. Among Smartphone 2002 powered cellphones Motorola MPx200 and Samsung i600 both have 32 MB RAM..." TANKERx, to me it is quite clear that the mpx200 is perfectly suited for the WM2003 firmware...it is more than capable of running the new OS without any problems.... do some reading and i'm sure you'll realize the same... additionally...thanks to @nonymous and others we have freedom of choice...you want to run branded Smartphons 2002 firmware go right ahead, do you prefer a choice of generic/unbranded Smarphone 2002 generic, they're available! or do you fency the latest and the greatest(? :P ) and want to run Smarphone 2003? Â hehe...to each they're own i guess...but thankfully we've got options to choose from! Â cheers, chudy Hey fella, calm down already! I've made it perfectly clear in this post and others that I'm not disrespecting the work of @nonymous at all so don't start! As for the RAM values you quote, all I can go by is what I've seen on my phone. Under 2002 on my phone, I can run far more applications at once without running out of memory. Under 2002, I can install Lextionary without running out of internal memory. Under 2003, I can run far fewer applications and I have to install lextionary using a convoluted method of copying the .CAB file to the SD card first. I accept that I may have installed the 2003 image wrongly and that may have filled up my phone's memory, but you quoting all the numbers this side of Galactic Central Point will not change the fact that my MPx200, under 2003, ran out of memory far quicker while using Mobipocket or Mapopolis. I'll check the numbers you gave me mate, but it won't make my phone work any better. And this is not, as I said, to disrespect @nonymous. I wouldn't know where to start with hacking a ROM. And as for choice, then cool, go for it, but this topic is about program memory and I expressed an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chudy Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 double post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chudy Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 TANKERx, it wasnt my intention to attack you or be agressive, so my apologies if it came across that way...i just wanted to give a reference point of hardware specs for diff phones and do a little comparison... i realize that the mpx200 has less usable space with WM2003 than it did with 2002, i've come across issues concerning it as well....but it seems like the e200 (maybe others) have the same issues and they've been designed to be WM2003 phones from the get go... for some people (like me) WM2003 is the preffered OS due to the under-the-hood technologies it brings to the table...so i'll have to live with the memory shortcomings, for those who need more ram space and dont take advantage of the new features in WM2003, 2002 is the OS of choice. chudy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest beersoft Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 errm my mpx200 seems to have a ARM OMAP 710 cpu in it the latest build from @nonymous give me 5.31 available storage 8.18 total storage 10.71 available memory 17.66 total memory its defo less than before 2k3 by a few meg on each i think later Owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chudy Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 haha, i knew i'd screw up somewhere :P thanks for the correction! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest beersoft Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 hehehe most of the time its me who gets it wrong :P later Owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cygwinxp Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 I just do a master reset on my MW2002. After that I installed most of apps to SD card. Some apps cannot be installed on SD card. It gives me: ------------------------------------- Total memory: 28.41MB Storage memory: 3.52MB used: 432.04KB free: 3.09MB Program Memory: 24.89MB used: 5.07MB free: 19.82MB IPSM : 11.03MB used: 2.98MB free: 8.05MB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gravity Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 I was under the impression the MPx200 had an 132 mhz processor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TANKERx Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 TANKERx, it wasnt my intention to attack you or be agressive, so my apologies if it came across that way...i just wanted to give a reference point of hardware specs for diff phones and do a little comparison... i realize that the mpx200 has less usable space with WM2003 than it did with 2002, i've come across issues concerning it as well....but it seems like the e200 (maybe others) have the same issues and they've been designed to be WM2003 phones from the get go... for some people (like me) WM2003 is the preffered OS due to the under-the-hood technologies it brings to the table...so i'll have to live with the memory shortcomings, for those who need more ram space and dont take advantage of the new features in WM2003, 2002 is the OS of choice. chudy Sorry for jumping down your throat. Peace :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AvWijk Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 True, the MPx200 runs at 132Mhz, not at 200Mhz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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