Guest lutzh Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Hi there, this is a crazy tool: TinyGPS reads out cell ID's and can start events like profile switch, homescreen switch, on/off your phone based on trained cell ID's!!! TinyGPS enables receiving information about location of your phone in your GSM network. It also shows name of your current location (if your GSM operator provides it). You can "teach" your phone locations which are important for you like: home, school, work, train station, church etc. Then you can set up events based on entering or leaving chosen location. For example your phone can automatically switch profile to Silent when you come home. If you commute to work by train you can set up alarm which will wake you up when you arrive to the train station - even if your train is late!How to teach my phone? Since in big cities you are usually in range of a few network cells (even when you stay in the same place) your phone should learn them all. Choose Menu/Learn. Select location you want your phone to learn, time of learning and press Start. All cells you are logged in during that time will be assigned to selected location. Events You can create events based on the location you enter or leave. To set up new event choose Menu/Events and Press New. Select action (enter or leave), location and desired action. The action can be one of the following: Change home screen - changes home screen to chosen one Change profile - switches to desired profile Play sound (alarm) - plays chosen wav file Power off - switches the phone off Vibrate - makes your phone vibrate I've tested the trial available HERE! Check it out - works on e200/c500 (decertified only). Now I have the always wanted automated profile switcher when I arrive in the Cell that covers my office.... JUST GREAT!!! Cheers, Lutz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maverick Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Cool !! Its works then... Ms Mobiles was claiming that it doesnt, on her site :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chucky.egg Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Is msmobiles a "her"? I thought from the picture it could have gone either way, nice to have it confirmed! :) Anyway... This has been out on Symbian for a while, and in my experience actions based on CellID are too vague - simple things like bad weather can make you "swap" cells and trigger events! If they could add a GPS function to it that would be cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bosshogg Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 doesn't work for me :) - do Orange UK broadcast cell info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flashflash Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 currently does not work with mpx200 (2003) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest glenglen66 Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 add a map on that app and then it will be great! i really want a gps system on my mobile which is free and feel this method is the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cosmoOo Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 hmm, doesn't work on my C500. I bought it in the netherlands I get the 'you cannot run this application on locked phone....' error. Ok, unlocked the phone and it is working now. I only have to move to test the application, So i'll see tomorrow if the program is of any use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Osiris Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Yeah I got lucky and got a copy of MiniGPS for symbian free, when I had my Nokia 7650. As someone else said they are vague and the program can be more trouble then its worth. be intresting to see how this one went, but I didnt even like the one I got for free all the while back then, little own payng 15 pound for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nickcornaglia Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 It would be cool if the app can trigger an FTP session to broadcast your location on a website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest doyle_am Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Encece, keep an eye out... something may be coming soon that does just that. But it uses a GPS to give an exact location rather than a network cell that I've found can be stupidly big. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul [MVP] Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 I've tried the app, pretty neat - a few bugs that are being fixed tho. I have been trying to write something using the CellID stuff in .net CF, and have so far failed, so i'd love to know how they do it! ;-) P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nickcornaglia Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Encece, keep an eye out... something may be coming soon that does just that. But it uses a GPS to give an exact location rather than a network cell that I've found can be stupidly big. :) You make that and I'll buy a BT GPS! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nedge2k Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Had this for a couple of days...pretty good :P Expect bug fixes next week and a review to follow :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jon_ Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 i really like the automatic profile change facility of it, usefull for a number of things :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Wagstaff Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 It's cool... very cool! :) The idea of setting up definable actions based upon your location is very neat, although I have to say that other than switching your profile to "silent" when at work, I'm struggling for ideas. I'd love to see some sort of open API so that end-users could create custom actions. Maybe even a simple option to execute a command of your choosing? Additionally, I'd be a little concerned about how this affects battery life. Mind you, I've left it running all day and so far I'm still my battery indicator is still on full, so I'm probably being paranoid. Also, one obvious bug that I've noticed so far is that when you set it to switch your profile as an event, the profile screen is left on after the event has triggered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul [MVP] Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 The bugs I have found so far is the autostart option doesn't work, and you can't turn logging off. I asked for functionality where we can execute a seperate program with a command line on an event, let's see if that happens! P (still trying to understand how they managed to get cell info without PRIV access... I want to do it!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lutzh Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 i see that the tool is interesting you just as much as me - good to see ;-) what i hate is the fact that it has the same problems in switching profile like every try before had: once you lock the keys it can't fully switch and stays stucked in profile selection. same experience like i had with xbar and the makros to switch profile and the smart watcher. i don't believe there is a workaround for it but who knows. cheers, lutz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Wagstaff Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 what i hate is the fact that it has the same problems in switching profile like every try before had: once you lock the keys it can't fully switch and stays stucked in profile selection. same experience like i had with xbar and the makros to switch profile and the smart watcher. i don't believe there is a workaround for it but who knows. I'm not a developer by trade, but one potential kludge might be to append a (user optional) "return to homescreen" command after an event. After all, I'm betting that returning to the homescreen would be a safe enough bet even if you weren't there originally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maverick Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 "]still trying to understand how they managed to get cell info without PRIV access... I want to do it! My guess would be that they somehow managed to use the Cell broadcast Homescreen plugin dll.. If I were u, I would get hold of the dll and find out :). Also, Another cool idea would be to automatically trigger Activesync via BT, say 10 minutes after you enter a particular location. So if ur home PC is on when you come in.. u'll be in sync always :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flashflash Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 "]P (still trying to understand how they managed to get cell info without PRIV access... I want to do it!) If you manage to find out, I would be gratefull if you shared the info. Ive been trying to work it out for the last year, and cant find anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jon_ Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 what would be VERY usefull is if when entering home (or office) locations, bluetooth turns on and attempts to activsync via bluetooth, that would gurantee this programs popularity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maverick Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 what would be VERY usefull is if when entering home (or office) locations, bluetooth turns on and attempts to activsync via bluetooth, that would gurantee this programs popularity! I should start patenting my ideas.. even though I can never ever convert those ideas into reality :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr_StrangeTrick Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 Autostart works on my E200 and the setting the logging to off works as well :) Same problem about changing profiles when the keypad is locked though :P As the program is still 'experimental' it would be useful to see the cell/location on the homescreen so I can keep an eye on what's going on (or not as the case may be) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MaJiK Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 Also, Another cool idea would be to automatically trigger Activesync via BT, say 10 minutes after you enter a particular location. So if ur home PC is on when you come in.. u'll be in sync always Ohhhhh :) That would be sooooper ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest markhempstead Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 i see that the tool is interesting you just as much as me - good to see ;-) what i hate is the fact that it has the same problems in switching profile like every try before had: once you lock the keys it can't fully switch and stays stucked in profile selection. same experience like i had with xbar and the makros to switch profile and the smart watcher. i don't believe there is a workaround for it but who knows. cheers, lutz It's fixed - handango and smartphone.net now have version 1.01 which changes profile when the handset is locked :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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