Guest jcostantino Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 (edited) I've been using this off and on and from what I can tell - the battery life is horrible. I've only had the phone since Monday and with light use, it seems like I can barely get a day and a half out of it. Right now I'm trying to run the battery down all the way to see if that might help it out somehow. Maybe a full discharge/charge cycle will reset the battery meter since I did start using it immediately without charging it first. What sort of battery life should I be getting if I use GPRS to browse the web, have a couple services downloading in the background like NewsGrabber and SPB Weather, and use the PDA functions? The only non-standard thing I'm doing is using xcpuscaler to overclock to 220mhz (and the automatic throttling to underclock to 154 at idle). My Cingular 2125 always had plenty of battery even when overclocked to 240mhz, backlight on full, BT on, junk running in the background... obviously this is completely different but it's similar in CPU. Maybe the larger display takes up more juice to keep running? I've disabled my push mail and I never have the wlan on unless I'm specifically using it which isn't often since it doesn't seem to be that much faster than EDGE when I'm using Pocket IE. Any ideas? I've been streaming internet video for the past half an hour and it's only gone from 65 to 50% battery so maybe running the battery flat and recharging it could help? edit - forgot to mention that I have the AKU 2.6 update from Tmo USA on it but I guess you could infer that from the fact I disabled my push email. Edited October 5, 2006 by jcostantino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pdtp Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 ill get 2 1/2 days of use out of my phone and that with it checking the mail over edge (not Push email) every 15 min and light use of the phone itself (mabey 10-20 min total talktime in the day) and some solitare. i did have it checking the mail every 2 min and that cut my batt time down to 1 1/2 days also what i have noticed is that anytime i over clock it at all it starts to eat huge chunks of my batt time. so if your overclocking perity much all them time you actualy use it i would say thats the reason why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jcostantino Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 That's about the life I expect. Nine times out of ten I charged my Tornado at the end of the night, sometimes I missed a day but I rarely had an issue where the low battery indicator came on. The overclocking program raises and lowers the mhz based upon CPU load (like Tornado Power Control) and I have it set to 182, 195, 208, and 221 MHz. I used to be able to get 240 mhz out of my Tornado but different chips have different tolerences. Since the CPU is at 182 mhz from 0-15%, most of the time when it's in my pocket it shouldn't be consuming any more power than usual. I ran the battery down to the point where the automatic cutoff shut down the system down without any warning and now I'm recharging. It took about 20 minutes to get down to about 3% from 35% streaming video over WIFI where it shut off. It's been charging (on USB) for 1:15 and if it continues at this rate it seems like it'll fully charge. My other option is an extended run battery but from what I can tell, it sticks out with a custom battery door and makes the phone EVEN THICKER. ill get 2 1/2 days of use out of my phone and that with it checking the mail over edge (not Push email) every 15 min and light use of the phone itself (mabey 10-20 min total talktime in the day) and some solitare. i did have it checking the mail every 2 min and that cut my batt time down to 1 1/2 days also what i have noticed is that anytime i over clock it at all it starts to eat huge chunks of my batt time. so if your overclocking perity much all them time you actualy use it i would say thats the reason why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Confucious Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 I don't have a wizard but if I use WiFi on my Universa; it eats the battery! I haven't used it since I got unlimited 3G, it is very, very power hungry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pdtp Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 (edited) The overclocking program raises and lowers the mhz based upon CPU load (like Tornado Power Control) and I have it set to 182, 195, 208, and 221 MHz. I used to be able to get 240 mhz out of my Tornado but different chips have different tolerences. Since the CPU is at 182 mhz from 0-15%, most of the time when it's in my pocket it shouldn't be consuming any more power than usual. yea im still leaning twords the overclocking. i would only raise my cpu speed when i needed to surf the web and usualy within 20 min of it being overclocked (240 mhz) and having wifi turned on i will loose 25-30% of my batt. overclocking just sucks the life right out of the phone, and it gets hot too :rolleyes: Edited October 6, 2006 by pdtp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jcostantino Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 (edited) I dropped it down to 203 mhz max which isn't much of an overclock. My guess is the power consumption scales up faster than the mhz does and the CPU is rated at 200 mhz but clocked at 180. Right now I have 74% battery. This is what I have done today: Taken phone off charger at 7:45am and it is 1:45pm now. Received a SMS, sent a reply. Talked on the phone for about 25 minutes. Set two or three appointments in the PIM, used the PDA functions for maybe 10-15 minutes total. I also turned off BT from the comms manager just to see if that would make a big difference. I never even used the internet and the wifi is always off. It seems a little excessive that I should have lost 25% of my battery in 6 hours with what in my opinion is extremely light usage. There isn't anything running in the background ever thanks to HandySwitcher. I have the LCD brightness second to the lowest. It's possible that there is a hardware problem. My battery could be defective or something... the LCD display is damaged*** (returning the phone on Monday) so maybe there is a tiny short circuit in the LCD? Anything is possible.... BTW: It went from 74 to 72% just now with the backlight on for 3-4 minutes. ***The left side of the LCD has an area that runs from top to bottom and is about 3 pixels wide that mirrors some other columns.. hard to describe. I just had a phone call and my battery dropped to 69%. I'm going to leave Xcpuscaler off for a few hours and see if that changes anything. I just don't see it causing this much battery drain. My Tornado wouldn't get under 70% until I got home at night and it was using Tornado Power Control to overclock to 240mhz. I browsed the internet for about 5 minutes and my battery is at 65%. I'm going to pack up the phone and send it today instead of Monday. Edit: I just boxed the whole damn thing up and sent it back to the company for an exchange. I honestly think there was something wrong deep in the guts of it since it just ran so poorly. yea im still leaning twords the overclocking. i would only raise my cpu speed when i needed to surf the web and usualy within 20 min of it being overclocked (240 mhz) and having wifi turned on i will loose 25-30% of my batt. overclocking just sucks the life right out of the phone, and it gets hot too :rolleyes: Edited October 6, 2006 by jcostantino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RIMODAR Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 I dropped it down to 203 mhz max which isn't much of an overclock. My guess is the power consumption scales up faster than the mhz does and the CPU is rated at 200 mhz but clocked at 180. Right now I have 74% battery. This is what I have done today: Taken phone off charger at 7:45am and it is 1:45pm now. Received a SMS, sent a reply. Talked on the phone for about 25 minutes. Set two or three appointments in the PIM, used the PDA functions for maybe 10-15 minutes total. I also turned off BT from the comms manager just to see if that would make a big difference. I never even used the internet and the wifi is always off. It seems a little excessive that I should have lost 25% of my battery in 6 hours with what in my opinion is extremely light usage. There isn't anything running in the background ever thanks to HandySwitcher. I have the LCD brightness second to the lowest. It's possible that there is a hardware problem. My battery could be defective or something... the LCD display is damaged*** (returning the phone on Monday) so maybe there is a tiny short circuit in the LCD? Anything is possible.... BTW: It went from 74 to 72% just now with the backlight on for 3-4 minutes. ***The left side of the LCD has an area that runs from top to bottom and is about 3 pixels wide that mirrors some other columns.. hard to describe. I just had a phone call and my battery dropped to 69%. I'm going to leave Xcpuscaler off for a few hours and see if that changes anything. I just don't see it causing this much battery drain. My Tornado wouldn't get under 70% until I got home at night and it was using Tornado Power Control to overclock to 240mhz. I browsed the internet for about 5 minutes and my battery is at 65%. I'm going to pack up the phone and send it today instead of Monday. Edit: I just boxed the whole damn thing up and sent it back to the company for an exchange. I honestly think there was something wrong deep in the guts of it since it just ran so poorly. HI, is your keyboard lit even when you close it? Mine is and I am getting the same battery life. I got mine from ebay.co.uk It was perfect until I saw the battery stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gsm1 Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 (edited) I used to get about 2 days, but now my battery life is maybe a day or less. Would a reset help battery life at all? I have push mail active, which seems to be a little flakey lately too. Edited February 19, 2007 by gsm1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mini_man Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 I dropped it down to 203 mhz max which isn't much of an overclock. My guess is the power consumption scales up faster than the mhz does and the CPU is rated at 200 mhz but clocked at 180. Right now I have 74% battery. This is what I have done today: Taken phone off charger at 7:45am and it is 1:45pm now. Received a SMS, sent a reply. Talked on the phone for about 25 minutes. Set two or three appointments in the PIM, used the PDA functions for maybe 10-15 minutes total. I also turned off BT from the comms manager just to see if that would make a big difference. I never even used the internet and the wifi is always off. It seems a little excessive that I should have lost 25% of my battery in 6 hours with what in my opinion is extremely light usage. There isn't anything running in the background ever thanks to HandySwitcher. I have the LCD brightness second to the lowest. It's possible that there is a hardware problem. My battery could be defective or something... the LCD display is damaged*** (returning the phone on Monday) so maybe there is a tiny short circuit in the LCD? Anything is possible.... BTW: It went from 74 to 72% just now with the backlight on for 3-4 minutes. ***The left side of the LCD has an area that runs from top to bottom and is about 3 pixels wide that mirrors some other columns.. hard to describe. I just had a phone call and my battery dropped to 69%. I'm going to leave Xcpuscaler off for a few hours and see if that changes anything. I just don't see it causing this much battery drain. My Tornado wouldn't get under 70% until I got home at night and it was using Tornado Power Control to overclock to 240mhz. I browsed the internet for about 5 minutes and my battery is at 65%. I'm going to pack up the phone and send it today instead of Monday. Edit: I just boxed the whole damn thing up and sent it back to the company for an exchange. I honestly think there was something wrong deep in the guts of it since it just ran so poorly. I have exactly your problem! it sickens me how pathetic my vario is! I have a new battery now and its off and charging to full and I will test it out tomorow and post back my results but Ive made a 20 minute phone call before and it dropped about 10% pathetic? I think so. Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mini_man Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 I dropped it down to 203 mhz max which isn't much of an overclock. My guess is the power consumption scales up faster than the mhz does and the CPU is rated at 200 mhz but clocked at 180. Right now I have 74% battery. This is what I have done today: Taken phone off charger at 7:45am and it is 1:45pm now. Received a SMS, sent a reply. Talked on the phone for about 25 minutes. Set two or three appointments in the PIM, used the PDA functions for maybe 10-15 minutes total. I also turned off BT from the comms manager just to see if that would make a big difference. I never even used the internet and the wifi is always off. It seems a little excessive that I should have lost 25% of my battery in 6 hours with what in my opinion is extremely light usage. There isn't anything running in the background ever thanks to HandySwitcher. I have the LCD brightness second to the lowest. It's possible that there is a hardware problem. My battery could be defective or something... the LCD display is damaged*** (returning the phone on Monday) so maybe there is a tiny short circuit in the LCD? Anything is possible.... BTW: It went from 74 to 72% just now with the backlight on for 3-4 minutes. ***The left side of the LCD has an area that runs from top to bottom and is about 3 pixels wide that mirrors some other columns.. hard to describe. I just had a phone call and my battery dropped to 69%. I'm going to leave Xcpuscaler off for a few hours and see if that changes anything. I just don't see it causing this much battery drain. My Tornado wouldn't get under 70% until I got home at night and it was using Tornado Power Control to overclock to 240mhz. I browsed the internet for about 5 minutes and my battery is at 65%. I'm going to pack up the phone and send it today instead of Monday. Edit: I just boxed the whole damn thing up and sent it back to the company for an exchange. I honestly think there was something wrong deep in the guts of it since it just ran so poorly. I have exactly your problem! it sickens me how pathetic my vario is! I have a new battery now and its off and charging to full and I will test it out tomorow and post back my results but Ive made a 20 minute phone call before and it dropped about 10% pathetic? I think so. Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mini_man Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 I recieved 6 text messages, 2 minutes of phone calls and sent 3 text messages out. Backlight is on the dimmest, bluetooth off. And I always turn the screen off when not in use. 83% Thats wrong, very wrong. From 7:30 till 3:30 that was, then it dropped down to 77% after 20 minutes of A2DP, but surely dropping 17% is not reasonable on complete minimum useage on a new battery! Im wondering if its todo with the chipset? I have a G4, jcostantino when you turn your phone on what is the ipl number that comes up because I have a feeling it might just be G4 Chipsets that do this. Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mini_man Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294573 Have you looked at this? I will report my changes. Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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