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[afhstingray]

one other thing, when you slide it open , and you have that quick menu, wouldnt it have been more intelligent to allocate each item on the menu a number .... that way you can slide it open and press a button, very fast action if u remember the numbers

[PaulOBrien]

The 'action key' (ie pressing the dpad) starts a new line.

P

[mattie01]

I used my misses contract to upgrade her orange phone and had it unlocked for t-mobile by the time orange registered the new sim i got which she then "dual"ly put into her old phone,     I really do love this phone.

some points that stick with me when going from a varioII to the touch dual
the size, its alot more, "have around" meaning its easier to have it in your pocket, i dont get the urge to look over my should as i use the phone incase someone is laughing at the person in the pub with the brick for a phone
and the speed as someone said thier have been times when it has had 10 apps open and still moving though the menus fairly swiftly.
i'm sure this will be improved even more so when clean roms are relased that take out all the bloat that comes with alot of roms now days.


if anyone is thinking of converting from a varioII or varioIII (tytnII) and is woried about the lack of a keyboard the softkeyboard on this phoen is just fab, and i have adjusted in no time at all.
(using the hardware keyboard) for short messages and the software one for longer emails.

the features like the large start bar/ start menus and the zoomed in battery icon/ signal when touching the bar is another easy but inotive feature i am finding less and less use for the stylus which is a very nice feeling.
Incase anyone is intrested aswell the "modaco red box around the xt9 and abc mode" works really well for letting me know whch software keyboard mode i am in


sorry this started out as a quick reply and turned into a mini review...
guess i got carried away

Edited by mattie01, 15 December 2007 - 04:08 PM.

[mattie01]

To the people that mentioned about wanting improved battery life,
(i have an unlimited data package and i have push email running constantly which does drain the bat abit)

The trick i used on my varioII was to use a custom created shourtcut in the comm manager that switched the phone from "3G/HSDPA" to "GPRS"

so that i would set it to use "GPRS" (alot less drain on battery then 3G/hspda) for when the phone i was just generally on. as i dont really care about it being connected at HSPDA speed if all it is doing is pulling in email headers slightly slower.

but then when i wanted to surf from the phone or use it as a modem. i would just turn on "3G/HSPDA" then back off when i was finished,
this inceased battery useage ALOT. as 3g was only in use for a couple of hours a day rather then all day!. but i guess its down to how you want the phoen connected when your not using it as a phone, for me its a non issue but i guess someone people will have a reason for wanting 3g on all the time.

it also had the side effect of increasing my signal as i getting a stronger signal on gprs (well thats what it reports) and i noticed alot less disconnects,
this signal strengh thing could just all be in my head so if anyone wants to give it a try feel free...

Edited by mattie01, 15 December 2007 - 04:10 PM.

[Syphon Filter]

Best WinMo device ever eh?

Really though? It looks great...the SureType is the one I'd get for sure...but really Paul? Best ever? A bold claim indeed...GPS would be good.

[stesa]

I can't say if Dual is the "Best WinMo device ever" but after one mounth using it I surely can say that Dual is the first WMphone more easy to use than a Nokia or anyother smartphone and cells

[ror100]

mattie01, on Dec 15 2007, 15:22, said:

To the people that mentioned about wanting improved battery life,
(i have an unlimited data package and i have push email running constantly which does drain the bat abit)

The trick i used on my varioII was to use a custom created shourtcut in the comm manager that switched the phone from "3G/HSDPA" to "GPRS"

so that i would set it to use "GPRS" (alot less drain on battery then 3G/hspda) for when the phone i was just generally on. as i dont really care about it being connected at HSPDA speed if all it is doing is pulling in email headers slightly slower.

but then when i wanted to surf from the phone or use it as a modem. i would just turn on "3G/HSPDA" then back off when i was finished,
this inceased battery useage ALOT. as 3g was only in use for a couple of hours a day rather then all day!. but i guess its down to how you want the phoen connected when your not using it as a phone, for me its a non issue but i guess someone people will have a reason for wanting 3g on all the time.

it also had the side effect of increasing my signal as i getting a stronger signal on gprs (well thats what it reports) and i noticed alot less disconnects,
this signal strengh thing could just all be in my head so if anyone wants to give it a try feel free...

Now this sounds like the ideal tweak for me!  Any tips on how to do it?

[mattie01]

ror100, on Dec 15 2007, 18:08, said:

Now this sounds like the ideal tweak for me!  Any tips on how to do it?

i used to run a app created by schaps called advance config,  but the late version i tried would turn the touch dual to "gsm/gprs" but would not turn it back to 3g...

it works fine on the varioII and on the kasier, so i'm sure it just changes a couple of reg keys, and someone could prob do a cab just to do this. if i find a working one i'll post up here...

[greenturtle]

Sorry this is a silly question.

Can you answer/end a call by Sliding Open/Close the device?

[ror100]

greenturtle, on Dec 15 2007, 23:02, said:

Sorry this is a silly question.

Can you answer/end a call by Sliding Open/Close the device?

I tried this yesterday, you can answer a call by sliding, but by closing it doesn't end the call.  Totally wasted opportunity IMO.

[greenturtle]

Sucky.... Thank you for answering my question. Makes a change.

Edited by greenturtle, 16 December 2007 - 02:26 AM.

[mattie01]

has anyone tried increasing the size of the paging file yet? this is something we did on the hermes hier was 4mb and 6mb versions avalible, the downside to the larger paging file was the use of extra ramso it was quicker but used more space, as we have a device running 256mb rather then 128mb, i was wondering if anyone had tweaked the paging file yet?

also has anyone seen a decent car holder for this phone yet?

[shodanjr_gr]

I REAAAAAALLY wish this one had WiFi...not all countries have affordable flat-data tarrifs so the Touch Dual is a no go for me. Too bad, considering i LOVED the design (basically the first PPC phone that has a keypad and looks half-normal and not something out of an 80s scifi film). Wasted oportunity if you ask me...Lack of GPS is also a disadvantage, but not nearly as much as the lack of Wireless (which also comes in usefull when you are roaming).

[mattie01]

mattie01, on Dec 15 2007, 21:50, said:

i used to run a app created by schaps called advance config,  but the late version i tried would turn the touch dual to "gsm/gprs" but would not turn it back to 3g...

it works fine on the varioII and on the kasier, so i'm sure it just changes a couple of reg keys, and someone could prob do a cab just to do this. if i find a working one i'll post up here...

ok i found version 1.0 of the advance config and it does seem to work on the touch dual.  its switches from 3g to gsm fine, but it seems to take a few seconds once you switch back it goes to connects at gsm then takes a couple of seconds to move to 3g/hsdpa speed. it allows you to configure alot of other things aswell as what you can select from the com manager,

[neilg]

does it support micro SDHC cards?

Edited by neilg, 17 December 2007 - 09:42 AM.

[PaulOBrien]

Yeah, i'm using an 8GB SanDisk microSDHC in mine.

P

[neilg]

Paul (MVP), on Dec 17 2007, 09:43, said:

Yeah, i'm using an 8GB SanDisk microSDHC in mine.

P

thanks and cool - still looking for an i600 replacement - will give one of these a go - been nearly a year on the i600, time to go back to win mo professional!

[Ovie]

neilg, on Dec 17 2007, 17:40, said:

thanks and cool - still looking for an i600 replacement - will give one of these a go - been nearly a year on the i600, time to go back to win mo professional!

Have you seen the up and coming i780 though? Looks wicked!

[OzzMosiz]

shodanjr_gr, on Dec 16 2007, 10:27, said:

I REAAAAAALLY wish this one had WiFi...not all countries have affordable flat-data tarrifs so the Touch Dual is a no go for me. Too bad, considering i LOVED the design (basically the first PPC phone that has a keypad and looks half-normal and not something out of an 80s scifi film). Wasted oportunity if you ask me...Lack of GPS is also a disadvantage, but not nearly as much as the lack of Wireless (which also comes in usefull when you are roaming).

I'll agree with that! No Wifi and no GPS makes it almost useless to me (ok useless may be an exaggeration).

[neilg]

ok so i have my 20 key touch dual.  so far:
1) With screen protector touch flow is much worse than witout - I am not sure if this is because the suppplied protector isnt very good or if i am just not being foreceful enough but works way better without one.
2) I am really missing my 'return/back' key from my smartphone - is there an equivalent, or a shortcut that always presses the 'ok' key.  I am mainly having this when I view a new email and then want to return to inbox (which is how I have my settings) on smartphone I owudl just hit the back button - can I do this somehow on PPC?

All this is about me relearning PPC rather than SP so I'll get there, anone else who has made the switch and has tips - all advice appreciated!!  (sorry a bit off topic so redirect me somewhere more relevant!)

So far though very impressed with the touch, the keypad, touchflow and the HTC homescreen!