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Is there any benefit to be had by tweaking the wifi scan interval in the registry on the Navizon app apart from watching the power drain down quicker?

p.s Paul, if you don't mind me asking what % of your points are from referrals or are you permanently in your car to rack up you no 1 spot?

My own break down of points to date is as follows

Wifi before 2008/01/24             16%
Cell towers before 2008/01/24 7%
Wifi discovered by you              29%
Cell towers discovered by you 23%
Wifi already mapped                12%
Cell towers already mapped 3%
Points from other users             10%

How does this compare to others?


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View Postwjat, on Mar 16 2008, 09:13, said:

Is there any benefit to be had by tweaking the wifi scan interval in the registry on the Navizon app apart from watching the power drain down quicker?

It picks up more WiFi location.

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View Posttsutton, on Mar 17 2008, 09:48, said:

It picks up more WiFi location.

Hi guys,

I've been a Navizon user for sometime, but only this week started to use CamerAware.
Can you tell me the wifi scan interval in CamerAware?
In Navizon I had it set to 5 seconds, but I seem to be picking up less AP's with CamerAware.

Thanks


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I know this might have been asked before but I can't search through 24 pages of postings.

Has anyone else had trouble uninstalling Navizon. On my SVP M700 with Windows Mobile 5, I try and remove the program and all looks fine but then every time I restart the phone, I get an error saying it can't find the Navizon.exe file. Well duh! thats because I jsut uninstalled you.

Anyone else with similar problems? Any answers?


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View Postmattyfiend, on Nov 6 2008, 14:22, said:

I know this might have been asked before but I can't search through 24 pages of postings.

Has anyone else had trouble uninstalling Navizon. On my SVP M700 with Windows Mobile 5, I try and remove the program and all looks fine but then every time I restart the phone, I get an error saying it can't find the Navizon.exe file. Well duh! thats because I jsut uninstalled you.

Anyone else with similar problems? Any answers?

Check your startup folder, and remove Navizon from there aswell. It sometimes gets left behind.


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View Postmattyfiend, on Nov 6 2008, 15:22, said:

I know this might have been asked before but I can't search through 24 pages of postings.

Has anyone else had trouble uninstalling Navizon. On my SVP M700 with Windows Mobile 5, I try and remove the program and all looks fine but then every time I restart the phone, I get an error saying it can't find the Navizon.exe file. Well duh! thats because I jsut uninstalled you.

Anyone else with similar problems? Any answers?


I have just tried to install the latest trial version on my TyTNII which is running WM6.1.

When I try to run it I get an error "missingmethodexception" has anybody seen or even resolved this ?


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View Postitsnotmeeee, on Nov 6 2008, 18:46, said:

Check your startup folder, and remove Navizon from there aswell. It sometimes gets left behind.

That got the little blighter. It's so obvious now I come to think about it. I would have checked there right away if it was my desktop machine but it just didn't occur to me on the phone.

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I just signed up for this yesterday and have given it a go tonight on the way to a mates. Only a few miles but some cells (mostly listed as new) and stacks of WiFi points (again most new).

The point structure and payout is different now to in the very first post though. Now it's :-

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WiFi AP discovered by you: 3 Points
Cell Tower discovered by you:  15 Points
Wifi already mapped:  1 Point
Cell tower already mapped:  2 Points

and the payout is $10 per 10,000 points.

And also, I'm not entirely convinced there is a cell tower in my front garden B)  although I am going to check out that suspicious looking bush tomorrow B) I think the location is a bit off on that one as no one else in my village seems to be using Navizon.

Edited by Prof. Yaffle, 01 December 2008 - 01:14 AM.


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Hi paul i signed up today using your referral looks a great little app! can't wait to use it :(


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So, I am trying to figure out if this Navizon program is actually working on my Verizon Omnia i910.  

It installs fine after a soft reset.  On the dashboard, there are 3 'lights':  Phone, WiFi and GPS.

I never get a green light on 'Phone'. GPS is locked, so that is never on. WiFi goes from amber to green when the program activates the WiFi. It only stays on for about 1 second, and I don't think it's on long enough to actually find an AP...

Also - every time I try to sync with Navizon, I get "NullReferenceException"

Any help on this one?

Thanks.

Edit:  Just  found out Navizon doesn't support CDMA.  Wish I had of read that before I spend the $10...  live and learn.

Other listed issues still valid.

Edited by Takarin, 01 May 2009 - 01:07 AM.


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View PostTakarin, on Apr 30 2009, 16:58, said:

Edit:  Just  found out Navizon doesn't support CDMA.  Wish I had of read that before I spend the $10...  live and learn.
That's surprising.  They'd be excluding all Sprint and Verizon users in the US along w/location assistance via CDMA towers.  Hmmm...

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View Postcwerdna, on May 3 2009, 04:03, said:

That's surprising.  They'd be excluding all Sprint and Verizon users in the US along w/location assistance via CDMA towers.  Hmmm...

They have issues getting cell ID from CDMA handsets.


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View Postitsnotmeeee, on May 4 2009, 16:57, said:

They have issues getting cell ID from CDMA handsets.

Just signed up yesterday using you as a refferer.  I guess this could by why I havent picked up an cell towers yet, but loads of wifi access points.  We'll give it a go because it seems like just driving to work every day with this on could pick up a tank of gas once or twice a year.


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I installed the program and entered your code...


View PostPaul (MVP), on Jan 3 2008, 10:19, said:

While Google Maps is doing a great job of bringing cell based positioning to the masses, it's not the only or even the first to do so, and just lately i've been checking out one of the other players in the market... Navizon.

I'm going to talk about a few different aspects of Navizon.

First, there is the consumer application. Available for a number of platforms including Windows Mobile, the Navizon application basically allows you to pinpoint your position without a GPS device using either cell towers, or wifi access points - a unique approach. 2 versions of the application are available - a lite version (which does cell positioning), and the $24.95 commercial version which includes both cell positioning and the wifi positioning.

So what can you do with the app? You can perform 'find my nearest' type queries, plot your current position on a map, upload your current position, you can locate your Navizon buddies, you can place a 'Geotag' that can be read later by other Navizon users at a location and you can upload data to Navizon. The data i'm referring to here is the cell and WiFi access point data that your device sees as you travel around. Lastly, if you are using the non-lite version of the app, you can even expose Navizon's position as a 'Virtual GPS' for use in other programs. You could effectively provide positioning data to other programs such as Live Search via Navizon!

Does it work? Yes, it really does! Assuming you are within Navizon's coverage area (we'll get to this in a moment), it works really well. Before using Navizon I hadn't really considered today's near ubiquitous WiFi as an enabler to approximate positioning, but the more you think about it, the more it makes sense. The application seems well written and feature packed, and i've been using it for the past week with no real complaints.

So, what's the coverage like? Here we come to the next aspect of Navizon I want to talk about. Navizon's coverage is user contributed. That means that an area will be covered if it has been previously mapped by a Navizon user. This is what I was referring to when I talked about 'data upload' above. Now this is where it gets really cool too. Navizon don't expect you to be nice people and just upload your data for free (although we are of course, right?), they're willling to pay you for it. They're going to give you 10 points for each cell you log, and 2 points for each WiFi AP you log (you only get credited the first time you personally log each individual cell / AP). Every 10,000 points, you can redeem a reward and claim $20 via PayPal.

10,000 points? Whoah, that's a lot, i'll never earn that! You might think that, and to be honest, I was probably of that school of thought.... until I tried it! In the name of research, on Boxing Day, I installed Navizon on my Kaiser. I figured that since I would be driving around between Christmas and New Year, visiting family and always running CamerAware, I might as well have Navizon on too. So, I ran it, it coexisted perfectly with CamerAware, and between then and my return home yesterday (i.e a period of about 1 week of moderate driving), i've clocked up 18,000 points! That's nearly 2 rewards, and nearly $40! :D

Below is a pic of my current Navizon rewards status, and I have also included a screen capture from Navizon from 1 of my journeys. Believe it or not this is 1 journey of only 15 miles through Central London to the Emirates Stadium home of Arsenal on New Years Day. You probably would not clock up these points on any other 15 mile journey, but it goes to show what is up for grabs!

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Neato! Anything else? There's a couple of other cool things. The first is that when you refer other people to Navizon, you get awarded 20% of the value of their points. So, for every 10,000 they earn, you get 2,000 too, at no cost to them. Even better for people like me though, is the Navizon Developer API. It allows you to implement Navizon cell positioning in your application for FREE, and potentially even allows developers of GPS based applications such as CamerAware to allow users to earn points directly from within their application. Imagine getting paid just to drive around and be told where the speed cameras are. Brilliant!

OK, sounds great - where do I sign up? Simply head over to the Navizon page (this is my referral link btw), download the application, and get started! If you have any thoughts or questions, feel free to post here, i've been hammering the application pretty intensively the past week :)

Enjoy!

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[Edit: For anyone who has logged points and referred me, PM me your MoDaCo Username for a small token of my appreciation (a free AdFree sub) ;) ]

[Edit 2: If you get prompted for a referral code, enter '5E5B59565E'. Thanks! :o ]


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Potentially even allows developers of GPS based applications such as CamerAware to allow users to earn points.




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