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[dedafmonteur]

everyone has his own taste,please respect it

[Pille69]

Omnia_1, on Oct 21 2008, 11:40, said:

In 6 months or 6 years when I have my 100GB HTC with 20 mega pixel camera, mind reading UI, coffee making bread toasting PDA, Apple will just release something with a built in camera  I don't know why it is I just dislike Apple and their overpriced products.

wauu - that phone replace the girl. then you can save money and nervs as well ;-)

to be honest - the once thing what impressed me on the iphone is the display. nothing more.

i agree with you that the iphone is more unfriendly but this is a strategy from the old/gammel apple. the less the user can do the less support calls, problems will face the user. Apple deside what you can do on your phone.

that thread is a complete personal opinen and vorliebe.
people are different. some prefer iphone some omnia

i use a windows mobile since 1 year now
first at all its a bit of work to get all running like you want (show me that on symbian, apple or android)
many programmers, themer, grafikfreaks out there which supply us with the sickest tool/programmsa. and i love it.

the omnia is a killer and it will take at least a half year till anybody publish a better phone (soesnt matter from whom)

Regards
Pille with Omnia

[starflare04]

well my history is different those are my personal thoughs.
BTW im not an apple hater, i love apple products especially i love my macbook pro.

my history is from Iphone -----> Omnia.

i loved the iphone and at the same time i hate it...

why i loved:
1.- The UI is great, the keyborad is fast & responsive....
2.- the screen is marvelous, 16M colors and scratch resistant. increible for videos.
3.- Safari is the best for Web browser.
4.- It has cool games even that the library is short.

Why i hate it...
1.- The speaker is a joke... is no loud at all, after buying the omnia this was a nice surprise for me, is the best loud speaker i have ever had in a phone, and the iphone the worst.
2.- You can not remove the battery.... (is the only phone i had with this nice feature.... sarcasm...)
3.- Bluetooth without A2DP.... Useless, great for call but not for music.
4.- I love music and more with my Shure SE530 headphones, using the iphone is nice and simple.... but the sound quality is a joke... is the same with the ipod... the touch player on the omnia is a joke as well, but i can add additional audio players to the omnia that delivers best sound, i cant do this with the iphone.
5.- Since there are not dedicated GPS software on the iphone, you have to live with google maps that is not bad, but you need 3g connection all the time.. on Omnia i have Garmin mobile running not paying 3g connection and working great!
6.- The iphone camera is bad, the omnia is not the best, but after some tweaks it delivers better shots than iphones camera and you have flash.
7.- Bad Reception and call quality... with the omnia is different history.

And the additional features the omnia had over the iphone like the additional Micro storage, the hands free with the jack to use another headphones, better batery and there two additional things that i dont use but is good to mention MMS and front camera.

Made for me that the Omnia is best value over the iphone, so i sold my iphone, got a Iphone 3g, sold iphone 3g,  got a LG dare, sold a LG dare, got an Omnia.. end.

Dont get me wrong the iphone has the best OS but without a good hardware....
The Omnia has the best hardware on a phone at the moment for me, so i just need to tweak the software to have a best balanced all-1 device.

And you are in Modaco forums to start tweaking... so...

[sector]

starflare04, on Oct 22 2008, 03:03, said:

well my history is different those are my personal thoughs.
BTW im not an apple hater, i love apple products especially i love my macbook pro.

my history is from Iphone -----> Omnia.

i loved the iphone and at the same time i hate it...

why i loved:
1.- The UI is great, the keyborad is fast & responsive....
2.- the screen is marvelous, 16M colors and scratch resistant. increible for videos.
3.- Safari is the best for Web browser.
4.- It has cool games even that the library is short.

Why i hate it...
1.- The speaker is a joke... is no loud at all, after buying the omnia this was a nice surprise for me, is the best loud speaker i have ever had in a phone, and the iphone the worst.
2.- You can not remove the battery.... (is the only phone i had with this nice feature.... sarcasm...)
3.- Bluetooth without A2DP.... Useless, great for call but not for music.
4.- I love music and more with my Shure SE530 headphones, using the iphone is nice and simple.... but the sound quality is a joke... is the same with the ipod... the touch player on the omnia is a joke as well, but i can add additional audio players to the omnia that delivers best sound, i cant do this with the iphone.
5.- Since there are not dedicated GPS software on the iphone, you have to live with google maps that is not bad, but you need 3g connection all the time.. on Omnia i have Garmin mobile running not paying 3g connection and working great!
6.- The iphone camera is bad, the omnia is not the best, but after some tweaks it delivers better shots than iphones camera and you have flash.
7.- Bad Reception and call quality... with the omnia is different history.

And the additional features the omnia had over the iphone like the additional Micro storage, the hands free with the jack to use another headphones, better batery and there two additional things that i dont use but is good to mention MMS and front camera.

Made for me that the Omnia is best value over the iphone, so i sold my iphone, got a Iphone 3g, sold iphone 3g,  got a LG dare, sold a LG dare, got an Omnia.. end.

Dont get me wrong the iphone has the best OS but without a good hardware....
The Omnia has the best hardware on a phone at the moment for me, so i just need to tweak the software to have a best balanced all-1 device.

And you are in Modaco forums to start tweaking... so...

couldnt say it better +++

[Omnia_1]

danarc, on Oct 21 2008, 19:44, said:

Am just bored with phone, windows could be improved but microsoft aint bothered to and there aint many good games for windows. Omnia might have much more features but u cant deny the fact that the iphone has little exciting features but puts it above the omnia.

you are free to comment. just be nice lol.....

Why couldn't you have gone off to your iphone thread without saying anything? What is the actual purpose or where is the contribution to the thread that tittles, Modaco>Device Specific>Samsung>i900_Omnia? \
The FACT is no one give a big brown smelly turd about what device you want to use or what UI you prefer!
It seems obvious you either have a problem with this forum or you just don't understand Windows Mobile. Again this is not about device as to more UI or OS and I would like to stress again Windows Mobile has been around nearly 7yrs and hasn't changed its UI all that much, therefore you must have known about the WinMo UI before purchasing i900, yes? I thought you were a tech wizard or something?
None of us WM uses go over to Apple forums and start flame-wars and its because we are content with our device and OS. Someone here mentioned the i900 has been marketed the wrong way and that may be true, however, if you just ran out and bought the first thing you saw and now you don't understand how to use it or don't like it, tough luck! your bad luck buddy, we don't need to hear about it though, this thread is neither constructive nor does it have anything to do with the genre of this website. Go to your iphone thread, good riddance!

[samjuan]

WearTheFoxHat, on Oct 21 2008, 17:57, said:

* unlocked ... yes application unlocked, but not SIM unlocked.  If there are, then where?
* Correct no multitasking and no background processes.  Okay maybe mail works in the background, but there are plenty of other apps which don't.
* Correct @ bluetooth.
* -
* Tethering ... connecting phone to laptop to share the HSDPA or 3G connectivity of the handset.  Quite common in Windows Mobile.

Yes, and copy n paste, but I understand there are appstore apps to get around that.

Oh and also I believe that you can't have proper navigation software on the iphone either, unlike tomtom on the Omnia.

* I have the official unlocked "works with any sim, you can update through itunes and everything, exactly like the unlocked Omnia" the only thing is that you cannot install application out of the itunes store, which is a limitation, however it has hundreds of free applications "even car dynos, proper shazam music ID, games..." and literally thousands of paid applications. check this out: http://store.apple.c...one?mco=MTE2NTQ
* and there are applications that work in the background, it is amazing how people in the WM world are crying to make the close "x" really close the application not only minimize it and strive to develop and install applications that can do that, while in the apple world people want the opposite!
* -
* -
* oh yeah... that, what a shame, however there are many solutions on the net, without jailbreaking or cracking the phone though...
* nice to hear about the copy and paste, I should check it out.

[samjuan]

Massive Attack, on Oct 21 2008, 18:11, said:

i dont get why iPhone owners always says "it just works" as if omnia "just doesnt work", tweaking and customizing omnia doesnt mean it doesnt work on the 1st place, its just that omnia allows itself to be customized, unlike iPhone which yes, "just works" also "works only the way apple tells you to"

and besides, "just works" does copy and paste "just works" on iPhone? no
sms forwarding "just works"? nope, its "would work if you installed 3rd party apps"
tethering "just works"? no.

Well to none tech savvy people "which I can say more than 90%" they want something that just work, I am not one of them of course.
sms forwarding? are you serious? it is working since an early release!!! have even tried to work on an iPhone lately?
tethering... I just mentioned there are ways "for tech savvy people" to do it out of the box!

why do you to customize something that all other mobile owners want to mimic? look at this Omnia thread alone and you'll understand!!!

Oh and yeah, you will miss MMS and email attachements as well in the iPhone!!! but then again, "sigh" ....

its funny, isn't it?  

[samjuan]

Emre SUMENGEN, on Oct 21 2008, 19:16, said:

It's really getting into a flamewar, I believe...

And, let me tell you the best between the iPhone and the Omnia: Having them both Yep, I do have them both and I believe it's the best.

The two are from different worlds. Omnia has the advantage of hardware and greater source for 3rd party apps. The iphone (3g, in my case) has the "just works", "os stability" and "ui" advantages. Also, the iphone screen is unbeatable, not only by omnia, but any phone (i haven't seen g1 yet). Multitouch is perfect, being capacitive makes an enourmous difference in sensitivity. The graphics are fast, accelerometer is accurate (more than omnia's, by experience), the screen readability is much further than of any standard pressure-based display WM devices have. The looks are absolutely amazing with the iphone.

But, as you see, there are much I hate about the iphone, too. Not being able to search through my hundreds of emails is just unbearable (but it does sync in background while using push-mail). Safari is very good, much much better renders pages than even Opera (which is the best web browser in WM IMHO), but it just doesn't show Flash content, even with 2.1 version. And the lack of these (and much more small glitches) features make me need a "REAL" pda.

I can't leave the iphone either...

So, I guess it's the best to have them both. So that, WM can handle my emails with FlexMail, I can use gps offline with it (without the need to do some nerd-stuff tweaking and hacking) and have my photos with it. All the while, I can enjoy the nice web browsing on the iphone, the fabulous facebook app and the nice games...

I could not agree more, just a simple question though, can we search though emails in the Omnia?

[bobobird]

This is too good not to pass on ---

I was at a reception the other day, Omnia in pocket and just chatting. A guy a few steps away took out his iphone and started playing around all the while stealing glances to see if he was getting any attention. I can't stand show-offs, so took out the Omnia and asked the people I was chatting with to stand together so I could take a picture. He looked over, saw the phone and quielty slipped his back into its holder.

Happened again today in a restaurant, Omnia was on the table and a friend picked it up. The guy at the next table had been playing with his iphone for quite a while. Looked over saw the Omnia and like the other guy quietly slipped his back in his jacket.

Give it a try - could be fun.

[Pille69]

samjuan, on Oct 22 2008, 05:14, said:

I could not agree more, just a simple question though, can we search though emails in the Omnia?

no - but i have my outlook where is the omnia connected and i can search there.

plz stop that thread.
omnia have positive and negative thinks and apple as well. it is just up to you what you prefer.
your own taste.
that is a wm6x omnia forum and not a apple forum

plz close that thread
its pointless

and just for info
Multitasking: A single CPU Device cant be multitasking. Multitasking descript the method of "one process at the same time". Simple explained: Process 1 must be finish then the share common processing resources work on process 2
Even Omnia is not multitaking able

UI - should be called GUI (Graphical user interface) allwoed the humen to interact with electronic devices. that is the coloured icons what you see on the display

[Hendrickson]

geez ppl. both have there good and bad points. leave it at that. Not start a flaming fanboy vs fanboy thread.

This thread should be locked.....

[samjuan]

I didn't see anything getting personal or flaming! we are just discussing opinions here! not convincing or fighting! I do not know why people all over the internet get stressed out when they talk about such subjects! "comparing the main forum phone with the iPhone!!!" it is funny, seriously try looking and you will find people asking to lock the subject, and some actually do!!!  

Lock it or not, this is a forum, and forum means discussions... lets have fun with our phones and discuss whatever we like!     

if you don't like it, then do not read forum topics that has iPhone!  

[natalie1981_cutie]

Ooohhh, a flaming thread. Love a good war. LOL. Honestly, I'm an Omnia fangirl and I've been to other forums that bash the Omnia and though I would LOVE to put in my two cents, I just don't have the energy to get into a fanboy war. The reason why there are so many mobile phones in the market is mainly because most of us have different interests in a phone. I have a Love/hate relationship with the iPhone. We have an iPhone at home courtesy of my sister and though I REALLY love the iPhone's interface, it ends at that, my personal view is that the Omnia has a lot more to offer but I guess not all people like it just as not all people like the iPhone.

[WearTheFoxHat]

Pille69, on Oct 22 2008, 07:51, said:

and just for info
Multitasking: A single CPU Device cant be multitasking. Multitasking descript the method of "one process at the same time". Simple explained: Process 1 must be finish then the share common processing resources work on process 2
Even Omnia is not multitaking able

Incorrect.  Look at Windows XP on a standard Pentium processor.  That was fully capable of multitasking .. what it means is several tasks all running at the same time.  What happens is an application puts in a call for some processor time, and the processor issues time slices and percentage processor allowance.

Back to the overall thread:

It's good that different people value different aspects of different phones otherwise we would all be carrying the same handset and then the world would get very boring!  What is clear is that none of the handsets offer the ideal solution to everyone, which is why with each new handset they are getting better and better.

The omnia is the first Windows Mobile phone which I would say has gone mainstream, in terms of non-techie people buying and using it.  Amusingly it is probably because Apple limited which carriers could have the iPhone!  Would the omnia be as popular if it weren't the iphone replacement for people such as Orange in the UK ???  Somehow I don't think so, despite being a great handset.  

So thank you apple for bringing Windows Mobile to the masses!

Im sure over the next couple of generations of handsets there will be a lot of exciting advances including OS choices too; Windows Mobile 7, iPhone 3, and Android.  More competition forces the handset developers and os developers to really make something special that attracts itself to potential purchasers.

If you don't mind I'll leave it there, and close this thread!