Android BeebPlayer

[Guest Remington Steale]

Just noticed this whilst browsing around: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/24/ip...f_verification/

I seem to recall BeebPlayer is streaming rather than flash??

Edited February 24, 2010 by Remington Steale

[Guest jonathanmusto]

Just noticed this whilst browsing around: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/24/ip...f_verification/

I seem to recall BeebPlayer is streaming rather than flash??

Don't you just hate these companies sometimes!! I also used iPlayer on XBMC so i'm seriously miffed by this!, as specially as i run XBMC on Linux and Abode won't support the VA-API for Flash 10.1. The sooner Sling release an Android player the better, then i can sling my v+ output.

[Guest pulser]

I

Just noticed this whilst browsing around: http://wwwtheregister.co.uk/2010/02/24/ip...f_verification/

I seem to recall BeebPlayer is streaming rather than flash??

Not certain, but I would ask everybody to go to the official BBC complaints site and raise this. I have, but more complaints are always better.

The bbc is meant to be independent in terms of technical protocols, as it is essentially owned by us all (license payers).

I don't want to see the BBC's favouring of one platform over another continue, as they should use platform and vendor neutral codecs and transmission protocols. Preferably open source at that...

Will try beebplayer right now.

[Guest pulser]

The ****s!

No programs showing as available! This is a call to arms (lol. By arms I mean eclipse, the best weapon of any java programmer) for any developers out there who fancy trying to get the flash content by pretending to be an authorised player!

App would get blocked by the market knowing Adobe/BBC, so I guess it would need to be a mediafire etc. hosted apk file... any takers?

[Guest Higgsy]

bugger, I used beeb player quite a bit. not working now.

[Guest Remington Steale]

What do you expect, Erik Huggers, the BBC’s director of future media and technology came from Microsoft originally

[Guest The_IMF]

Don't you just hate these companies sometimes!! I also used iPlayer on XBMC so i'm seriously miffed by this!, as specially as i run XBMC on Linux and Abode won't support the VA-API for Flash 10.1. The sooner Sling release an Android player the better, then i can sling my v+ output.

Any idea when Sling will be out on Android???

[Guest pulser]

I thought the BBC was heading the wrong way when I heard they were going to release iPhone apps. Why not Android? Since android is open source, and therefore has lower costs to develop, compared to the beeb buying a mac or two to develop on, or paying a programmer to write an iPhone app.

I'm hoping that the maker of get_iplayer (google it) has something up his sleeve, as you just get green video when you try it (with audio working fine), yet it worked fine a few days ago...

[Guest Higgsy]

What do you expect, Erik Huggers, the BBC’s director of future media and technology came from Microsoft originally

That says it all really.

[Guest Remington Steale]

Well, I've registered my complaint, you have to do it at the iPlayer help site after answering a bunch of insulting and largely un-related questions that basically sum up to "are you sure you know how to use iPlayer correctly on your iPhone?"

Pillocks

[Guest Higgsy]

Well, I've registered my complaint, you have to do it at the iPlayer help site after answering a bunch of insulting and largely un-related questions that basically sum up to "are you sure you know how to use iPlayer correctly on your iPhone?"

Pillocks

wow they do ask some dumb generic questions. Complaint filed.

[Guest pulser]

wow they do ask some dumb generic questions. Complaint filed.

Thanks, guys. The more people who log their complaints, the better,

Just a little correction. Earlier I lambasted the fact that get_iplayer was broken. I must hold my hands up and admit that it is working fine. I was trying to play them in VLC, and forgot to turn off a GPU acceleration feature I was trying a few days ago.

So, get_iplayer works fine, and is just a perl script. Now all the dev. of BeebPlayer needs to do is integrate FLVStreamer & get_iplayer into his app and it will work fine. Also, there is a tool for dumping RTMP content (no prizes for guessing its name if I tell you that its name is two words put together, and one is 'dump' and the other is 'rtmp'. Put them together (not necessarily in that order) and there you have it, a PC tool that supports flash verification.

If discussion of this is not permitted, please delete references to the tool.

[Guest pulser]

https://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/temp...Forms/emailPage is the complaints page for anyone interested.

(Sorry for the double post. Edit not working for me :()

[Guest Nitro Fan]

https://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/temp...Forms/emailPage is the complaints page for anyone interested.

(Sorry for the double post. Edit not working for me :()

I found this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbiplayer/F7331806?thread=7308803

For the BBC iPlayer apps we're looking at using Adobe Flash Player 10.1 streaming, and are trialling on the Google Nexus One and Motorola Milestone. Flash 10.1 streaming offers a high quality viewing experience and means we can start using the BBC's flash based embedded media player (EMP) on mobile phones.

Will this solve the the Android / iPlayer issue?

[Guest pulser]

I found this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbiplayer/F7331806?thread=7308803

For the BBC iPlayer apps we're looking at using Adobe Flash Player 10.1 streaming, and are trialling on the Google Nexus One and Motorola Milestone. Flash 10.1 streaming offers a high quality viewing experience and means we can start using the BBC's flash based embedded media player (EMP) on mobile phones.

Will this solve the the Android / iPlayer issue?

That's certainly positive. I suppose they would need to wait till 2.1 to be able to use the new Flash version, but us Hero users should be ready for that within a couple of months :(

For anyone interested, that thread points to this blog article > http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/201...obile_apps.html < by a BBC employee.

I'd certainly like an official app, but I think they would be better to release their restrictions, as not all of us will want to run Adobe's own proprietary software on their phone (I for one would rather they use an open-source equivalent, then we can all check what we're loading on, and compile from sources when we inevitable find a better way to optimise it on android than the Beeb did).

Oh well, so long as they're remembering us Android users...

Thanks for the link :(

[Guest Nitro Fan]

That's certainly positive. I suppose they would need to wait till 2.1 to be able to use the new Flash version, but us Hero users should be ready for that within a couple of months :(

For anyone interested, that thread points to this blog article > http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/201...obile_apps.html < by a BBC employee.

I'd certainly like an official app, but I think they would be better to release their restrictions, as not all of us will want to run Adobe's own proprietary software on their phone (I for one would rather they use an open-source equivalent, then we can all check what we're loading on, and compile from sources when we inevitable find a better way to optimise it on android than the Beeb did).

Oh well, so long as they're remembering us Android users...

Thanks for the link :(

Your welcome.

I am not due to upgrade until June, but I have been keeping a close eye on the SE X10 the N1 and the Hero or G2

But it seems there will be NO audible player in the short term or Google navigation, and as Nokia give me Maps with driving directions for free now and I have a redundant copy of TomTom navigator 7 and a now redundant lifetime licenses of Wayfinder 6 & 7!!!!!!! I have 100% no intention of paying for anymore Sat Nav applications!

So I am hitting a number of deal breakers with Android at present the BBC iPlayer problem would have been the final straw!

[Guest deejay000]

Guys calm down. Beeb player isn't even broken. It still works fine

[Guest]

Guys calm down. Beeb player isn't even broken. It still works fine

I just tried it and it started playing a video fine.

I'm surprised people are up in arms about this at all, it always works for about 5 minutes and then loses the stream whenever I've tried to use it to watch something.

[Guest nscxp2005]

Just tried BeebPlayer, It works fine

[Guest wooger]

Just tried BeebPlayer, It works fine

Yep, I don't see that this will really affect anyone. The iPhone app still works, and obviously that phone can't support flash at all.

The BBC took the decision years back to put a huge backdoor in their security systems for the iPhone with h264 video, and we can all still exploit it.

I expect Adobe's flash security will be cracked pretty soon if it's actually affecting a significant number of people. They've shown they can't write secure software in the first place, so it's unlikely they're able to write an infallible encryption system.

[Guest Remington Steale]

Just tried BeebPlayer, It works fine

Cool, I've been out of wireless and 3g signal all day and wasnt sure if the errors were due to bad signal or this verification layer.

I only found the item on The Register by chance.

[Guest zippyioa]

Hi Chaps/Chapesses,

I agree with an earlier poster that Beebplayer nearly always crashes out after 5-10 minutes (on 3G or WiFi) so I dont really use it.

This is quite interesting though..... http://spb.com/android-software/tv/

I dont think it will offer the backcatologue like Beebplayer, but live TV on the go is still pretty interesting - no more late night arguments about switching the TV off because my wife needs to get some sleep! :(

I always loved SPB apps on my WinMo device so am going to give this a try. Will report my findings soon...... :(

Zippyioa

Edited February 25, 2010 by zippyioa

[Guest]

I had that spb app but the channels were awful, certainly I could never find anything interesting. I do like the TED app though, dome really interesting stuff can be found there but it us just one person giving a lecture so probably not for everyone.

[Guest commodoor]

I had that spb app but the channels were awful, certainly I could never find anything interesting. I do like the TED app though, dome really interesting stuff can be found there but it us just one person giving a lecture so probably not for everyone.

How many channels are there? do you have selection per country? and why was it awfull, because bad quality?

just some questions.

[Guest]

Well, it seemed to work ok but there was nothing worth watching on there. The channels were generally ones I'd never heard of and didn't have any content I was particularly interested in watching. Basically, if you don't care what you watch then it's a great app but if you're at all discerning then I imagine you'd be disappointed.

There's plenty of comments on the market, have a read of them, there's not many positives but some people seem happy with it so I guess there's a chance you might be.