Guest jhils1 Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 What do you do if you cant stand useless touchscreens but still want a top spec smartphone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest squirreleater Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 Get a Moto Droid/milestone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jhils1 Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 That wouldnt help-I want a phone keypad interface-like the old WM standard/Smartphone edition. Then I can do everything with my thumb in one hand instead of messing about wafting my finger over the screen, which is all very clever (when it actually works), but ultimately takes longer than a thumb, T9 and a phone keypad. Touchscreens are fashionable but inferior. Currently if I want a phone keypad, I d have to get a reallly low spec phone, a few years back I d have been able to get a high spec phone keypad smartphone. In fact, a couple of years back a "smartphone" was specifically a device with an operating system and a phone keypad, whereas touchscreen devices with an os were refered to as "pdas". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abc27 Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 That wouldnt help-I want a phone keypad interface-like the old WM standard/Smartphone edition. Then I can do everything with my thumb in one hand instead of messing about wafting my finger over the screen, which is all very clever (when it actually works), but ultimately takes longer than a thumb, T9 and a phone keypad. Touchscreens are fashionable but inferior. Currently if I want a phone keypad, I d have to get a reallly low spec phone, a few years back I d have been able to get a high spec phone keypad smartphone. In fact, a couple of years back a "smartphone" was specifically a device with an operating system and a phone keypad, whereas touchscreen devices with an os were refered to as "pdas". Times have changed :P The best specced alphanumeric phone available these days is believe it or not the Symbian powered Nokia N95 8Gb. As for qwerty keyboards most of them either are lower specced or are supposed to be used with a touchscreen (Like the Motorola Milestone). There are no alphanumeric keypad Android phones, none whatsoever. You're just going to have to settle for an N95 8GB or join the touchscreen crowd, i'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest todbld Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 What do you do if you cant stand useless touchscreens but still want a top spec smartphone? Its Called BLACK BERRY :-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest goodbrand Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Its Called BLACK BERRY :-P I was thinking the exact same thing as i read this!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jhils1 Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 (edited) Times have changed :P The best specced alphanumeric phone available these days is believe it or not the Symbian powered Nokia N95 8Gb. As for qwerty keyboards most of them either are lower specced or are supposed to be used with a touchscreen (Like the Motorola Milestone). There are no alphanumeric keypad Android phones, none whatsoever. You're just going to have to settle for an N95 8GB or join the touchscreen crowd, i'm afraid. Yeah, but things have gone backwards-touchscreens are slow-it takes longer to wave fingers at the screen than it does to move your thumb a few millimetres. Its about fashion. Symbian is rubbish, hate Nokias. Its Called BLACK BERRY :-P Dont like Blackberry either, specs too low, think its qwerty only anyway. Just got an X10 and (despite being a Linux pc user) I cant get on with Android either-you cant sync it with your pc (only read the sd card) unless you go online and register with Google, you cant use the calender without registering with Google, you cant read phonebook from the SIM (have to copy SIM to phone), you cant lock the phone with a PIN, you have to register with Google to even browse the app store, you cant turn the flash on and it doesnt work even in pitch darkness, you cant breath without registering with Google, you cant change the keypad configuration (qwerty only)...I could go on. Its just a Google data collection exercise, cant tell you how disappointed I am with Android. Think I ll just hang on to my Omnia with WM 6.1 and wait a couple of years. Some high end mobile devices have shipped with a full desktop install of Windows on them over the last few years, have to hope that phones will develop enough so I can install Liniux/Ubuntu on one. Edited May 7, 2010 by jhils1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest squirreleater Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Yeah, but things have gone backwards-touchscreens are slow-it takes longer to wave fingers at the screen than it does to move your thumb a few millimetres. Its about fashion. Symbian is rubbish, hate Nokias. Dont like Blackberry either, specs too low, think its qwerty only anyway. Just got an X10 and (despite being a Linux pc user) I cant get on with Android either-you cant sync it with your pc (only read the sd card) unless you go online and register with Google, you cant use the calender without registering with Google, you cant read phonebook from the SIM (have to copy SIM to phone), you cant lock the phone with a PIN, you have to register with Google to even browse the app store, you cant turn the flash on and it doesnt work even in pitch darkness, you cant breath without registering with Google, you cant change the keypad configuration (qwerty only)...I could go on. Its just a Google data collection exercise, cant tell you how disappointed I am with Android. Think I ll just hang on to my Omnia with WM 6.1 and wait a couple of years. Some high end mobile devices have shipped with a full desktop install of Windows on them over the last few years, have to hope that phones will develop enough so I can install Liniux/Ubuntu on one. What is the big issue with creating a googlemail account? WM6.1 compared to Android isn't even worth discussing they are so far apart. I can type quicker with swype than I ever could on an old style phone, and I used to be a serious texter in olden days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jhils1 Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 (edited) What is the big issue with creating a googlemail account? WM6.1 compared to Android isn't even worth discussing they are so far apart. I can type quicker with swype than I ever could on an old style phone, and I used to be a serious texter in olden days! Cant see why I have to go online just to set myself a reminder or check what appointments I ve got comming up-its like big brother. I dont need or want a Googlemail account-I have an email address already. What next-do I have to login to make a phone call?! As a Linux user/fan I heard and read about how good Android is, but it isnt-and WM 6.1 is far far from perfect, but nothing about Android I ve seen so far is anywhere near as good as WM, other than the user interface looks a bit more modern. I ve had Android for 3 days now and I cant see any advantage over WM 6.1. I just feel like throwing the phone at the wall most of the time, even more than I do with Windows Mobile. Whats Swype? can you type one handed with your thumb? Edited May 8, 2010 by jhils1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HustlinDaily Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 Swype is a tool (currently in beta testing but there are leaks all over the net) where you just use your finger to slide across a keyboard. You don't lift your finger until your word is complete. I like it, it is the way texting on a touchscreen should be. I guess for somebody like me who has been using gmail for many years (along with the calender, gtalk), Android is the greatest thing ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jhils1 Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 (edited) Swype is a tool (currently in beta testing but there are leaks all over the net) where you just use your finger to slide across a keyboard. You don't lift your finger until your word is complete. I like it, it is the way texting on a touchscreen should be. I guess for somebody like me who has been using gmail for many years (along with the calender, gtalk), Android is the greatest thing ever. I m sure Gmail is a great service, but I just dont understand why I have to login to it to access basic functions on my phone. Swype does sound a good idea-Both my current Samsung Omnia and the X10 are rubbish for texting as the touchscreens are nt responsive enough and ignore half of my "touches". Plus the X10 only has a qwerty keyopard (Omnia has 5 choices of keybaord) with tiny keys. Edited May 8, 2010 by jhils1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abc27 Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 I m sure Gmail is a great service, but I just dont understand why I have to login to it to access basic functions on my phone. Swype does sound a good idea-Both my current Samsung Omnia and the X10 are rubbish for texting as the touchscreens are nt responsive enough and ignore half of my "touches". Plus the X10 only has a qwerty keyopard (Omnia has 5 choices of keybaord) with tiny keys. You need a google account to access services on Google's OS. The same way you need an Apple account with iTunes to use an iPhone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HustlinDaily Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 I m sure Gmail is a great service, but I just dont understand why I have to login to it to access basic functions on my phone. Swype does sound a good idea-Both my current Samsung Omnia and the X10 are rubbish for texting as the touchscreens are nt responsive enough and ignore half of my "touches". Plus the X10 only has a qwerty keyopard (Omnia has 5 choices of keybaord) with tiny keys. Have you tried adjusting the sensitivity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jhils1 Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 (edited) You need a google account to access services on Google's OS. The same way you need an Apple account with iTunes to use an iPhone. Right, I thought Android was progress, but its only progress for Google's marketing machine-registering just to set a reminder in my diary or just to sync to my pc is ridiculous-and what happens if theres no signal and I cant go online from the handset? It would mean I cant use basic functions on my phone, that I d easily be able to use with WM or even a basic non smart phone. It would seem, like Apple with the iphone, Google Android is all about marketing and fashion. Have you tried adjusting the sensitivity? Yeah, but it like any other touchscreen-ie it doesnt wok properly. Edited May 8, 2010 by jhils1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest squirreleater Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 Right, I thought Android was progress, but its only progress for Google's marketing machine-registering just to set a reminder in my diary or just to sync to my pc is ridiculous-and what happens if theres no signal and I cant go online from the handset? It would mean I cant use basic functions on my phone, that I d easily be able to use with WM or even a basic non smart phone. It would seem, like Apple with the iphone, Google Android is all about marketing and fashion. Yeah, but it like any other touchscreen-ie it doesnt wok properly. I'm not sure what you mean " go online"? My Nexus does everything my old Touch HD did remotely, the only time I've ever 'logged in' to my google account was when I set the phone up, that is it. The google account is simply a way of putting all your information in one remote place, you just register an android phone with your googlemail account and that's it, everthing syncs to the phone and you're off- you never have to 'go online' . I went from a Touch HD using various flashed Roms ( 6.1/6.5) and moving to Android was like coming out of the dark ages, Winmo is just so archaic Not being funny, but why come on an Android Forum and than say it's rubbish and you're going back to Winmo? It would appear your mind is made up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nomadsoul Posted June 12, 2010 Report Share Posted June 12, 2010 I'd like to be all "googly" using all the features and what not but it's just too much to take in (should of just jumped on the wagon when it all started :) ) It kinda makes me feel like it's to late and i don't really understand how everything works together or where to start really.. So much "crap" coming out all the time it's hard to keep up with all the new stuff ... I'd say the main obstacle is having my current email account rooted into everything i do already, i've had a hotmail account for 8+ years and it's rooted into everything i do, all the forums, sites, facebook, work, msn etc... Just the thought of changing all of that from my old email to a gmail account and getting all my contacts my new email and such would take a hell of alot of work.. Your all thinking i should just get my hotmail to rerout my emails and such to a gmail account but that doesnt make sense to me (more like it annoys me) I like to keep things clean and simple one email for everything, everything goes directly to one place everywhere ive signed up is under one email (does this make sense to anyone? yes i know its all in my head and i should just deal with it but just thinking of what it implys makes my head want to explode! :) ) So to make matter worse i bought an android phone and i really like it but i ain't even close to making use of 30% of the phones potential which also annoys me and makes me wish i never bought it and just stayed ignorant... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toxic-hero Posted June 12, 2010 Report Share Posted June 12, 2010 ...and what happens if theres no signal and I cant go online from the handset? It would mean I cant use basic functions on my phone... not true! you can easily use your phone offline since all your stuff is backed up on the device. you just can't send & receive mail if you're offline. i also think that you exaggerate about "the useless android phones" and "google marketing machinery". it's just a different approach/philosophy to smart phones (a good one if you ask me). you may not like it, of course, but saying android's crap and not knowing basic facts about it (such as offline experience) is really over exaggerating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest semmtexx Posted June 27, 2010 Report Share Posted June 27, 2010 What do you do if you cant stand useless touchscreens but still want a top spec smartphone? Umm it's called tough s***. Basically, "top spec" phones are getting away from physical buttons altogether. And how can you go from a samsung omnia to an x10 and be "not impressed"? I went from an i910 to the HTC eris and I'll NEVER go back to lame ass user-unfriendly winmo EVER again. as for windows phone 7 and Kin...NOT IMPRESSED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Carpet3 Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 Samsung Galaxy S Pro (if rumours are to be believed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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