Guest friedgoldmole Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Hi, Had my Vega for 3 days now and in most ways I am really happy with it. For the price I don't have a problem with the viewing angles, and its very snappy. The software still needs some work (the Modaco rom is the main reason I took the plunge and bought one), but Android is definitely a more than capable tablet OS based on my experiences so far. My biggest issue is hardware related. Lots of people have mentioned the dreaded multiple keypress issue and I think this relates to the quality of the capacitive touch screen. On my unit the touch sensor seems to have problems detecting a finger tip touch in certain areas of the screen, if you place more of your finger on the screen or use a thumb then it seem to work better. My Vega seems to exhibit the issue the most towards the bottom of the screen (landscape with camera at the top). The effect of this is most pronounced on the keyboard, for example when I press delete near the top of the key it will often register that I pressed the L key, however if I turn the screen round 180 the keyboard works as expected. This also seems to manifest itself as random link presses when slowly swipe scrolling down a webpage. I have made a quick video to demonstrate this issue http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViJ_8d3TlUs , and wondered if other people could download the Multi touch visualiser and see if your Vega has similar problems. If everyone is having the same issue I might as well get a refund rather than a replacement, but I'm hoping I don't have to as apart from this touch screen issue I can't really fault it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest woutxz Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Very interesting, thanks for pointing to this app. I only seem to have multitouch issues when the tablet is plugged in. On battery everything is fine. I just ran Multitouch Visualizer which shows a very jittery cursor when plugged in, but a very steady one when unplugged. My screen seems oKay everywhere though. I don't have a dead zone near the bottom like you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Checkov Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 (edited) I've had the same issue, I thought it was just me. I am interested to see if many others experience the same. EDIT: I've just checked with multitouch Visualizer, got no dead zone but do see accidental random link presses. Probably just me... ;) :P Edited December 3, 2010 by Checkov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MarkoUK Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Very interesting, thanks for pointing to this app. I only seem to have multitouch issues when the tablet is plugged in. On battery everything is fine. I just ran Multitouch Visualizer which shows a very jittery cursor when plugged in, but a very steady one when unplugged. My screen seems oKay everywhere though. I don't have a dead zone near the bottom like you do. I noticed the same problem when plugged in. Some interference causing weird touch input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest debs626 Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 (edited) Very interesting, thanks for pointing to this app. I only seem to have multitouch issues when the tablet is plugged in. On battery everything is fine. I just ran Multitouch Visualizer which shows a very jittery cursor when plugged in, but a very steady one when unplugged. My screen seems oKay everywhere though. I don't have a dead zone near the bottom like you do. Re Multi-touch issue whilst plugged in - I've just had my first experience of this, I've never used my vega whilst its been on charge b4 until now and I get the same issue. I'll test with the Multi-touch Visualizer and report back Advent Vega need to be made aware of this Ran the test and all seems fine until I plugged the charger back in and it was a little jittery, no dead zones near the bottom tho Edited December 3, 2010 by debs626 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest removed-14 Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Just tried mine with multitouch visualiser and I have no deadspots. Not tried with it connected to the mains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alfe Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Just ran the test... mine seems perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest friedgoldmole Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Just ran the test... mine seems perfect hmm looks like i need to get mine replaced then, that will be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Genieuk Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Mine seems fine too. No dead spots. Although I only get 2 multi-touch point, but that may be expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SilentMobius Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 No dead zones here. But I believe the cause of the multi-press on the keyboard if the failure to register a touch-off event, and I've been able to replicate this in multi-touch visualizer where I take my finger away and the touch point remains until I touch the screen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest danielj58 Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 If I remember correctly we had similar issues with the Acer Liquid when it was first released, including weird anomalies when on charge and dead zones around the screen edges, it was fixed within a few firmware upgrades. Probably worth holding on and making @AdventVega aware of it to see what they can make of it. I've no idea if it was a kernel or radio/firmware issue though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jon_Vega Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 no problems on mine either with or without power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 5c00ter Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 (edited) Wow, i never noticed this before until now. This is what i observed whilst using the app "multi touch visualiser 2": Without mains cable plugged in, running my finger around the border of the screen, no dead-zones detected. Slow movement with finger provides a smooth tracking experience. Holding my finger on screen provides a steady (no jitter) tracking cursor. Multi-touch with 2 fingers, behaves in similar fashion, smooth and no false readings. With mains cable plugged in, it's a different story. Tracking is still responsive, but get occasional deadzones, but is totally random. Holding my finger still in a single space, gives some weird feedback with the cursor, the only way to describe it, is like the cursor is "vibrating". If i hold my finger on the screen and repeatedly unplug and plug the mains in/out i can see the "vibrating" effect only occur with the mains plugged in. The cursor is stable (no vibrating effect) when the device is running on battery alone. Conclusion: For a smoother and more responsive experience, don't use the vega when it's charging. It seems there is some interference when on mains that affects the capacitive screen performance. Edited December 4, 2010 by 5c00ter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MECX Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 So this is 100% a hardware issue then? Might be a longshot but do the random touch events happen where that vega application launcher is at the bottom of the screen? Can you disable/remove this and try the test again? (Just thinking it might be grabbing focus and killing the touch events). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 5c00ter Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 Im using launchpro without the bottom launcher, so it doesn't look like it's a focus issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MECX Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 Was a longshot..... doesnt launcher pro just run over the default homescreen so the launcher is actually still running in the backgroud? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest japrichard Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 I have the problem of random added characters too whether plugged in or not. No probs with multi touch Visualizer. I think my Vega has to Go back. Really annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boney01 Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 I have just recieved unit from batch 5 Typing is near impossible. Delete key in particular. Always registers L and rather strangely H hey. I have installed Smartkeybaord Pro and run calibrate with no sucess. Is anyone else struggling with this or returned on this basis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest removed-14 Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Have you installed the Modaco ROM updates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rimoth Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 I have just recieved unit from batch 5 Typing is near impossible. Delete key in particular. Always registers L and rather strangely H hey. I have installed Smartkeybaord Pro and run calibrate with no sucess. Is anyone else struggling with this or returned on this basis? Is this with the unit plugged into the mains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boney01 Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Thank you for suggestions. I have added r4 and performance pack and tried with unit unpluged and have not seen any change. I will keep practising / perservering for a day or so and see if any improvement or bedding in? The strange thing is when i get random letter not adjacent to keys pressed so not a sensitivity thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest removed-14 Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Thank you for suggestions. I have added r4 and performance pack and tried with unit unpluged and have not seen any change. I will keep practising / perservering for a day or so and see if any improvement or bedding in? The strange thing is when i get random letter not adjacent to keys pressed so not a sensitivity thing. That is odd. There is an app called something like Multitouch Analyzer 2 which maps you touch screen as you use it. See how you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Thank you for suggestions. I have added r4 and performance pack and tried with unit unpluged and have not seen any change. I will keep practising / perservering for a day or so and see if any improvement or bedding in? The strange thing is when i get random letter not adjacent to keys pressed so not a sensitivity thing. Are you on the latest ROM (1.06.5)? P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boney01 Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 nope running 1.04 and r4 does 1.6 address this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boney01 Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 I have tried the touch Visualizer and similar to you tube video am getting dead zones to lower part of screen / right. hand corner in portrait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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