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[jt_mcg]

Gryphonic, on Jan 2 2011, 18:38, said:

With this method, what if something goes wrong? Before, you used clockwork to backup before flashing a new rom... if i understand this method correctly, there isn't that option. Would you have to reload clockwork with fastboot to restore a backup?

I would think you're correct in that you would need to reflash clockwork, or depending on how it went the stock hungarian fix, then clockwork then your backup.  

Something to possibly add, and I'll gladly edit this if I'm wrong, but if the partitioning and install go correctly it could also have effects if you decide to flash a different ROM afterward/in the future using the traditional clockwork method if the new ROM is larger than the repartitioned area for system.

edit: you are correct that clockwork is installed in the process

Edited by jt_mcg, 02 January 2011 - 06:59 PM.

[StevenHarperUK]

jt_mcg, on Jan 2 2011, 18:56, said:

I would think you're correct in that you would need to reflash clockwork, or depending on how it went the stock hungarian fix, then clockwork then your backup.  

Something to possibly add, and I'll gladly edit this if I'm wrong, but if the partitioning and install go correctly it could also have effects if you decide to flash a different ROM afterward/in the future using the traditional clockwork method.

edit: you are correct that clockwork is installed in the process

That's correct, the system partition has been reduced to 128MB - if your trying to flash a ROM which has a bigger system than 128MB its going to fail.

The only CURRENT way back is to do the TPT Hungarian.

However soon I hope we have a Set of partition_zte.mbn that set the partition to an array of sizes

This post is showing progress http://android.modac...-layout-change/

Edited by StevenHarperUK, 02 January 2011 - 07:11 PM.

[Victor von Zeppelin]

The link seems to be down. Mirror maybe? Preferably on Mediafire.... ( mainly as, very little wait time..or none, as it is.)

[StevenHarperUK]

Victor von Zeppelin, on Jan 2 2011, 19:24, said:

The link seems to be down. Mirror maybe? Preferably on Mediafire.... ( mainly as, very little wait time..or none, as it is.)

I see that too : Rapidshare is coming back with

Unassigned file limit of 10 downloads reached.

10 downloads!!!! they must be nuts

Can someone please re-upload (megashare?) - puts it in multi share sites all at once.

[isambard]

alternative mirror:

alternative mirror

this will be up temporarily hopefully somebody can mirror.

Edited by isambard, 02 January 2011 - 07:53 PM.

[oh!dougal]

Gryphonic, on Jan 2 2011, 18:38, said:

With this method, what if something goes wrong? Before, you used clockwork to backup before flashing a new rom... if i understand this method correctly, there isn't that option. Would you have to reload clockwork with fastboot to restore a backup? (and it it possible for this method to break something that isn't backed up by clockwork?)

Edit: Actually, it seems clockwork is installed. Maybe the install guide should add a backup stage?

I call this install method the Total Phone Transplant -- because it can change everything that we know to be changeable on the phone.

It changes the stuff that loads Android at boot time (which is how the program-storage-space is reallocated), as well as the contents of the usual /system and /data partitions.
And it also overwrites the recovery partition (where Clockwork lives).

So, if the install goes wrong, it probably goes VERY wrong.
To get out of deep do-do (not booting AND Clockwork not working), you need to do another TPT. Either with a new (and md5 checksum-checked) copy of the new image, or to go back to the old ways you'd do a TPT with (for now) the Hungarian update in the /sdcard/image folder.
Loading in that image gets you a Hungarian phone, just like it came out of the box. (Importantly with the partitions set back to standard.)
From there you'd need to re-install Clockwork (and perhaps again network-unlock your phone) before restoring your Nandroid backup.

BUT, if the install goes as it should, then you will have a whole new phone with the one install - including Seb's right-way-up Clockwork. A word of caution though - its probably best NOT to simply restore your old Nandroid into the new partitions (it might not fit -- depends on which rom you were running before). If you go through the Hungarian update and re-install Clockwork, then you can be sure that your old nandroid will fit.

"Predictions are always difficult - especially about the future."
I'm going to predict that there will soon be tools that will make these processes simpler.
And that more roms will take advantage of the TPT technique.

Edited by oh!dougal, 02 January 2011 - 07:54 PM.

[flibblesan]

isambard, on Jan 2 2011, 19:52, said:

alternative mirror:

alternative mirror

this will be up temporarily hopefully somebody can mirror.

Multiupload mirror: http://www.multiupload.com/AAMWK6YJUO

Multiupload is awesome and will grab a file from your own server and mirror it on several download sites. Try it

[Arr Too]

oh!dougal, on Jan 2 2011, 19:52, said:

So, if the install goes wrong, it probably goes VERY wrong.
To get out of deep do-do (not booting AND Clockwork not working), you need to do another TPT. Either with a new (and md5 checksum-checked) copy of the new image, or to go back to the old ways you'd do a TPT with (for now) the Hungarian update in the /sdcard/image folder.

The problem here is that this forum is being used by people with many different variants of the Blade.  We don't know for sure that the 'safe' (original) update.zip won't actually irrevocably break certain models -- although I think we'd bet a good of deal of money on it breaking the V880.  To recover such a phone you're probably going to need an update.zip that is specific to that model, assuming the phone still works in this mode (which I suspect would be quite likely really).

Until we have an update.zip for each model this method cannot really be recommended to everyone without very large and very clear warnings.  We know that, so far, the ClockworkMod method is much safer, more universal and more recoverable.

[oh!dougal]

Arr Too, on Jan 2 2011, 20:10, said:

The problem here is that this forum is being used by people with many different variants of the Blade.  We don't know for sure that the 'safe' (original) update.zip won't actually irrevocably break certain models -- although I think we'd bet a good of deal of money on it breaking the V880.  To recover such a phone you're probably going to need an update.zip that is specific to that model, assuming the phone still works in this mode (which I suspect would be quite likely really).

Until we have an update.zip for each model this method cannot really be recommended to everyone without very large and very clear warnings.  We know that, so far, the ClockworkMod method is much safer, more universal and more recoverable.

Yes, this is for 'mainstream' Blades only at this point.
I wouldn't dream of suggesting this for a V880/003Z.

But, with the exception of the Finnish 5mp (and maybe its compass), it does seem as though all the rest are 'software-compatible' at the system level.
Personally, I'd expect (but not guarantee) that the TPT install would work on the Finnish phone -- but Volcano r2's kernel doesn't work the 5mp camera, so why bother? (And I see no indication that doing a Hungarian-update-restore, followed by the flashing of a 5mp-supporting kernel would not give a working camera. No guarantees though!)

[StevenHarperUK]

Arr Too, on Jan 2 2011, 20:10, said:

The problem here is that this forum is being used by people with many different variants of the Blade.  We don't know for sure that the 'safe' (original) update.zip won't actually irrevocably break certain models -- although I think we'd bet a good of deal of money on it breaking the V880.  To recover such a phone you're probably going to need an update.zip that is specific to that model, assuming the phone still works in this mode (which I suspect would be quite likely really).

Until we have an update.zip for each model this method cannot really be recommended to everyone without very large and very clear warnings.  We know that, so far, the ClockworkMod method is much safer, more universal and more recoverable.

I have added even more warning in the TPT section

http://android.modac...and-other-roms/

Best to be safe

[isambard]

flibblesan, on Jan 2 2011, 21:09, said:

Multiupload mirror: http://www.multiupload.com/AAMWK6YJUO

Multiupload is awesome and will grab a file from your own server and mirror it on several download sites. Try it

thanks! for the tip.

by request, i have a beta version which added the phone.apk and settings.apk to enable wifi/usb tethering. if anyone wants to help test, you can grab it here:

http://www.multiupload.com/0NEQWPPNMQ

changes in 0.3b

- BETA version for testing only
- use phone.apk with usim and nag remover fixes
- use settings.apk and settings.provider.apk for tethering
- make links to busybox for nicer adb shell sessings (interesting for developers only)

[isambard]

StevenHarperUK, on Jan 2 2011, 21:37, said:

I have added even more warning in the TPT section

http://android.modac...and-other-roms/

Best to be safe

i have a swiss OK phone, so you can also add that to the volcano compatibility list.

[flibblesan]

This is one of the most exciting developments for the blade so far. But I'm going to wait for more people to confirm this works before I look at re-partitioning my phone

[isambard]

flibblesan, on Jan 2 2011, 22:04, said:

This is one of the most exciting developments for the blade so far. But I'm going to wait for more people to confirm this works before I look at re-partitioning my phone

i hope you jump in soon! i think this method is very safe and easy - and it would be good to have someone with more experience working on it!

i tried to get tethering to work. it seems that usb tethering works ok (not tested extensively) but wifi tethering isn't quite working yet...

[isambard]

if you installed this rom successfully, could you please post a message on here. i think between the new method and all the scary messages, people are being frightened away from trying it!  

[isambard]

if you installed this rom successfully, could you please post a message on here. i think between the new method and all the scary messages, people are being frightened away from trying it!  

[donkey523]

isambard, on Jan 2 2011, 22:18, said:

if you installed this rom successfully, could you please post a message on here. i think between the new method and all the scary messages, people are being frightened away from trying it!  

isambard
Ive just used it on my uk oled sf and everything has gone ok

Thanks

[Gryphonic]

Triple Post!?

I think the issue is more that if it does go wrong, there needs to be a way to reverse it that definitely works, for all variants of the Blade. No matter how many success stories there are, theres always the chance.

Is it possible (its probably obvious i'm a noob at this) for people with stock phones to take a TPT image (right term?) of their phones, and have one of these for as many variants of the device as possible in the first post of the thread, so it would be easy for people to revert.

Alternatively a guide for taking an image of your phone as a backup, before flashing the new rom would be great. (sorry if i'm stating the bloody obvious here - tell me to shut up if i am )

I assure you i'm not normally against taking a risk, i just like to know how to recover if it goes wrong, and in this case, i wouldn't know how. As it's such an easy process, this will tempt first-timers even more than the rest of us, and those are the people who will have the most difficulty if it goes wrong.

[jt_mcg]

isambard, on Jan 2 2011, 21:09, said:

i hope you jump in soon! i think this method is very safe and easy - and it would be good to have someone with more experience working on it!

i tried to get tethering to work. it seems that usb tethering works ok (not tested extensively) but wifi tethering isn't quite working yet...

Wi Fi Tethering info,

I haven't been able to take the time and open with apktool but here's the info from KK:

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IMPORTANT! The themes likely needs to be updated to support RLS3 or they will disable Wifi hotspot and usb tethering through wifi. Usb tethering over through mobile data should still work though.Frankish! The file that is chaned in framework-res.apk is res/values/arrays.xml. You can propably just get the whole resources.rsc from my framework-res.apk and put it into your framework-res.apk files. Just remeber to NOT use compression on the resources.rsc. Use WinRAR and choose "Store" when you add it.

and also this from KK:

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Do you use apktool?

If you are, then to this:
- Unpack both framework-res.apk into the same folder, rename "mine" to framework-res-jj.apk
- Disassemble both frameworks:
apktool d framework-res.apk
apktool d framework-res-jj.apk
- Copy framework-res-jj\res\values\arrays.xml to framework-res\res\values\arrays.xml
- Recompile "your" framework-res:
apktool b framework-res
- Open your original framework-res.apk with WinRAR.
- Copy framework-res\build\apk\resources.rsc to your original framework-res.apk, choose "Store" and verify that size and compressed size is the same when you are done.
- Done. No need to resign anything.

I took a chance and flashed the JJ RLS3 theme from Frankish and the theme alone enabled WiFi hotspot on Seb's ROM without replacing phone/settings or anythingelse.apk!.

edit: I'd ask Frankish if making the changes as described worked for the themes or if he infact used a slightly different method

Edited by jt_mcg, 02 January 2011 - 09:46 PM.

[jt_mcg]

Gryphonic, on Jan 2 2011, 21:37, said:

Triple Post!?

I think the issue is more that if it does go wrong, there needs to be a way to reverse it that definitely works, for all variants of the Blade. No matter how many success stories there are, theres always the chance.

Is it possible (its probably obvious i'm a noob at this) for people with stock phones to take a TPT image (right term?) of their phones, and have one of these for as many variants of the device as possible in the first post of the thread, so it would be easy for people to revert.

Alternatively a guide for taking an image of your phone as a backup, before flashing the new rom would be great. (sorry if i'm stating the bloody obvious here - tell me to shut up if i am )

I assure you i'm not normally against taking a risk, i just like to know how to recover if it goes wrong, and in this case, i wouldn't know how. As it's such an easy process, this will tempt first-timers even more than the rest of us, and those are the people who will have the most difficulty if it goes wrong.

It could be possible, as long as the phone has the three key update/install method from sd /image that it could be packaged for a tpt to stock for any blade variant and firmware.

Does anybody know what this button combination does when there's no /image