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hi guys im new to the defy coming from a g1, t mobile pulse,zte blade(now maybe for sale )...just wondered whats the story on the phone is android 2.2 available official or not?..any bugs? ...can you use flash player 10? .....how mutch can you custom it? .......can you take motoblur away and use adw ex ...and is it possible to theme the rom eg install honybread or any othe themes to framework


thanks in advance just want to get started ....

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Should come out this spring with flash 10 on it from what I have read.

I have tried a de-motoblurred rom & TBH, there's usually menus still there for you to try setting up motoblur but ofcourse it won't work... I think in the same one I tried getting into "Accounts" (for my gmail setup) & it just dumped me back to where I was. So I think I prefer the leaked UK Froyo motoblur, I don't like seeing menus that are there but don't function properly. I think motoblur is quite useful 'cos if it's lost or stolen you can log in to it & remote wipe (only the phone, not SD card).

There are tiny bugs in Froyo (leaked) like colour markers in calendar are gone (the numbers are still bold) making it look empty when it's not.
Sometimes the homescreen profile changer will loose all the icons, but switch profiles they come back. Had YouTube unresponsive 'til I reboot.

On 2.1 I had screen freezing issues but they're gone in Froyo. Overall it's much more improved over 2.1 with only one or two VERY minor things which are nothing really. I really love this phone since upgrading to Froyo :D

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+1 to the Op,
Also coming from the Blade!

Any info till my defy comes from my Ebay seller will keep me happy!!!
Thanks :D :D :( ;) B)

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If you want to root / hack it you want RSD Lite & the moto drivers for PC, these will help when you (I) brick it lol :D

Word of caution, don't think you can download from Froyo to Eclair, well it may be possible but that is more technical / involve more risk etc...

But most people want [at least] Froyo anyway, sooo, check all the forums you can there are custom roms & what not.

I'm no dev but it's like a nagging itch eventually you will root / custom rom / overclock it, whatever.


On Eclair it was possible to use z4root & clockwork mod recovery to root & install custom roms (nandroid backup / recoveries) on your SD card, but doesn't seem to work on my Froyo build, so RSD Lite it is for flashing, & SuperOneClick for rooting (all on PC).

I think there is a new app on market that lets you backup & restore roms on your card but I forgot what it's called.

Just read here & other android forums before you go at it aye!

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I'm no dev but it's like a nagging itch eventually you will root / custom rom / overclock it, whatever.


LOL, so true, I have had a Defy for 3 days now and already am thinking about rooting etc etc. lol. I wasn't intending to but coming from a rooted Desire that I can do absolutely anything with, to a Defy that I can't do much with at all, it's a real "shock to the system".

I'm not rushing into it though, want to get it right first time, had major issues when rooting my Desire and got my knickers in a right old twist. LMAO

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LOL, so true, I have had a Defy for 3 days now and already am thinking about rooting etc etc. lol. I wasn't intending to but coming from a rooted Desire that I can do absolutely anything with, to a Defy that I can't do much with at all, it's a real "shock to the system".

I'm not rushing into it though, want to get it right first time, had major issues when rooting my Desire and got my knickers in a right old twist. LMAO

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same, came from a rooted desire and ended up rooting the defy on the first day. I only did it to get 2.2 though as I need it for my works email app.

Whatever you do though, dont flash a rom like you would the desire if you want to try and keep your warranty. Motorola have it locked down good and unlike the desire you cant downgrade unless you do it in a certain way. I spent the full day reading through stuff trying to work it out but ive managed and ive tested downgrading and its all good :D

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So full adobe flash is possible on froyo(full vertion not lite) ? So far the phone is great apart from the power button feeling a bit loose..anyone can confirm this.

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So full adobe flash is possible on froyo(full vertion not lite) ? So far the phone is great apart from the power button feeling a bit loose..anyone can confirm this.


not sure on the froyo and flash, as much as I use mine for browsing I never really watch flash videos.

Yes my power button is loose too and my brothers. Seems its part of the design?

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not sure on the froyo and flash, as much as I use mine for browsing I never really watch flash videos.

Yes my power button is loose too and my brothers. Seems its part of the design?

Ok thanks I love the fact that out of the box it beats my zte blade...that is hacked up.

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Ok thanks I love the fact that out of the box it beats my zte blade...that is hacked up.


Well I'm amazed how much more refined the Defy is after my blade running ginger bread!
Have rooted and installed custom recovery on my 2.51.1 defy takes alot of hunting around to find the correct drivers, even needing to install a new .Net framework on my pc!.
Am I correct in thinking that any of the current froyo roms have bugs still? Seems alot of folk are saying so.......?

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Well I'm amazed how much more refined the Defy is after my blade running ginger bread!
Have rooted and installed custom recovery on my 2.51.1 defy takes alot of hunting around to find the correct drivers, even needing to install a new .Net framework on my pc!.
Am I correct in thinking that any of the current froyo roms have bugs still? Seems alot of folk are saying so.......?

im yet to experience one with 3.4.3-11

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im yet to experience one with 3.4.3-11


Very tempted to go froyo, which version of eclair did you upgrade from?

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Very tempted to go froyo, which version of eclair did you upgrade from?


2.51. Just make sure you dont directly flash if you want to be able to downgrade in the future

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2.51. Just make sure you dont directly flash if you want to be able to downgrade in the future

so can you add a link to the best froyo rom available ....and what bugs are on it ....

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so can you add a link to the best froyo rom available ....and what bugs are on it ....


ive come the pulse and blade as well!!

you'll find the development isnt as interesting because it has a locked bootloader meaning we can edit the kernel.
however their is a froyo update thats official us update but we had leaks b4 then
you can edit the framework and make it look how u want
can use flash and works lovley
and yeah you can just adw to hide blur or you can custom rom it to remove blur in total which is much better

their isnt as much to do as with the blade and pulse however it is a much much better phone and theirs nothing ive found it cant handel

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So any ROM for 2.51 will work for 2.51.1?
As this is where I'm getting a bit confused! Or do you think it's worth waiting for the official froyo update?

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So any ROM for 2.51 will work for 2.51.1?
As this is where I'm getting a bit confused! Or do you think it's worth waiting for the official froyo update?

im as confuse as you there seem to be so much to it eg all i am used to is 1.5,2.0,2.1,2.2,2.3. so what is this 2.51,2.51.1 business.

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im as confuse as you there seem to be so much to it eg all i am used to is 1.5,2.0,2.1,2.2,2.3. so what is this 2.51,2.51.1 business.



now that i can answer!
2.51 and 2.51.1 are build numbers not versions of android. tho i cant clarify further as to what this does!

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oo so what build number goes with what froyo...

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oo so what build number goes with what froyo...


Exactly where i'm getting confused!

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