Guest glossywhite Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 (edited) Hi there. I am looking to buy one of the following: 1/ Orange San Francisco 2 (Orange for £99 + £10 topup required) 2/ Sony Ericsson Live with Walkman (UK Three network for £99 + £10 topup required) It seems the SF 2 has a better screen but a slower processor. It also cannot record in HD. Does anyone here have *hands on* experience with one, the other or BOTH? Thanks chaps and girlies! Edited December 4, 2011 by glossywhite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hecatae Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 take the live with wakman it's guaranteed ics by sony. I'l give you a review of it in a few days, just getting mine unlocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest glossywhite Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Just bought the Sony Ericsson "Live with WalkMan", and SO glad I did... it's super!! Thanks for the advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest unrandomsam Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 The extra money for either Xperia mini pro or Xperia Play I think would be worth it (Hardware keyboard / Better screen) Bootloader unlock should work with this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285285 (For any carrier locked 2011 xperia's - If it is sim free you can use the official way). Or if you want to keep the DRM keys then use this method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest unrandomsam Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 You will have to find the testpoint though. (Probably a jpg of it somewhere). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest unrandomsam Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 (edited) ** edit wrong ** Edited December 5, 2011 by unrandomsam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest glossywhite Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 http://bayimg.com/PALCAaaDe Think this is the right testpoint. (Presuming its ST17) That is not my phone... and what is ST17 please? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest unrandomsam Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 (edited) That is not my phone... and what is ST17 please? Thanks I thought it was the mainboard for the Xperia with walkman but the live with walkman is actually WT19 You will have to find a copy of the setool software and look in the docs folder and find the right jpg for the testpoint. There is probably only about 10 should be easy enough to find. (Make sure you do find the right one though - if the board looks the same other than the case it will be right). You might have to take the label off (If someone uses setool or omnius to do it they need to do the same thing). There is no other way around it if you want to be able to fastboot / use CWM etc (If you get a code then it won't unlock the bootloader only the simlock). http://imageshack.us...s/254/wt19.jpg/ "Hint: To identify the TP pad, use simple voltmeter, should have 1.8V to ground. Also, in all models i have seen it was the third pad from GND, in the same row. GND pad can be verified easily with an ohm-meter, but use higher ranges (>20kOhm) not to damage other pins." If you just want rid of the simlock you can just buy a code. Edited December 5, 2011 by unrandomsam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest glossywhite Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h14D1X5LpK0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest unrandomsam Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Only half root. no insecure adb. You can hack it by building a copy of adbd with the part that checks the ro.secure flag out #if 0 #end if then using the fact that /etc/install-recovery.sh is executed kill adbd and restart it as root. (Paul's apk makes loads of stuff suid root which is not a good plan, you could kang the adbd from it though suppose). Much better to unlock the bootloader really is. (I lived with this method for about a week). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest glossywhite Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 (edited) Only half root. no insecure adb. You can hack it by building a copy of adbd with the part that checks the ro.secure flag out #if 0 #end if then using the fact that /etc/install-recovery.sh is executed kill adbd and restart it as root. (Paul's apk makes loads of stuff suid root which is not a good plan, you could kang the adbd from it though suppose). Much better to unlock the bootloader really is. (I lived with this method for about a week). Okay :) Is bootloader unlocking permanent? Can I still update my 'phone with the companion software, to keep it up to date, and have the bootloader remain unlocked? To be honest, I'm more interested in unlocking the SIMlock, not the bootloader, right now. PS: a more elegant solution than peeling back the label, would be to find out exactly where the test point is located, and push the point of a pin through the label, so that it pierces it and makes contact with the test point. I know most people are too lazy to do this, but I like my kit *pristine* :P Edited December 5, 2011 by glossywhite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hecatae Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 wt19i latest stock rom is : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343529 can be flashed with flash tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351309 the xperia mini pro has a smaller screen than the live with walkman, and also does not have XLOUD, Live with Walkman can also take 3d pictures and video, not seen that feature on either mini or mini pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hecatae Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Okay :) Is bootloader unlocking permanent? Can I still update my 'phone with the companion software, to keep it up to date, and have the bootloader remain unlocked? To be honest, I'm more interested in unlocking the SIMlock, not the bootloader, right now. I unlocked the simlock using HTCCODE, they sponsor Modaco, they have a forum way down at the bottom of the forums. going to try this next after rooting, http://forum.xda-dev...d.php?t=1346190 edit an alternative unlock is jinx13 on xda, who owns a setool2 and charges £15 to do it remotely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest glossywhite Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I unlocked the simlock using HTCCODE, they sponsor Modaco, they have a forum way down at the bottom of the forums. $50? Someone's on drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest unrandomsam Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Okay :) Is bootloader unlocking permanent? Can I still update my 'phone with the companion software, to keep it up to date, and have the bootloader remain unlocked? To be honest, I'm more interested in unlocking the SIMlock, not the bootloader, right now. PS: a more elegant solution than peeling back the label, would be to find out exactly where the test point is located, and push the point of a pin through the label, so that it pierces it and makes contact with the test point. I know most people are too lazy to do this, but I like my kit *pristine* :P If you use this method you can (Sony doesn't update the bootloader with the updates and this one appears to Sony as locked even though it isn't its just patched to accept images via fastboot). As long as you get it right then it will be fine. (Get the wrong one and you can get it so you need to jtag). I am not bothered about anything other than the screen (Want the plain glass not a screen protector or the protective sheet that Sony Ericsson seems to use (Scratches the sheet far too easily). If you cannot see it I don't care I never sell phones on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest unrandomsam Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I unlocked the simlock using HTCCODE, they sponsor Modaco, they have a forum way down at the bottom of the forums. going to try this next after rooting, http://forum.xda-dev...d.php?t=1346190 edit an alternative unlock is jinx13 on xda, who owns a setool2 and charges £15 to do it remotely All the code unlocks either exploit the manufacturers servers or use stolen data from the manufacturer. (At least the LG and Samsung unlock client ones currently use an exploit). I think if I needed to use setool I would buy one (From ipmart) with the credits don't mind paying the creators of software but not middlemen. Think I would rather pay the network if that was the only legit option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest unrandomsam Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 wt19i latest stock rom is : http://forum.xda-dev...d.php?t=1343529 can be flashed with flash tool: http://forum.xda-dev...d.php?t=1351309 the xperia mini pro has a smaller screen than the live with walkman, and also does not have XLOUD, Live with Walkman can also take 3d pictures and video, not seen that feature on either mini or mini pro I thought Xloud was a standard feature with all 2.3.4 xperia rom's (even if its not then it should be fairly easy to add - I added Bravia to mine pretty easily.) They use the same image pretty much if the files are there the feature works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest unrandomsam Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Have you any stuff in /system/vendor ? (I have it totally empty because I bought sim free, wouldn't mind knowing the file structure so I can put some stuff in there.) Or I guess I could put the dalvik-cache there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest unrandomsam Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Also does your phone support flac (Think it might as its associated with the stock music player on my xperia play but the files aren't there). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hecatae Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 All the code unlocks either exploit the manufacturers servers or use stolen data from the manufacturer. (At least the LG and Samsung unlock client ones currently use an exploit). I think if I needed to use setool I would buy one (From ipmart) with the credits don't mind paying the creators of software but not middlemen. Think I would rather pay the network if that was the only legit option. setool3 is £90 from what i can see. i used s1 tool unlock to exploit manufacturers server, htccode are also known as totalgsm, and they have been unlocking and debranding sony ericssons since 2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest glossywhite Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 setool3 is £90 from what i can see. i used s1 tool unlock to exploit manufacturers server, htccode are also known as totalgsm, and they have been unlocking and debranding sony ericssons since 2003 Sorry, you're talking in Chinese. Would you mind explaining all these acronyms and codenames? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hecatae Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Sorry, you're talking in Chinese. Would you mind explaining all these acronyms and codenames? :P sorry glossywhite, was speaking to unrandomsam, do you want me to start with zulea or the_laser? Live with Walkman testpoint is here http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/254/wt19.jpg/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest glossywhite Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I tell you what... let's not continue this baffling conversation. I am gonna order an unlock code from Three themselves, tomorrow. Simple :P Thanks for trying guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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