Real world is what I care about - my real world. If pics look great on my phone and great on my 27" iMac i'm happy. Low light performance IS important to me, I think the Zoe mode is going to be a godsend for me as i'm always snapping Lucie and missing the exact right shot - this should fix that. The camera on the one is as much about software as hardware.
Yeah, Real world..... screen use/phone use snaps that are sharp and not blurry. i'd be happy with that. I can see the benefits of Zoe already, like you, kids move to damn fast to get the right shot.
I was trying to make the point that people expect perfect shots with their phone's in conditions that you'd struggle to get with a dSLR and a f1.8 lens. Expectations really need to be lowered.
The N4 is artificially underpriced - that's all there is to it. But... nicer construction, better camera, newer / faster CPU, 32GB / 64GB on board, 1080P great screen... you pays your money...
Artificially under-priced, yes. But that's the realism of where we are and it will no doubt be the same if Google release the "X" phone or the next Nexus. Google have changed the pricing landscape with all Nexus devices and against the HTC One, I really don't think I can justify almost double the price for no way twice the phone. (in my opinion)
Its nothing against HTC and their hardware/device, it will be the same with the Galaxy S4, no doubt another £500 phone as well as the Xperia Z.
Maybe I just need to stop being a tight-ass.